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    JoP depop

    If you pop JoP and have it kited around while killing the first one, can it depop on its way back to the alliance if the person kiting it dies?

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    Re: JoP depop

    I don't think NMs can depop.

    EDIT: Well, under special circumstances (ie getting back to it's pop spot after a wipe or something) weather mobs depop too, so yeah, NMs can depop, but not like reg mobs when you lose aggro they despawn. (Cept for weather nms?)

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    Re: JoP depop

    Well that's what I said. However after I died kiting it around where you pop JoL, it failed to return to its pop spot after it had started walking back and exited my viewing range.

    Edit: Been about 15 min now.

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    Re: JoP depop

    Mm, there is still some wonky glitches with JoP, he could just be like, invisible. ._. It didn't go to its twin?

    Could try training in other mobs and -ga casting on them and seeing if you see damage on JoP too, but I haven't seen that glitch in AGES, pretty sure it was fixed..?

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    Re: JoP depop

    Yea we having someone switch to RNG to scan for it...we thinking maybe it's doing what it did back when it was bugged (2nd one would depop and you'd have BLMs -aga3 around where it showed up on scan).

    The ??? is back up, though.

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    Re: JoP depop

    Has happened to my linkshell before. It depopped before returning to the ??? area. Sucks.

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    Re: JoP depop

    This happened to us last week actually, I'm not sure exactly what transpired as I was late to the pop but apparently things went bad, lotta people died and someone started kiting the copy away, it depopped somehow, we recovered, killed real JoP and still got drops.

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    Re: JoP depop

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashira
    Mm, there is still some wonky glitches with JoP, he could just be like, invisible. ._. It didn't go to its twin?

    Could try training in other mobs and -ga casting on them and seeing if you see damage on JoP too, but I haven't seen that glitch in AGES, pretty sure it was fixed..?
    It isn't a glitch, JoP warps to the person with highest hate if it is outside of melee range, it disappears for a second or two.

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    Re: JoP depop

    Quote Originally Posted by Seditedi
    Quote Originally Posted by Ashira
    Mm, there is still some wonky glitches with JoP, he could just be like, invisible. ._. It didn't go to its twin?

    Could try training in other mobs and -ga casting on them and seeing if you see damage on JoP too, but I haven't seen that glitch in AGES, pretty sure it was fixed..?
    It isn't a glitch, JoP warps to the person with highest hate if it is outside of melee range, it disappears for a second or two.
    What you're thinking of, where Prudence shifts into an alternate dimension and rematerializes next to the person with highest hate during Perfect Dodge, isn't a glitch. However, I think Ashira is referring to the early days of sea, when Prudence was glitched to where it was unable to return to our realm, and so remained neither alive nor dead in the vast abyss of nothingness. If you stood on just the right spot, a portal would open temporarily and allow Prudence to one-shot you from beyond the ether, and likewise if you brought over regular mobs and AoEd them you'd be able to damage it, much like Fortifications prior to the recent patch, and actually kill him and get drops that way.

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    Re: JoP depop

    Yeah, I think that is what she might be referring to also.
    Thats been fixed for over a year though.

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    Re: JoP depop

    Well after it depopped for us, we were unable to locate it on scan even though you could always find the 2nd one using this method back when it was bugged.

    Guess it's gone

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    Re: JoP depop

    In my experience, it's possible for the second (kited) JoP to pop if it goes a certain amount of time after the death of the first without being killed. (Or at least without being steadily damaged--the time he depopped for my shell, we were new to sea, and had just barely killed the first one before wiping, and when our kiter was on the way back with the second one, it depopped. It was probably unclaimed, so it might be if it remains unclaimed for a certain amount of time after the first one dies.)

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    Re: JoP depop

    it should swim back to the ??? and if the one you are fighting warps, it will warp back as well. Happened to us a few times and always did that.

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    Re: JoP depop

    we had something like this happen to us once. our nin had kited one JoP all the way to the other end of sea and we had the first one down to about 30% when nin who was kiting died. he reraised and he said that JoP was wondering back slowly and then he disappeared. the one we were fighting opened his mouth to indicate that one of them was killed, and when we did finally kill it we got the drops, never had to kill that second one.

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    Re: JoP depop

    There are two trees perfect for kiting around, and you're never going to risk a depop if you make use of both of them. I'm surprised at how many shells do the whole run-one-across-the-zone-and-die strategy.

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    Re: JoP depop

    PLD/WAR can tank both at once

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    Re: JoP depop

    This has happened to us twice, once we got the drop off the first one, once we didnt get anything. GM basically said wow sucks for you guys.

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    Re: JoP depop

    Prudence will depop if you take him too far from the area he spawns in and die. You have to go really damn far though, what was your kiter doing, lol?

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    Re: JoP depop

    Like I said in the other thread, there is many large tree you can use to kite around and hold forever. The closest one you can use is in front of the Aern mission tower, near the quasilumin.


    Quote Originally Posted by Judai
    it should swim back to the ??? and if the one you are fighting warps, it will warp back as well. Happened to us a few times and always did that.
    Most NM depop 3min after reaching their spawn location, but it's different for JoP. Its spawn point seem to be the position of the 2nd prudence, not the "???". Once you kill one of them, it's still going to swim in that direction, but will despawn 3min after losing aggro

    That's how I unerderstand it, but I might be wrong since JoP has one of the weirdest behavior

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    Re: JoP depop

    We just kite the second one around the 2 bushes right by the ???. Haven't had it depop on us yet.

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