Lost Odyssey(Check OP for any help you need w/endgame stuff)

[elison]

Just started CD4. Anything you guys recommend? Should I continue doing the main storyline until I reach Grand Staff, save then complete everything else the game has to offer?

Also, Most of my characters (minus Cooke, Sed and Tolten) are level 50-52. What levels am I looking at for most of the endgame stuff, and where can I go to grind out my levels?

I'm also interested in the level 3 rings; any suggestions?

[recuperi]

you're gonna need to get up to at least 70ish before you can finish the backyard matches all the way through, but you'll likely hit that while doing other sidequests. what i did was get up to the point where i'm supposed to be heading to grand staff and then start working on finishing up the game. i'd probably recommend doing the mini-boss things early on just because you can gain some good exp just fighting your way to the bosses. at 50ish i'd say probably go to the great ancient ruins place for grinding out levels, or temple of enlightenment if its not too hard at that point (you'll be gaining a level per encounter there up until like lv75-80).

i cant remember what level i was when i did the fight, but you'll pretty much need to get up to being finished with numara story on disc 4 before you can completely finish all the quests (white boa gives you access to several new optional areas). the royal seals thing would be one of the first things i'd finish though: it gives you the best sword you can have for any character in the game (assuming the immortal has royal equipment set)

other than that its pretty much just a bunch of tedious checking over of each area for seeds and items that can take up a whole lot of time if you dont own a guide, so you could very well be playing for double what you have played up to disc 4


edit: several of the lv3 rings you'll end up using are dropped from the invisible chests or mini-bosses. the only one that i actually made and combined was the assassin's ring. other than that i've only had my main 2 melees using the pair of rings that have hp+mp drain for a cheap way of refreshing and regenning all characters at once :> been sticking mostly with a 3 mage backline for the last disc because alot of it requires more curing than you can cover with just 2 people on 3 non-casters

[elison]

you're gonna need to get up to at least 70ish before you can finish the backyard matches all the way through, but you'll likely hit that while doing other sidequests. what i did was get up to the point where i'm supposed to be heading to grand staff and then start working on finishing up the game. i'd probably recommend doing the mini-boss things early on just because you can gain some good exp just fighting your way to the bosses. at 50ish i'd say probably go to the great ancient ruins place for grinding out levels, or temple of enlightenment if its not too hard at that point (you'll be gaining a level per encounter there up until like lv75-80).

i cant remember what level i was when i did the fight, but you'll pretty much need to get up to being finished with numara story on disc 4 before you can completely finish all the quests (white boa gives you access to several new optional areas). the royal seals thing would be one of the first things i'd finish though: it gives you the best sword you can have for any character in the game (assuming the immortal has royal equipment set)

other than that its pretty much just a bunch of tedious checking over of each area for seeds and items that can take up a whole lot of time if you dont own a guide, so you could very well be playing for double what you have played up to disc 4


edit: several of the lv3 rings you'll end up using are dropped from the invisible chests or mini-bosses. the only one that i actually made and combined was the assassin's ring. other than that i've only had my main 2 melees using the pair of rings that have hp+mp drain for a cheap way of refreshing and regenning all characters at once :> been sticking mostly with a 3 mage backline for the last disc because alot of it requires more curing than you can cover with just 2 people on 3 non-casters

Thanks for your advice. What group did you personally find best to handle all the mini-bosses?

[Maguspk]

I just got done with the Sorceror place,just entered the Black Cave and the game is just angering me. I can't find a good place to farm skill points and my characters are frustratingly different. @ immortals with 8 slots each and the other two (Ming and Sarah) with 4 slots each due to using Slot Seeds early which I told myself I wouldn't do but ended up doing to allow for more anti- and relax and such.

Anyway, will there be a fuckton of Slot Seeds coming up soon or a way to get more of them? I hate having to only get one anti with the female mages and then putting on their magic for the situation.

Can anyone tell me everything will be OK soon and how it will be ok because I'm just disinterested in how stupid it is that they give you new characters at level 25 and shit but only 3 slot seeds. That's bullshit

[Blarg]

Not sure if its been discussed but how exactly does the leveling system work in this game. If you are a few lvls lower you get crazy exp per fight, but after you level like twice you get next to no exp. Just wondering if there is a formula to the way the xp works or something.

[Exoduso]

I just got done with the Sorceror place,just entered the Black Cave and the game is just angering me. I can't find a good place to farm skill points and my characters are frustratingly different. @ immortals with 8 slots each and the other two (Ming and Sarah) with 4 slots each due to using Slot Seeds early which I told myself I wouldn't do but ended up doing to allow for more anti- and relax and such.

Anyway, will there be a fuckton of Slot Seeds coming up soon or a way to get more of them? I hate having to only get one anti with the female mages and then putting on their magic for the situation.

Can anyone tell me everything will be OK soon and how it will be ok because I'm just disinterested in how stupid it is that they give you new characters at level 25 and shit but only 3 slot seeds. That's bullshit

Check the OP, it's got the list of all slot seeds in the game.

Also, you should have at least Skill+3 by now, it's learned off an accessory. There are also Skill+5 and Skill+10 at CD4.

And you should've gotten some slot seeds by now, are you checking your inventory? If you are, are you looking for items or are you just ignoring chests/items on the field like ramming into trees and probing pots? Most Slot seeds are obtained like that.

[elison]

I just got done with the Sorceror place,just entered the Black Cave and the game is just angering me. I can't find a good place to farm skill points and my characters are frustratingly different. @ immortals with 8 slots each and the other two (Ming and Sarah) with 4 slots each due to using Slot Seeds early which I told myself I wouldn't do but ended up doing to allow for more anti- and relax and such.

Anyway, will there be a fuckton of Slot Seeds coming up soon or a way to get more of them? I hate having to only get one anti with the female mages and then putting on their magic for the situation.

Can anyone tell me everything will be OK soon and how it will be ok because I'm just disinterested in how stupid it is that they give you new characters at level 25 and shit but only 3 slot seeds. That's bullshit

It gets easier. Soon you'll be able to get an Awakening Bracelet (+3 Skill Slots) that you can learn and then add to one of your skill slots, that way all of your Immortals have it. What level are you? At level 28 I went to Numara Atoll and fought the silver Kelelon using the Gamble spell. I would get 1 level per kill and I went all the way to level 49 there using this strategy. You also get 6 skill points per 1 Kelelon you kill. Only downside is the fact that they LOVE to run away from a fight, so it gets kinda frustrating, but it's worth it.

[Exoduso]

I just got done with the Sorceror place,just entered the Black Cave and the game is just angering me. I can't find a good place to farm skill points and my characters are frustratingly different. @ immortals with 8 slots each and the other two (Ming and Sarah) with 4 slots each due to using Slot Seeds early which I told myself I wouldn't do but ended up doing to allow for more anti- and relax and such.

Anyway, will there be a fuckton of Slot Seeds coming up soon or a way to get more of them? I hate having to only get one anti with the female mages and then putting on their magic for the situation.

Can anyone tell me everything will be OK soon and how it will be ok because I'm just disinterested in how stupid it is that they give you new characters at level 25 and shit but only 3 slot seeds. That's bullshit

It gets easier. Soon you'll be able to get an Awakening Bracelet (+3 Skill Slots) that you can learn and then add to one of your skill slots, that way all of your Immortals have it. What level are you? At level 28 I went to Numara Atoll and fought the silver Kelelon using the Gamble spell. I would get 1 level per kill and I went all the way to level 49 there using this strategy. You also get 6 skill points per 1 Kelelon you kill. Only downside is the fact that they LOVE to run away from a fight, so it gets kinda frustrating, but it's worth it.

No reason leveling up this early...at CD4 there's a dungeon (Temple of Enlightenment) that will give you a full 100 xp (1 full level) per fight until level 67, and even then half the mobs there will level you once per battle until 83~. The Atoll's xp stop somewhere around level 50 I believe, so I guess if you want to that badly you can xp there until you're 50-52, and then go to Enlightenment until virtually Lv.99.

[elison]

I just got done with the Sorceror place,just entered the Black Cave and the game is just angering me. I can't find a good place to farm skill points and my characters are frustratingly different. @ immortals with 8 slots each and the other two (Ming and Sarah) with 4 slots each due to using Slot Seeds early which I told myself I wouldn't do but ended up doing to allow for more anti- and relax and such.

Anyway, will there be a fuckton of Slot Seeds coming up soon or a way to get more of them? I hate having to only get one anti with the female mages and then putting on their magic for the situation.

Can anyone tell me everything will be OK soon and how it will be ok because I'm just disinterested in how stupid it is that they give you new characters at level 25 and shit but only 3 slot seeds. That's bullshit

It gets easier. Soon you'll be able to get an Awakening Bracelet (+3 Skill Slots) that you can learn and then add to one of your skill slots, that way all of your Immortals have it. What level are you? At level 28 I went to Numara Atoll and fought the silver Kelelon using the Gamble spell. I would get 1 level per kill and I went all the way to level 49 there using this strategy. You also get 6 skill points per 1 Kelelon you kill. Only downside is the fact that they LOVE to run away from a fight, so it gets kinda frustrating, but it's worth it.

No reason leveling up this early...at CD4 there's a dungeon (Temple of Enlightenment) that will give you a full 100 xp (1 full level) per fight until level 67, and even then half the mobs there will level you once per battle until 83~. The Atoll's xp stop somewhere around level 50 I believe, so I guess if you want to that badly you can xp there until you're 50-52, and then go to Enlightenment until virtually Lv.99.

I did it to earn SP and learn skills, and ironically I leveled at the same time which forced me to stay there longer so I could learn those new skills, lol.

And I'm already on CD4, just doing the Royal Crests shit now before I start anything else.

[Maguspk]

I just got done with the Sorceror place,just entered the Black Cave and the game is just angering me. I can't find a good place to farm skill points and my characters are frustratingly different. @ immortals with 8 slots each and the other two (Ming and Sarah) with 4 slots each due to using Slot Seeds early which I told myself I wouldn't do but ended up doing to allow for more anti- and relax and such.

Anyway, will there be a fuckton of Slot Seeds coming up soon or a way to get more of them? I hate having to only get one anti with the female mages and then putting on their magic for the situation.

Can anyone tell me everything will be OK soon and how it will be ok because I'm just disinterested in how stupid it is that they give you new characters at level 25 and shit but only 3 slot seeds. That's bullshit

Check the OP, it's got the list of all slot seeds in the game.

Also, you should have at least Skill+3 by now, it's learned off an accessory. There are also Skill+5 and Skill+10 at CD4.

And you should've gotten some slot seeds by now, are you checking your inventory? If you are, are you looking for items or are you just ignoring chests/items on the field like ramming into trees and probing pots? Most Slot seeds are obtained like that.

I'm confident I have gotten every item up until now. Although I might have missed some. Like I said my Kaim and Seth both have 8 (10 slot seeds) and then Sarah and Ming have 4 (2 Slot seeds), so I've gotten a total of 12 which doesn't seem bad to me. I will check the OP for these Skill+3 things or whatever though I guess, those sound helpful.

Ya according to OP I haven't missed a slot seed yet, just in Black Cave now where I get the 13th Seed. So I guess the game just forces you to suck with 2 characters at this point oh well. Also the Slot+3 accessory seems to be here:

Slot +3
-Awakening Bracelet
-Crow in Saman before Experimental Staff/Khent Gate behind soldier

Slot +5
-Freedom Armband
-After getting the Nautilus go back to Uhra's Great Gate and talk to the soldier nearest the door, deliver his letter to the man in the square nearest the castle

I don't even know what Saman is so I'm sure I can't get it yet

[Exoduso]

Saman is the final city in CD2. It's also where the AH is in the beginning of cd3 all the way up until the end of the game.

And elison, don't bother honestly... in CD4 there's a cave that will give you 20SP per fight (a fight that takes like 10 seconds, too) if you have Sed's 'Double SP' skill.) Speaking of the 'double' skills, only 1 char actually need to equip those, to have the effect for the entire group. (Forgotten Cave is the name of the place, btw... I finished the immortals' skills achievement there so fast it's not even funny... after I got all the missing accessories, that is heh)... and you will miss most accessories up until you get a save point just before the final dungeon (you'll know it's the last one not when it tells you you can't go back because you CAN... you know this when the game prompts you to save... it never does that, so obviously if it wants you to save, it gives you a shot to save and get the fuck out of there and do whatever sidequest/random shit you wanna do instead of fighting the final boss so go ahead and do that if you want, when the save prompts, save and turn around and go do whatever it is you want to do before the final showdown... or just go fight him, see the ending, then load the save again and do whatever you want to do at that point.)

I've practically given up on getting the Treasure Trove achievement until some detailed guide will come out... It's virtually impossible for me to find the single items i'm missing in the world (I have every single treasure chest 1000000% positive about that)... but finding every small pot, locker, drawer, closet, painting, poster, etc. in the cities is fucking ridiculous, nothx. My save is already @ 85 hours and my party is almost at level 90, I think i'm done running around until I figure out a better way to check which item i'm missing.

I also need the spell acheivement because I fucked up with the spells... do yourself a favor and BUY Shieldus and Barricadus either at the end of CD2 on the boat to Experimental Staff (dude on the boat carries it), or in Gohtza's middletown in CD3, a store there carries it as well. In CD4 both these stores are not available anymore, and those two spells are the only thing that you can't backtrack and obtain in CD4, so grab those when you can if you care about the achievements. If you don't, more power to you.

[IncredibleGulk]

question in regards to ring maker--

does he only have the same rings available as when you first meet him? ive seen him 4 times after that and its the same set of rings.

[Zanz L. Barre The 3rd]

question in regards to ring maker--

does he only have the same rings available as when you first meet him? ive seen him 4 times after that and its the same set of rings.

He'll start offering Lv2 rings once you reach a city called Gohtza, which is aroudn the middle of disc 3.

Lv3, as you could assume, becomes available in disc 4.

[IncredibleGulk]

ah ok. thanks. i just beat the Ice Canyon and Gohtza is next on the world map. haven't gone there yet; saved right after i beat the ice Boss.

are the lv2/lv3 rings the same stats+1? like does he offer the Heculean, Fire-powered, etc. .. or are there different ones?

[Maguspk]

I'm missing some Spirit Magic in the earlier ranks and I didn't buy single target Shield in the Namura shop because I figured it'd be a waste of money. But now I fear I'll never be able to go back and get it. Will I be without Shield forever lol?

[Exoduso]

I also need the spell acheivement because I fucked up with the spells... do yourself a favor and BUY Shieldus and Barricadus either at the end of CD2 on the boat to Experimental Staff (dude on the boat carries it), or in Gohtza's middletown in CD3, a store there carries it as well. In CD4 both these stores are not available anymore, and those two spells are the only thing that you can't backtrack and obtain in CD4, so grab those when you can if you care about the achievements. If you don't, more power to you.

[Maguspk]

I also need the spell acheivement because I fucked up with the spells... do yourself a favor and BUY Shieldus and Barricadus either at the end of CD2 on the boat to Experimental Staff (dude on the boat carries it), or in Gohtza's middletown in CD3, a store there carries it as well. In CD4 both these stores are not available anymore, and those two spells are the only thing that you can't backtrack and obtain in CD4, so grab those when you can if you care about the achievements. If you don't, more power to you.

Hmmm ok.

[Amiel]

For some reason I'm STILL in the Ice Canyon...I'm about done learning whatever spells/skills for each and every immortal up until this point...(watch me miss something else!). I manage to unlock the achievement for "Thanks a Million" in the process though. At about 31+ hrs now. Going to go back and find the missing seeds that I can/have access to. According to Exo's list I should be at about 63 but I think I only have 54...I knew I was missing stuff :'( and I never turned them into any Pipots because I thought I had to save them for the achievements!

[Kiarax]

So are Shieldus and Barricadus the only things that you can't backtrack and get? Game came out today in EU but I'm expecting my copy to arrive either tomorrow or Monday. Just wanna know what I need to look out for so I can 100% it.

[Exoduso]

So are Shieldus and Barricadus the only things that you can't backtrack and get? Game came out today in EU but I'm expecting my copy to arrive either tomorrow or Monday. Just wanna know what I need to look out for so I can 100% it.

Only only only and only... And I assume that that, too, is just a bug/they forgot about it, because it doesn't make sense how you can go back and eeeeeeeeeverything in the game except for those two spells.

But yeah when you see them at a random shop (end of CD2/Beginning of CD3), do yourself a favor and grab them. Every other item in the game is available at some shape or form in the game. There is also an accessory that the guide/online guides say you can only steal from a boss in cd3, but that's a lie... I found that item in a treasure chest in the final dungeon.