Ron Paul Critique

[Correction]

so because someone uses faith as a basis for the spiritual part of his life, he is unable to make any logical decisions, especially when he is the leader of the free world?

Bush failed that test bigtime. What makes Ron Paul different?

[Kuya]

especially when he is the leader of the free world

Honest question, what does that mean? I never understood that epitet(sp?).

[Demosthenes11]

comparing bush to any other person is like comparing a NASCAR driver to a physicist

[Demosthenes11]

especially when he is the leader of the free world

Honest question, what does that mean? I never understood that epitet(sp?).

It's more of an imagined title now considering how the world has changed, but it's supposed to symbolize the rise of western democracy and what the president of the USA is in relation to that

[Kuya]

especially when he is the leader of the free world

Honest question, what does that mean? I never understood that epitet(sp?).

It's more of an imagined title now considering how the world has changed, but it's supposed to symbolize the rise of western democracy and what the president of the USA is in relation to that

Oh, but it seems to imply that the US created democracy, was that intentional?

edit: well you did say western democracy, but i don't know what western democracy is though, if it is in fact any different.

[Charla]

I always saw it as implying that the US leads all the other democracies, which it sort of did during the cold war and stuff. Now I think it mostly implies that the cold war is still relevant.

[Demosthenes11]

especially when he is the leader of the free world

Honest question, what does that mean? I never understood that epitet(sp?).

It's more of an imagined title now considering how the world has changed, but it's supposed to symbolize the rise of western democracy and what the president of the USA is in relation to that

Oh, but it seems to imply that the US created democracy, was that intentional?

well, they seem to be the model for a modern democracy/reupblic. I can't really think of a strong democracy at the end of the 19th century off the top of my head.

[Eaglestrike]

so because someone uses faith as a basis for the spiritual part of his life, he is unable to make any logical decisions, especially when he is the leader of the free world?

Bush failed that test bigtime. What makes Ron Paul different?

He's running based on the Constitution?

[Kuya]

especially when he is the leader of the free world

Honest question, what does that mean? I never understood that epitet(sp?).

It's more of an imagined title now considering how the world has changed, but it's supposed to symbolize the rise of western democracy and what the president of the USA is in relation to that

Oh, but it seems to imply that the US created democracy, was that intentional?

well, they seem to be the model for a modern democracy/reupblic. I can't really think of a strong democracy at the end of the 19th century off the top of my head.

Ok, i get it. It was the strongest democracy at the time so it self-appointed that title. Makes sense.

[Demosthenes11]

I guess you could call it a self-appointed title, but it was definitely true
Whether it is now or not is debatable (KOFI ANNAN AHAHAHA) but ya

[Charla]

Well I always thought of it as a cold war term. During the cold war it probably made sense, as America really did see itself as leading all the free peoples of the world against the evil Soviets and their evil empire of oppression and suffering and evil. Today it makes about as much sense as the term GOP, which is used more often and apparently with less implication.

edit: oh hey, wikipedia agrees.

[Correction]

I think we're over-arguing the semantics.

Salient Point 1: Ron Paul lost and isn't even worth the effort to debate
Salient Point 2: STFU guartz

[Kuya]

all the free peoples of the world against the evil Soviets and their evil empire of oppression and suffering and evil.

Did you type that with a straight face?

[Yangsing]

lolronpaul

[Charla]

all the free peoples of the world against the evil Soviets and their evil empire of oppression and suffering and evil.

Did you type that with a straight face?

That would take half the fun out of it!

[Zanz L. Barre The 3rd]

But as far as religion, heh, I say it's good to have a little fear of God when in control of 10,000 nukes. lol

Wow, you're an idiot lol.

Anyone who affiliates a fear of weapons of mass destruction by any means is a fool.

[guartz]

But as far as religion, heh, I say it's good to have a little fear of God when in control of 10,000 nukes. lol

Wow, you're an idiot lol.

Anyone who affiliates a fear of weapons of mass destruction by any means is a fool.

I think you misunderstand my meaning. Which is not all that unusual with people who begin with insults.

[BIGSTIC]

How about we just agree he is as two faced as any other politician running out there ie: His fight against pork barrel spending LOL

The argument about faith is as valid as The famous Obabma pic of him not saluting which honestly i would vote for an athiest who "STOOD FOR AMERICA" rather than a Christian who would burn our flag.

[evilbau]

Other than what i have spoken about previously, my critique of ron paul is that I am thoroughly unimpressed with just about all his policies. However, I feel he is a very smart and experienced guy who is a good debater. I like listening to all his debates and speeches, and I often agree with his analysis, but disagree with his conclusions and proposed solutions.

My Ron Paul Critique is that his supporters are caught up in the ideas with no sense of context, no sense of the impact of any of his proposals. I think Ron Paul does have that sense of the consequences of his ideas, but just doesn't care (which I respect as well haha). This is why his campaign attracts all the crazy people on the internet.

Basically I respect him for his ideas, but don't agree him AT ALL. I have little respect for his supporters because they seem ignorant of the consequences and/or incomplete understanding of the issues at hand. Stats on Green Party members converted to Ron Paul fanatics, anyone?

[Eaglestrike]

My support of Ron Paul is mostly based off what I learned in my American Government Honors class in college. We were very heavy on talking about the constitution and what the Founding Fathers believed should be the way the country is run.

I think a number of things Ron Paul proposes would have some more immediate negative effects than positive ones, I think anyone who actually know what they're talking about will agree. But Ron Paul and many supports I'm sure will tell you that after some time, it'll be far more positive than the way things have been going.