Nyzul Isle question

[Ianpier]

Maybe we re just amazingly unlucky lol, tho the 2/25 was just with either a th3 or with a /THF TH from the SAM now and then. I want for sure to get a new THF for static at least TH3 i guess.

so from what you guys think its way smarter to focus on getting the disk back to 100 and not really focus on farming bosses till we can have some kind of TH or at least /THF again. I was asking cuz we had such a terrible luck w/ TH3 too that i was wondering how bad it could be w/o lol.

Also does anyone else had a terrible luck with Askar set? we've had all drops on each floor even on 100 on my old disk, but only askar piece i've seen was askar legs compared to at least 2-3 of each other on my old group. new group like i mentioned just had 1 Golliard and 1 Denali feet. for now <.<¡. lol

[Kainstryder]

It's random, unless my group's theory of the game bases the drop on jobs able to wear that gear present is true. It'd explain why Goliard was so rare for us with 1/6 able to use and why we were flooded w/ Askar/Denali on near every floor till 80. Now it's Askar/Goliard.

If you're refarming to 100, you should look into the warp trick to save yourself the hassle of losing your disc each time.

[Ianpier]

we were doing the warp trick, i was the disk holder and i was getting warped when it was about to die, but due to a dumb moment on 1 run where we had less than 1 min when we got to the floor 100 the SAM and the other WAR raped khim before i could get out <.<¡. lol

[wintersquall]

we're doing our first 100 run tonight, but we're VERY prepared - because i forced us to run our second disc up to 80 before we even start farming for headpieces.

that way, if what happened to you happens to us (i.e. warp gets interrupted somehow, someone waits too long to get out and a melee pops a WS for the kill) we're still set for farming without taking a few weeks off before we get up there again.

[Priphea]

we're doing our first 100 run tonight, but we're VERY prepared - because i forced us to run our second disc up to 80 before we even start farming for headpieces.

that way, if what happened to you happens to us (i.e. warp gets interrupted somehow, someone waits too long to get out and a melee pops a WS for the kill) we're still set for farming without taking a few weeks off before we get up there again.

If this happens, the other disc holder gets fucked for items. You may want to consider giving them priority for headpiece drops they want. This happened to me, when our BLU/NIN failed to warp out and obliterated a floor 100 boss --- luckily, Goliard head dropped on that Hydra, and I'd already obtained Vorpal Sword, so I'm not too torn up about it --- but be aware of it. Better to preserve your disc and lose one run than screw over your disc holders and have to climb for 20.

[wintersquall]

yeah, he's got first priority on askar head for that very reason, and since i'm the primary disc holder i'm going to make damn sure he gets it before my disc is wiped even if it costs us a few losses. on weapons, i made both our SAM mains discholders for this reason - when we take the first disc back to 100, we're both guaranteed windslicers (and 3 of my 6 have SAM 75).

as far as the one night spent climbing 81-100 when we inevitably wipe my disc... meh, we really enjoy doing nyzul lol so np there

but what i was saying is that it's going to be much easier and better for morale to have to climb 20 floors if an accident happens rather then 80... get your 2nd discs up before you tackle 100, you're gonna need the coins anyway.

[Eticket]

We usually only kill the rampart if we need tp or it's in the way. I'd say overall on boss floors, my group is 20-30% on drops. Askar and Goliard are both pretty common.

20: 3 Askar, 3 Goliard, 1 Denali
40: 3 Goliard
60: 2 Askar

That doesn't include the first 20 Goliard drop that got lost due to a timeout. ><

We'll hopefully be hitting our first set of 80 fights tomorrow.

[wintersquall]

100 khim's petra sucks when you're trying to warp out via scroll... doesn't help that he's so squishy either. BRING CLERICS FOR FLOOR 100!

yay dancing dagger and no headpiece >.>

[Eticket]

We did 3 40 fights on Monday. 2 no drops, 1 Goliard. That's 4 Goliard overall and 0 anything else. We gave it to a pickup blm we grabbed for the last tag because no one else wanted it. On a random note, on the drop fight we had no time to kill the rampart. It was also the only fight with no TH as the THF didn't macro anything in during the fight. lol 'weaponskills restricted' on the boss floor really threw off everything we usually did.

[OctavoGilgamesh]

It was also the only fight with no TH as the THF didn't macro anything in during the fight.

No TH because the THF didn't macro anything in during the fight?

Do you mean you only had TH2 because the thf didn't macro in knife or AA?

[Eticket]

It was also the only fight with no TH as the THF didn't macro anything in during the fight.

No TH because the THF didn't macro anything in during the fight?

Do you mean you only had TH2 because the thf didn't macro in knife or AA?

yeah that. lol

[wintersquall]

my two denali lotters (COR and THF) are about to mutiny because we haven't gotten a single denali drop in months... they're now going as far as suggesting it's because i don't have a denali job at 75 and i'm the one taking us in.

so they're trying to convince our secondary disc holder to come as NIN instead of SAM lol >.> and yes -i- know it's not gonna make a difference, but they don't know that.


gd SE and their dorp rates. someone post that has gotten drops on their disc that they can't wear, so i can feel better about yelling at them ; ;

[Midnightjade]

gd SE and their dorp rates. someone post that has gotten drops on their disc that they can't wear, so i can feel better about yelling at them ; ;

Our shellholder in KA had 5 jobs at 75, including tank (PLD, NIN) and melee (WAR, MNK, SAM) but no mage or support jobs. On his disc, on level 100 we were 3x Goliard Chapeaux, and no other hats.

Hope this helps. I have other examples, but this is the most obvious. I don't think job of discholder has a clear effect on anything except the weapon that drops, and even then it's only when the holder already has the key item i.e. they have taken the disc to 100 and cleared it.

[Wizerd]

gd SE and their dorp rates. someone post that has gotten drops on their disc that they can't wear, so i can feel better about yelling at them ; ;

Our shellholder had 5 jobs at 75, including tank (PLD, NIN) and melee (WAR, MNK, SAM) but no mage or support jobs. On his disc, on level 100 we were 3x Goliard Chapeaux, and no other hats.

Hope this helps. I have other examples, but this is the most obvious. I don't think job of discholder has a clear effect on anything except the weapon that drops, and even then it's only when the holder already has the key item i.e. they have taken the disc to 100 and cleared it.

Pardon my ignorance, but I thought the head piece was 0% drop if you did the warp trick, and 100% drop (for one of the three) if you did clear your disc? Is it simply just a chance, same as the other floors, with the warp trick?

[Midnightjade]

Pardon my ignorance, but I thought the head piece was 0% drop if you did the warp trick, and 100% drop (for one of the three) if you did clear your disc? Is it simply just a chance, same as the other floors, with the warp trick?

Sure, np. It's 100% with the clear, and a percent chance with the warp trick. Not sure what the base % is, or to what extent it's influenced by TH. Other folks might have a better idea of the exact numbers. ^^

[Loren]

gd SE and their dorp rates. someone post that has gotten drops on their disc that they can't wear, so i can feel better about yelling at them ; ;

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My group trashed 4 Askar Korazins from my disc (see jobs in sig).

[wintersquall]

if DH warps, head is same chance of dropping as a piece on any other floor. if DH stays and resets disc, first time through head is 100% drop, random one of the three sets.

on second runthrough (with runic key item), i believe head and weapon are set to match job of DH when entering ruins on 96 - i.e. a SAM doing 100 on his disc for second time would always get windslicer and askar, whether they warp or not - if they warp it's not 100% though.

correct me if i'm wrong.

[Midnightjade]

if DH warps, head is same chance of dropping as a piece on any other floor. if DH stays and resets disc, first time through head is 100% drop, random one of the three sets.

on second runthrough (with runic key item), i believe head and weapon are set to match job of DH when entering ruins on 96 - i.e. a SAM doing 100 on his disc for second time would always get windslicer and askar, whether they warp or not - if they warp it's not 100% though.

correct me if i'm wrong.

Agreed that the weapon is set to job of discholder if they have the key item, but I'm not so sure about the hat. We have had a Chapeau drop when our DH warped out as NIN - as I mentioned above, he had no mage or support jobs leveled. I dug around for the screenie - it's in this group, towards the bottom:

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[wintersquall]

hmm, so if your DH has the runic key item, then the hat must only be set to their job if they wipe disc for second time. the weapon will always be for their job though.

makes sense, i honestly couldn't remember and we haven't gotten a drop on 100 yet other than a dancing dagger.


and thanks for those examples above guys, i posted them on my LS forum and that should quell the denali uprising lmao

[Eticket]

Finally farmed 80 a bit. 3 runs, 3 drops. 2 Denali, 1 Goliard.