War Weapon Question

[Baha]

Used Ifrit's offhand from time to time until Joyeuse at 70. After 70, even without joy there are some better sword alternatives, imho.

[yrpaine]

man / jug if no ridill

[RKenshin]

Agreed with above, if you can afford it your best Axe/Axe choice is Man/Jugg.

[Sampi]

I definitely agree, believe me the /SAM or SAMs that don't know how to use Seigan worth a crap drive me crazy as well. Almost as much as the /NINs that can't count shadows. Far too many people fall into one or both of those categories still. D:

Just out of curiosity, do you seigan>Third eye>WS , Seigan>WS>Thrid Eye, or WS>Seigan>Third Eye?

I myself varies on the party, but most of the time with the meh parties I have been having its Seigan>ThirdEye>WS, given, thats if I even have hasso up.

[Jyoshi]

Rampager I was really interested in but the low base dam kinda turned me off of it. I can't remember but did anyone ever figure out in the multiple crit WS threads if BCNM weapons crit +% stack with WS?

They do not, unfortunately. Otherwise a Subduer would be retarded broken. But I can tell by just watching my average damage.

/derail
oh man, i didnt know that ;x so is algol/balmung/balins better for meriting? and do claymore grips not effect crits on ws either?
/derailoff

[RKenshin]

I definitely agree, believe me the /SAM or SAMs that don't know how to use Seigan worth a crap drive me crazy as well. Almost as much as the /NINs that can't count shadows. Far too many people fall into one or both of those categories still. D:

Just out of curiosity, do you seigan>Third eye>WS , Seigan>WS>Thrid Eye, or WS>Seigan>Third Eye?

I myself varies on the party, but most of the time with the meh parties I have been having its Seigan>ThirdEye>WS, given, thats if I even have hasso up.

Seigan > Third Eye > WS.

I'm a big button smasher so it all happens just about instantly one after the other, no use in risking getting hit when I know I can avoid it for sure by activating Third Eye before the WS.

[Max™]

/ws "Raging Rush" <t>
/wait 3
/ja "Third Eye" <me>

As a failsafe, if I ws and it wears, that fires it by the time I start getting chewed on.

[Ferien]

On WAR, Seigan>TE>WS. I've been unintentionally tanking in most of my SAM pts, so that's usually full-time Seigan+TE, but if I don't have hate, same order as for WAR.

[orson]

Rampager I was really interested in but the low base dam kinda turned me off of it. I can't remember but did anyone ever figure out in the multiple crit WS threads if BCNM weapons crit +% stack with WS?

They do not, unfortunately. Otherwise a Subduer would be retarded broken. But I can tell by just watching my average damage.

/derail
oh man, i didnt know that ;x so is algol/balmung/balins better for meriting? and do claymore grips not effect crits on ws either?
/derailoff

Subduer still has a very good base dam and delay take that into account that the +6% crit does effect regular hits and most likely natural criting WSs it's arguably the best GSW (Not including relic obviously.) I haven't played around with store TP on GSWs though so Algol might be better overall.

Either way it's kinda moot since a Drk shouldn't really be meriting with GSW imo unless they have relic. It's by no means gimp but I'm pretty sure Guillotine out does Spinning Slash by a fair a bit now.

[Max™]

Guillo > SS fo sho unless you're getting triples off an Algol, it seems.

Takes +7 Store TP for 504 Delay to JUST hit 6 hits, so it would take more for Algol, and I think you'd be going good to get 7 hits out of a Subduer.