In Arrapago, the only person I feel comfortable with not having an HP cell is WHM.
BLMs get one shotted by gears (and they will get hit by them), and a triple gear AOE can wipe out any melee without an HP cell. Bard obviously needs it to pull 6F.
In Arrapago, the only person I feel comfortable with not having an HP cell is WHM.
BLMs get one shotted by gears (and they will get hit by them), and a triple gear AOE can wipe out any melee without an HP cell. Bard obviously needs it to pull 6F.
Feel free to cite the LJ source listed early on in the first page. I feel comfortable with my results now. Posted it - viewtopic.php?f=2&t=29399
As for how I feel about salvage, I feel TH works the same there as anywhere else. You have your lucky sprees and you don't. Sometimes these lucky sprees appear consistently for awhile under one condition. Sometimes the opposite is true. In the absence of any testing (there won't be any, I'd imagine), it's seems much more likely that "omg we got uber drops under these conditions twice or more times in a row" is an artifact of random luck, rather than TH behaving differently in other areas.
I'd rather give to WHM over RDM, rdm has more defensive capabilitiesOriginally Posted by Wizerd
the no MP filling convert shouldn't be a problem with red white bard for starters, and ballad1/2/fresh for seconds, and add 2 more mp/tic if you're using Storm Fife.
I remember killing zhay boss first time as RDM RDM MNK WAR THF BRD (or the war was really another mnk, forgot), neither rdm had a HP cell! We had to deal with discoid by stoneskin, lucky for us we had pileus's.
To expand on what Wafik said, any time we have RDM/WHM/BRD (which is most of the time) I'm not really Converting much anyway. HP is nice and all (and I like having it), but we kill so efficiently it isn't really practical for me to use enough MP to need to Convert. If I do for some reason, usually even the extra ~550 from halved HP is enough to keep me going.
That Zhayolm boss was fun, Shell V and Stoneskin win so hard. Discoid wasn't breaking Stoneskin when Phalanx was up.