[All Servers] Atani (BC)

[Airenn]

Psh, he wishes! However, we should go to Disney or Halloween Horror Nights if you could ever come down. I haven't been back to HHN since I turned 21. :/ I can finally get shots from the hot chicks on wheels!

[dipset975]

damn guys wheres the love? lol this is brotha btw.
Mars told me to respond, trust me id much rather not deal with this. Hopefully i can fill in a few blanks here.
Well..... on the subject of the us apparently bailing on the ls. If a shell isnt doing anything and none of the leaders aren't trying to make a difference. Thats pretty much what it boiled down to. I made several suggestions but no one listened. What put me over the edge though, was when we had about 3 qualified apps on the forums. We were understandably low on people. Yall said no to every single 1 then go and pearl lunitik a week later. I dont think i need to give any explanation here as to why this is a dumb move.

Yea the ls died when limbus did period. That was the only event that you could count on people to show up to. Lady was perfect for planning it and she made sure we had the right jobs. That was all ppl cared about at the end.

The common excuse i see here is "your were never even online/didn't show up to events". Well sorry that wont work on me. I remember when we weren't doing anything at all for those 2 months then lady leaks out that she was leaving. Then next 10 days we did something every night if it wasnt limbus i planned it. You wont believe that i dont expect you to, ask lady though if you don't believe me.

All in all though if ppl dont care enough to show up to events and the leaders wont do anything to fix that. How can you say the ls can be fixed?

Also I never liked the way Vinns ran shit. I personally told him the very night before we tried that new lotting for limbus gear not to do it. Nope, stubborn vinns isn't gonna listen. The biggest problem i had though with him was the way he decided to distribute gear. When heca head dropped off faf he said in ls chat "who wants heca head?" like 5 ppl say / in chat. He tells everyone to lot. Ok whatever right, but the next night the same thing happens. This time though 2 more people who weren't at faf the night before are there. He tells everyone to lot. I mean wheres the fucking order in that? He also played favorites way too much. I mean he pretty much gave ig whatever he wanted. Nothing against ig he deserved everything he got. Although why are we letting 1 job E Body wars lot osodes over our bards and rangers? Pretty dumb eh? The ridill was the biggest fuck up i dont need to go into detail there You dont go making last minute changes to a ridill lot order PERIOD!!. Ok i wanna touch on this also. I wasnt at kirin the first night W legs dropped but w/e you can still use logic. Before the kirin 2 ppl are lotting w legs after it 3? Again nothing against Izzu but heres my point he said izzu had been in the ls since the beginning. Thats fine but izzu also was pushed in front of shadow for ridill. Izzu had a 6 month break while shadow was here yet is pushed in front of him for ridill? Still though lets pretend that its still right. Then in effect shouldnt izzu move up on dalmy also?........Oh no vinns would never let that happen cause guess who's number 1? Which he also hadn't been 75 rdm that long. So only show the same face when it doesn't hurt you huh? Another incident was when panda was put ahead of tarutomo for everything in sea that they wanted. Again they had both been in the ls forever panda took a long break. Ru took a little break but not as long as panda yet. Yet Ru's not even on the same tier as him. No order whatsoever.

You were another 1 that didnt want to listen to reason ever jud. You argued so heavily against me on the vrtra fight right? When i said we needed more firepower for and more bodies. Yea your plans for it worked flawlessly didn't they?

On the subject of Eyuni though yes not giving gear back isnt cool if in fact this is true. I actually had her osode for a few months.I gave it back to her about a month and a half ago. Yes, the agreement for eyuni getting a relic was for her to pass everything else but that didnt happen. This wasnt even decided by the ls this was decided by the officers. I never would have agreed to it. Yes it didnt last long. I remember when ski asked in ls chat does anyone mind eyuni lotting homam and just hearing the groans on vent. The bit with the homam body did happen.I was the person that was up for the body also. Vinns said for Eyuni and me to lot. So she goes and lots. Then after everyone said it wasnt eyuni on the character houran was told to pass. i actually waited a good 30 seconds for him to pass and he didnt. Then i decided to lot and luckily won. Eyuni didnt like being on red mage and voiced it. Then when red mage body drops she wants to lot it. Then when asked about it she said thats the only piece of gear she wouldn't pass on. She also had received pld legs a few weeks prior. I also specifically remember lotting against her for thf pants. You know though, this all stems back to poor leadership. In closing she was good on her jobs i wont deny that. I'd say her playtime is 50/50. Very nice person to be around should be a good addition to any ls. I personally liked her but im not gonna lie and say the events above didn't happen.


Please dont act like your 13 in a reply to this. Im not in the mood for crying.

[Airenn]

Random, delirious morning note to Zel:

Your English is gettin' better man. Keep it up.

[Judai]

This thread is going to just blow up with all the shit that wasn't said when peole bailed on the LS and it broke down. Obviously the people who jumped servers didn't see it as bailing. They all stopped logging in a good month before it finally broke and that's why we didnt do shit. Brotha will say it died cause he was about to be kicked anyways for being stupid as fuck.

Brotha is a fucking moron btw take his words with a grain of salt. Sorry Brotha, I don't listen to morons and maybe you should learn to take some advice on how to pull Dynamis from people who had been running it far longer then you. Oh wait, no you just wanted to suck ass. Learn to pull and do your own shit before you spout out ideas. Please Brotha, don't speak to me, your intelligence isn't high enough to comprehend half the shit I say. Airenn drew up the plans for TP Burn Vrtra and I added advice. If everyone showed up instead of bailing it would have been fine but Knolan and Airenn stopped coming after the first wipe(renn might have come once more) when some retard flailed us. Please try to remember events accurately before posting. I also argued the fact that we could try and work on the strat.(TPburning Vrtra to 30% with like 20 people and only one Mkris DRK is pretty damn good imo btw, the problem was not the strat but merely executing it properly. ie invite the fucking BRDs faster, invite the fucking CS stunner before we fucking engage...)

Izzu had been in the LS at least 6 months longer then Airenn, not to forget any previous ties with members from before the LS. Izzu's break was because they fucking moved to HK or w/e for 2 months btw and they still played during that time, just at odd hours. I said I didn't agree with the Wlegs call but none of the leaders backed me and the LS didn't say shit to Vinns either. If you were so pissed about it, speak up you fucking twit. It's the same thing as Knolan trying to pull the, who long were you in the LS bit to me earlier in the thread. Shadow didn't do much for the LS btw, so yes Izzu should have moved up on Ridill. All Shadow did was bitch and complain and act emo and was also about to be kicked because he wouldn't stop crying over shit regardless of sacks asking him to chill.. You really need to understand the background of the events you speak of.

Plain and Simple. It died when you guys and others stopped caring and stopped showing and stopped logging on, then a month later it was broken so Vinns/Sars could take the 20m bank.

I realize I said I was done posting but when the dumbest mother fucker on the planet Brothabrew decided to call me out on shit I had to post.

btw Zelphes, don't forget to mention you weren't even in the LS for awhile at the time and when you came back you put yourself ahead of Eyuni on some of those items and that's part of what caused her and others to split off and form Ackz. For everyone else, Zelphes led Valour, Ackz was created by a groupd of people who hated Zelphes and wanted out of Valour. She didn't merely run away with Valour items, the shell split.

Mars, my point was simple. Knolan and Airenn have been hounding on her and making shit up that wasn't true.(see amount of gil, trying to get lsbank, forcing ppl to upgrade relic, etc) Knolan is trying to say Eyuni was a lootwhore when she wasn't and if she was, he was too. They are acting like she caused some massive amount of drama when in the end Airenn caused the huge amount of drama and was a big reason everyone fought at the end. You may not think so but other people's actions do in fact contribute to decisions made by others. Knolan and Airenn's and everyone else's actions in the LS are a relevent topic when trying to defend Eyuni's own actions.

I like how Mars tried to call me on bringing up other events btw when that's all everyone else did as well. Now I'll try to take my leave of it since people just keep spouting bullshit and retarded sides of the story.

ps. Did I mention Brotha is quite possibly the dumbest mother fucker ever? I think I need to PM Ski to confirm this.

[shadow]

so wait a minute... I was told to chill by learders? Hmm, I dont seem to remeber being told anything in tell or on vent other than once by vinns when I asked (privately mind you) why I was not allowed to lot on an item. All I did for ackz was show up to everything I was asked to show up for, whether I wanted to or not. Edit: I spose that I was gonna be kicked is why Eyuni asked me if I wanted a pearl to the new shell... yeah that must be it. But Jud why did this post turn into your flame of ppl you didnt like in ackz? This is something completely different. If you want to continue your twisted facts about how things were in ackz, make a post about it and see who actually cares. I didnt even want to post on here at all, but when I'm attacked by someone who I did nothing to I just have to reply. I will not post on this thread again, my peace has been said, any other posts by jud or anyone else about ackz are just retarded. The shell is dead, let it die. Who really cares what you think of those that jumped from the burning ship.

But on the ACTUAL subject of the post, I never had a problem with Eyuni. She was always very nice to me and has a very good grasp on all of her jobs. On the fact of her being a lootwhore I wouldnt say I would agree. mostly everything that I was around for that she got, ppl wanted her to get. Anything pld that is. I mean she was the main tank of the LS for the longest time, and she earned most or her items through her performace. I would love to be in a HMN linkshell with a tank with the capabilities of Euni again.


on a side note. leave it to mars to make me laugh in a thread like this. all "negative nancy" lol

[Judai]

Turned into a flame war when ppl lied. I specifically told you 2x you needed to chill out on the emo and ranting. Once was in party at Vrtra when you bitched and the other was on vent when you were moing about shit.

btw, I had no real problems with Knolan other then him making shit up and hounding me to get to Eyuni. I still like Airenn and I had no problems with Mars. Brotha is a fucking moron though and only reason I brought you up is because of Brotha. Learn2read.

[Dramion]

Haha wow... this thread looks like one right out of Ackz private forums! Memories!

I doubt Eyuni was hacked lol... they would have changed everything so he/she couldnt get that account back. I don't blame her for leaving Ifrit... the endgame scene has pretty much gone to shit thanks to LM17.


I can pretty much second everything that Judai has said. You guys should really take him/her on Ramuh... he/she will only contribute to your linkshell and you won't get any drama. Not everyone has friends or is liked on their server. Of course those people will try to run them into the ground and make them look horrible.

I really like Eyuni. We have always been friends and it was cool to see her/him go from nubPLD to omgwtfpwnPLD. One of the best original PLDs on Ifrit. Pretty good player on all her/his jobs. She/he earned Hauteclaire and EVERYONE in the linkshell wanted her/him to get it! He/She camped it endlessly. The people who say he/she didn't deserve it have no say in the matter and/or are just jealous.

I don't think Eyuni is a lootwhore. If you take into consideration the lifespan of the LS and the items he/she got... it wasn't that much gear. I think I got more gear in one night in sky my FIRST night in the shell than Eyuni haha.

Knokno, if you knew Eyuni was broke... you should have known you'd never see the gil back for the M. Body, etc. I was told the same as Judai regarding his missing gear. It was only a Vermy and 2 Astrals... their value is nearly nothing now lol. But it's still messed up those went missing. Doesn't Houran still have them? '-'a

Please disregard any post from Vinns or Sarelk. They have no right to judge him/her when they ran off with the LS bank and did a ninja /breaklinkshell.

I just want to know if Eyuni is a boy/girl irl lol

[Judai]

Eyuni supposed to be a girl and sounded like a girl on vent but \o/

[zelphes]

To Judai: You dont even got your facts straight - is this the facts you heard from your ls leaders that ran away with your ls bank and intended ackz to last 8 months only?

1. No I wasnt away on a break when eyuni joined my shell. So I didnt put myself ahead of her on gear.
I was already infront of her on "these items" before she joined my shell since she joined 2 years after I started Valour.

2. I went on a 2 months break because I moved irl around summer time 2006. And because of that Eyuni was
bumped ahead on Shadow Ring before me. I was apart of the decision deciding that.

3. This isnt about Eyuni running away with gear when ackz formed when several Valour members left to start Ackz.

This is about thinking you were friends with someone - investing alot time to gear this individual (I was there for all those items mentioned above when Eyuni got them) then see this individual leave over lies and rumours your former ls leaders/my former sacks spread about me to gank my members. Sarelk even stated on our old forums that he would crush Valour because of our personal feud.
And Imaulle said that all my members was gonna join Ackz. That didnt happend.

Tell me did ackz ever gear up a player as much we did with Eyuni in span of 8 months? I doubt that. Thats alot of gear I listed above.

I've talked to Imaulle and Sarelk about this stuff, so I am not gonna attack them here, but merely explain to you what happend in Valour.

Your ls leaders accused me of alot of things, when ackz broke they did what they accused me for - running off with ls bank+synth items for their own benefit.
Karma.

I had several members (ex-valour members only) apologizing to me for what happend back then when they followed sarelk, vinns to ackz because of the crap they spewed out about me since that was just ill-intended lies. Some of those I didnt have any beef with and considered them as friends.

I am still here with my shell Valour that I have led for soon 4 years. Nothing of what your former ackz leaders said came true.
If it did, no one would ever be in my shell obviously.
One of my members that left for ackz back when it started have rejoined Valour after he saw what happend to Ackz.

I think that explains alot.

In short: start your own hnm shell Judai, gear up a player you considered a friend with all that gear mentioned above, then experience that particular member leave after 8 months because of stories made up about you just because you had 2 sacks that disagreed with how you led your shell then get back to me.

I'll happily discuss with you more on this topic then.

[dipset975]

Nice to see you havent changed a bit jud. All this coming from the guy who said minuet has no affect on your damage. When he was out parsed by a monk that didnt have it and he did. No you'll deny this though.

Izzu and panda played yes but they weren't at events understandably.They were gone from may to september but your math says that 2 months. Also dumbass, i said i wasn't at kirin that night otherwise i would have said something. On That note, i did argue with vinns directly on the way he sorted loot, but you know how vinns is. Either log to avoid the problems or pretend to be afk. This was months ago though after the ridill dropped.

The thing with shadow i said what if it was right. Then if shadow was out of line and always complaining you wouldn't just put 1 person in front of him. You would knock him down in tiers not just let 1 person jump in front of everyone. There was several people on that list that izzu went by. Izzu wasnt even second it was Phar. Let me reiterate wtf i said since your hard of hearing. This was all at shot at vinns decision making skills. I never said that someone didn't deserve any item. Since this is the only point that you decided to comment against. Ill take it you aren't arguing my point.

Even still you said people decided not to show up for events. This started happening about 2 months before i left. So the leaders had 2 months to fix these problems. They were aware of the issues also and told repeatedly. Yet none of you did anything to fix them right? If you say the problems were fixable.Then when people started leaving you decide to try and change things. So how much time were we supposed to give yall, 4 months?

Like i said before pearling lunitik was when i decided the sacks were to incompetent to fix things. These are the same leaders who let a guys that screen shot happy feet and posted it on BG. Then openly said he was planning it months ago. Yet somehow you decided to pearl him again!! Then he lots homam legs and jumps servers. So I'm supposed to trust these leaders to fix everything right? Get the fuck outta here. Im done though im beating a dead horse at this point.

If thats bailing on an ls then so be it.

[zelphes]

I just want to know if Eyuni is a boy/girl irl lol

She is a girl so you can relax now. You didnt cyber with a guy.

[Judai]

Homam Legs wut? Baha? He jumped AFTER everyone else, retard. SS Happyfeet, did we find out who that was? No.

When did I say Minuet doesn't affect damage? lol.. Maybe you mis-understood me when I said Minuet doesn't effect DRK SE/BW damage. Let's see, Pharoahe, who was in the LS like 2 months was ahead of Izzu why? Dramion who quit WAR like 10x was ahead of Izzu why? You get my point, I think, everyone Izzu jumped over shouldn't have been ahead of him in the first place. btw, Izzu didn't jump anyone, the sacks forgot to add him to lootlists and they merely decided on where to put him when he got back from w/e he was.

I was like the only person trying to keep us going(cerwin too and some reg members) but retards like you were busy argueing with everything I said. It was the stupid fighting you and renn and others caused that broke the shell. Leaders not kicking you sooner didn't help and I quite obviosuly stated they didn't do shit in the end.

btw, yes, you outparsed me like once or twice. Congrats. I outparsed you like 5 other times. Please tell me you aren't seriously stupid enough to think you were the better DD? and who the fuck cares who outparses who on a fucking zerg? Does that prove anything? Hitting 100 fists and watching yourself punch isn't skill. Typical BB thinking he is the best dd ever. I can only find two parses in my search, one with you winning by 800 dmg and the other you didn't go, in which I cam third behind the 2 kc drks. btw, you started with 100tp in that fight, since it was our first and I did not. I was like the only person who didn't bring an IW or Sleep pots. Let's also not forget I didn't have Haidate and I was still just as good or better.

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Let's keep derailing this tho Brotha, maybe eventually someone will notice how stupid you are. brb PMing Ski so he can laugh at you thinking you are some pwn dd. Not sure why I'm so compelled to keep argueing but you guys are showing the side of the story that involves you causing drama and running away.

edit: btw bb, nobody cares if you "bailed" on the LS, we were going to kick you anyways. Vinns was actually sad you dropped your pearl because he couldn't kick you. I really wish I SS'd forums and kept parses to show everyone how dumb you are. Even more so, I wish I could have SS'd the stupid ass shit you said in LS.

[dipset975]

Are you this emo because you got socks for christmas or something jud?


Edit who the fuck cares about a parse? Either way youll always be the same. When you have no leg to stand on make up something eh?

edit 2 Our kirins were always less than a minute. So not having haidate wont matter for a monk 2 hr. Good try though

[Khalil]

Wow, this thread went to shit quickly, lol. Anyways, thanks for your mixed response. Eyuni/Atani dropped her app when she got her acct back to "better assess" the situation on Ramuh, from what I can tell.

From the several tells I got from her, she seems like a nice, timid person. But, our conversations only lasted about 5-10 mins at most. But, thanks again for your input.

[Judai]

Wow, this thread went to shit quickly, lol. Anyways, thanks for your mixed response. Eyuni/Atani dropped her app when she got her acct back to "better assess" the situation on Ramuh, from what I can tell.

From the several tells I got from her, she seems like a nice, timid person. But, our conversations only lasted about 5-10 mins at most. But, thanks again for your input.

Seems like her account really was jacked if that's the case, which is unfortunate. Gonna miss her and hope she can find a home away from this drama.

lol@bb, didn't actually have a real comeback did you.

[dipset975]

whats the point when you say nothing but lies?

[Judai]

whats the point when you say nothing but lies?

I lied by agreeing with you? Nice logic. The BC is done anyways, not dragging on a dramafest with the likes of you. I think it's quite apparent to anyone who reads your posts that you are, infact, a moron.

[Kiwi]

Are you this emo because you got socks for christmas or something jud?


Edit who the fuck cares about a parse? Either way youll always be the same. When you have no leg to stand on make up something eh?

edit 2 Our kirins were always less than a minute. So not having haidate wont matter for a monk 2 hr. Good try though

You are aware that haidate has more then just 5 haste on it right? >.> 15 Dex hello2u. I wish I could find that parse where MY monk owned you Brew lol...

[dipset975]

whats the point when you say nothing but lies?

I lied by agreeing with you? Nice logic. The BC is done anyways, not dragging on a dramafest with the likes of you. I think it's quite apparent to anyone who reads your posts that you are, infact, a moron.

yes you agreed with me on certain parts. Other parts you didn't and lied about what happened. So by me responding that'll just give you a reason to make more lies? Not to mention others have already posted that you like to lie. Sorry for not finding a point to arguing that i'm a better dd than you. I mean what does it matter. I'm sorry for not taking part in your childish games.

Theres no point to any of this im done.

Edit yes miss kiwi Shura haidate also has 7 acc which he already has. Yes that is correct you did beat me on a few parses but i beat you on a few also.

[Judai]

15dex = about 3% crits retard.

You brought up DD, not me. Sorry I proved you were a retard there. I didn't lie and nobody posted that I lie. Some people added other views and more information to events. I plainly said what people lied about, amount of gil owed in items, forcing ppl to upgrade relic and trying to get the LS bank for herself. All bullshit and those are what set me off. I told them several times those were untrue and they still posted them.

Otherwise I said everything was different point of views but I wouldn't expect you to understand 90% of what people said brew. Thanks for you pointing out just how stupid you are in your last few posts. Again, you brought up parses and DD, not me or kiwi. You brought it up and we were both better, you lied. You might have beaten us a few times but who cares, I rarely even ate food for those 30s fights. Please stop trying to change your pov and act like you don't care about the topics you brought up.