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    Int and dark magic

    I know this has been thrown around and questioned a lot, but is there any conclusive evidence int affects aspir/drain? I'm looking to finish rdm drain/aspir set and I'm not sure macroing in int is even worth the loss in mp.

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    Re: Int and dark magic

    Not that I've ever seen. Skill only. Seems to raise the cap along with lowering resist rates. Never match what I can do on BLM with RDM, but I see decent, reasonably consistent results on that job in Dynamis (main place I use /BLM or /DRK nowdays).

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    Re: Int and dark magic

    There's no conclusive evidence, go for Dark Magic Skill > Magic Accuracy > Fast Cast/Haste > -enmity for Drain/Aspir and Fast Cast/Haste > -enmity > Dark Magic Skill > Magic Accuracy for Stun unless you're fighting Khimaira or a Chariot mob (though I don't know why a RDM would be stunning in either of those situations in the first place).

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    Re: Int and dark magic

    I wouldn't bother, I never saw any difference in potency.

    Sure there's a chance it affects resists, and RDM would be the job to test that on, however it's too hard to prove and honestly I never saw a difference between +20 and +50 INT.

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    Re: Int and dark magic

    Quote Originally Posted by Demosthenes11
    I know this has been thrown around and questioned a lot, but is there any conclusive evidence int affects aspir/drain? I'm looking to finish rdm drain/aspir set and I'm not sure macroing in int is even worth the loss in mp.
    as a blm, where i can't get a big chunk of dark magic, IE head, i generally go for haste/fast cast. i figure that grinding out more shots is more important than making them slightly bigger. as a rdm, though, you might need more accuracy to even make it into the profitable realm, since i know my rdm drain/aspirs tend to suck, but then my rdm sucks. don't underestimate the value of magic accuracy either. a handfull of pieces of the wise set (i think legs and maybe body but there are so many other choices and lolchausible) have a modest chunk of macc as does nashira. try them on and see if that doesn't up your consistency some.

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    Re: Int and dark magic

    Skill only for drain aspir.

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    Re: Int and dark magic

    As it is right now, the following is my gear for drain/aspir:
    Pluto's staff
    the int/mnd+1 strap
    phantom tathlum
    Nashira head
    dark torque
    loq/desamilion earring
    nashira body
    crimson hands
    tamas/snow
    prism
    penitent's / anrin obi for darksday/dynamis
    mahatma legs
    goliard clogs

    Problem is, that's like 0 haste. What should i be swapping in/out and is buying a dark earring worth it?

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    Re: Int and dark magic

    i have the earring and i'd think it would be worth it to you if you like maxing out stuff and have another job with dark magic skill. and as a rdm, fuck your haste, you have fastcast. I have full nashira so i use that, and if you have it i'd bother to say add 5macc with the legs/feet.

    I just made a drain macro for my whm/sch, gonna test it out :3

    edit: 188 (capped my hp so idk) drain from whm, cute

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    Re: Int and dark magic

    Quote Originally Posted by Demosthenes11
    As it is right now, the following is my gear for drain/aspir:
    Pluto's staff
    the int/mnd+1 strap
    phantom tathlum
    Nashira head
    dark torque
    loq/desamilion earring
    nashira body
    crimson hands
    tamas/snow
    prism
    penitent's / anrin obi for darksday/dynamis
    mahatma legs
    goliard clogs

    Problem is, that's like 0 haste. What should i be swapping in/out and is buying a dark earring worth it?
    IMO, the belt is doing you diddlyshit. do you have a swift belt? i use that for things like haste/refresh too to try to eek out just a HAIR more speed on their recasts. so far you have the nashira head for +2 haste. you could go with the af hat, but i doubt you'd get as much mileage as you do out of the nashira. you have the body which is just famous for it. other places to stack haste are nashira legs if you own them, and 1% haste and 2 macc on the nashira feet. this assumes you've been killing ultima an awful lot though, and what you have there seems very very reasonable for what you're going for. biggest thing i'd do is shove a swift belt in and you're probably set w/o going psycho on limbus drops.

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    Re: Int and dark magic

    Anrin Obi is great in Dynamis or Apollyon. Swift or something would be a good option outside of that.

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    Re: Int and dark magic

    Quote Originally Posted by Nirokun!
    i have the earring and i'd think it would be worth it to you if you like maxing out stuff and have another job with dark magic skill. and as a rdm, fuck your haste, you have fastcast. I have full nashira so i use that, and if you have it i'd bother to say add 5macc with the legs/feet.

    I just made a drain macro for my whm/sch, gonna test it out :3

    edit: 188 (capped my hp so idk) drain from whm, cute
    ultima is a whore and doesnt drop legs more than twice a year, but I'm next for it.
    goliard or nashira feet really the same thing, i have both so doesnt really matter

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    Re: Int and dark magic

    Quote Originally Posted by drwaffles
    There's no conclusive evidence, go for Dark Magic Skill > Magic Accuracy > Fast Cast/Haste > -enmity for Drain/Aspir and Fast Cast/Haste > -enmity > Dark Magic Skill > Magic Accuracy for Stun unless you're fighting Khimaira or a Chariot mob (though I don't know why a RDM would be stunning in either of those situations in the first place).
    Ever 7-manned with no BLMs?

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    Re: Int and dark magic

    Quote Originally Posted by Demosthenes11
    Quote Originally Posted by Nirokun!
    i have the earring and i'd think it would be worth it to you if you like maxing out stuff and have another job with dark magic skill. and as a rdm, fuck your haste, you have fastcast. I have full nashira so i use that, and if you have it i'd bother to say add 5macc with the legs/feet.

    I just made a drain macro for my whm/sch, gonna test it out :3

    edit: 188 (capped my hp so idk) drain from whm, cute
    ultima is a whore and doesnt drop legs more than twice a year, but I'm next for it.
    goliard or nashira feet really the same thing, i have both so doesnt really matter
    haste on nashira :D

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    Re: Int and dark magic

    Quote Originally Posted by Therin
    Quote Originally Posted by drwaffles
    There's no conclusive evidence, go for Dark Magic Skill > Magic Accuracy > Fast Cast/Haste > -enmity for Drain/Aspir and Fast Cast/Haste > -enmity > Dark Magic Skill > Magic Accuracy for Stun unless you're fighting Khimaira or a Chariot mob (though I don't know why a RDM would be stunning in either of those situations in the first place).
    Ever 7-manned with no BLMs?
    Something similar, and we got hit with Fulmination twice from resisted Stuns.

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