Opinions about circumsicion

[archibaldcrane]

And after reading through the thread it appears I have that 'tighter' foreskin I guess, since I can't pull it back from superman to clark kent without wanting to kill myself.

So, does the turtle-head poke out naturally and without pain when you get hard, or are you a caped-crusader all the time?

Isn't it hard to clean if you can't easily slip it back?

[Meat]

And after reading through the thread it appears I have that 'tighter' foreskin I guess, since I can't pull it back from superman to clark kent without wanting to kill myself.

So, does the turtle-head poke out naturally and without pain when you get hard, or are you a caped-crusader all the time?

Isn't it hard to clean if you can't easily slip it back?

phimosis aint it?

[Kuya]

And after reading through the thread it appears I have that 'tighter' foreskin I guess, since I can't pull it back from superman to clark kent without wanting to kill myself.

So, does the turtle-head poke out naturally and without pain when you get hard, or are you a caped-crusader all the time?

Isn't it hard to clean if you can't easily slip it back?

I don't know about him, but in my case, during erection it just slides back with no pain at all. At least for me, mine looks similar to a circumsized one when i pull the skin back, because it usually stays that way.

YAY COMFORTABLE AND MANAGEABLE FORESKIN

[Khamsin]

And after reading through the thread it appears I have that 'tighter' foreskin I guess, since I can't pull it back from superman to clark kent without wanting to kill myself.

So, does the turtle-head poke out naturally and without pain when you get hard, or are you a caped-crusader all the time?

Isn't it hard to clean if you can't easily slip it back?

phimosis aint it?

He should consider a circumcision.

[Deejay]

And after reading through the thread it appears I have that 'tighter' foreskin I guess, since I can't pull it back from superman to clark kent without wanting to kill myself.

So, does the turtle-head poke out naturally and without pain when you get hard, or are you a caped-crusader all the time?

Isn't it hard to clean if you can't easily slip it back?

Mine comes out hard, but it wasn't always like that. I used to have a lot of pain whenever I tryed to unleash the dragon since the glans gets super crazy sensitive if you never take it out.

I don't know about him, but in my case, during erection it just slides back with no pain at all. At least for me, mine looks similar to a circumsized one when i pull the skin back, because it usually stays that way.

YAY COMFORTABLE AND MANAGEABLE FORESKIN

<3 having the best of both worlds

[archibaldcrane]

Mine comes out hard, but it wasn't always like that. I used to have a lot of pain...

<3 having the best of both worlds

penis pain isn't the best of any world

[Deejay]

And after reading through the thread it appears I have that 'tighter' foreskin I guess, since I can't pull it back from superman to clark kent without wanting to kill myself.

So, does the turtle-head poke out naturally and without pain when you get hard, or are you a caped-crusader all the time?

Isn't it hard to clean if you can't easily slip it back?

phimosis aint it?

He should consider a circumcision.

I wouldn't be so quick to say that.

I used to be the same way. Basically, the skin covering your glans has a shit load of nerve endings, and when you're born it's super omg sensitive. Also, it's not like normal skin, it feels more like the skin under your eye lid or the skin in the undrside of your lips. When you get a circumsicion, the skin around your glans dries out with more exposure to the air, and "desensitizes". (making it it feel more like the normal skin around your body.)

Around last year, I started forcing myself to let it out, and the more I did it the less it hurt. Eventually I was able to pull it out whenever and it's made sex a shit load more enjoyable for me.

[Deejay]

Mine comes out hard, but it wasn't always like that. I used to have a lot of pain...

<3 having the best of both worlds

penis pain isn't the best of any world

Agreed. I never would have had this problem if i forced my glans out from early childhood. Since I waited so long, the skin covering my glans sorta got "tighter" as my dick got bigger. With time though, the pain from being so sensitive goes away as you take it out more.

[Vail]

I'm sorry for the late reply and the fairly long post full of jew stuff, I know alot of people here don't care for/about anything related to jews.

I for one am glad you posted that, regardless of timing it was relevant and interesting.

Indeed.

The background I recall having read about Dinah actually made very pointed notes about part of the reasoning behind the circumcision, besides the obvious recuperation time, was the ideal about how sex with Gentiles was supposedly more enjoyable for women because of the foreskin, blah blah, some feminist tie-in to keeping the woman down!

The other big deal about circumcision in the Old Testamant that I recall was some bit about Tziporrah arguing with an angel and/or God regarding circumcising her children as well, and how there were verses actually cut as I recall that make the story make a ton more sense. God, I wish I had that book right now, it's stuck in storage somewhere.

Interesting though, the other notes you gave, and some random browsing I did as well; that if a culture came up with this practice for whatever reasons they attribute but do not decry sexual pleasure, then how it can be religions born later are the ones that subvert the sexuality of their own followers and yet make the claims that it is the other faith that tries to inhibit pleasure.. while not actually adopting the practice widespread within their own church.. go figure. -.-

Circumcision started with the Egyptians not the jews btw (kinda sounds like you think the jews started it) Jewish people likely continued the practice because of familiarity and the storys in the bible are made to explain why.

Moses was born Aposthia (without forskin) and it's very likely that the practice of circumcision could be an effort to be more like the jews' most important prophit

as for the comments about inhibiting pleasure, I don't really buy into that: nerve endings aside- it's important to remember that it's all in your head (literally, the brain) the way pleasure is measured in the brain and sexual pleasure is set as a high mark(highest?) one thing that definately damages sexual pleasure is drug and alcohol abuse can set other things as that high mark and lower the pleasure threse-hold of sex.

Some culture/religions may do circumcision as a way to deprive pleasure, but this is likely done based off an uneducated guess. Since info that I've seen leads me to believe that the pleasure of a circumcised vs a non-circumcised is purely the difference of individuals and has nothing to do with rather they are or not circumcised. I think that people that have this performed for this reason is most unfortunate.

for sake of subject though: I'm circumcised, as was my father before, and his father before him, and so on. Any son of mine will likely be circumcised- baring any objections form the mother.

[Atlasion]

And after reading through the thread it appears I have that 'tighter' foreskin I guess, since I can't pull it back from superman to clark kent without wanting to kill myself.

So, does the turtle-head poke out naturally and without pain when you get hard, or are you a caped-crusader all the time?

Isn't it hard to clean if you can't easily slip it back?

I used to have something similar to this when I was younger. I remember not being able to pull foreskin back fully without pain. In time (probably thanks to masturbation and sex), this problem ceased and I acheived what Kuya is going on about.

[Hitoshura]

11 pages of talking about penis...

I hope you guys make up for this with 22 pages plus in the Fuck or duck, stat!

[pohibaba]

I was circumsized and wished I hadn't been now that I'm an adult. My son(s) aren't going to be for some of the reasons mentioned above: more pleasure for the man and woman. Plus, I've heard horror stories of circumcisions going bad and there being too much skin cut off, making erections horribly painful. Now, I know that isn't exactly common, but it's gotta be near as common as random penile infections caused to it not being cut.

[Not Kuno]

Nope, not gonna happen to my kids. I'll let them choose whatever they want.

Same thing I'll do. I won't make any decisions for my child till he's 18. He'll decide whether or not he wants to go to school, whether or not he wants to go to the dentist, doctor, (most likely therapist at this point.) Whether or not he feels like eating his vegetables, going to bed at night, behaving correctly, saying thank you, being respectful to his elders.

Way to put words into my mouth. I'll let my child weather or not they want to choose an irriversable procedure. I don't see how an unbiased view that lets them make a choice later in life means I'm incapable of raising a child.

[Faris]

Damn, how'd i miss this topic. Circumsicion is best done you're really young, as an adult it may give you permanent scars. Plus, its hygiene, gives more pleasure, and looks "prettier". Uncirumsized dicks can give you diseases like mentioned, and not many people clean their dicks after pissing, so better safe than sorry. I'd cry if I get a disease on my penis, its my baby;; and hey, like i mentioned it gives more pleasure for both (or so i read/asked) because of the curves, and no thick skin to cover the motion. OH YEAH!

as for this:

Same thing I'll do. I won't make any decisions for my child till he's 18. He'll decide whether or not he wants to go to school, whether or not he wants to go to the dentist, doctor, (most likely therapist at this point.) Whether or not he feels like eating his vegetables, going to bed at night, behaving correctly, saying thank you, being respectful to his elders.

This is the kind of mentality that will ruin a child...you dont just give kids that much freedom, they're kids for God's sake, all kids need to be guided, need to be taught, and disciplned. We're not animals. If that was you being sarcastic, then oops.

[Stumblingdrunk]

its hygiene, gives more pleasure, and looks "prettier". Uncirumsized dicks can give you diseases like mentioned, and not many people clean their dicks after pissing, so better safe than sorry. I'd cry if I get a disease on my penis, its my baby;; and hey, like i mentioned it gives more pleasure for both (or so i read/asked)

Correct me if i'm wrong Kuya but i believe this was the whole point of the thread. The truth is all of the reasons you stated are either entirely subjective or just have no factual evidence to support them, not if you can actually evaluate the studies mentioned intelligently. What i assumed Kuya was upset by was the promoting of something based on misinformation, and the spreading of misinformation in order to protect something that is nothing more than tradition. Aside from continuing the tradition, the promotion of unproven medical theories attaches a stigma to those who do not conform, and I would assume this also was something Kuya was opposed to

[Kuya]

So, umm, why did people suddenly pull out the: "You're the parent so you have to act like it by circumsicing your kid!". I'd really would like to know what the logic or dire importance of circumsicing kids is when there is no clear benefit to it. How about people just stick with cultural reasons instead of constantly saying it's for health reasons that have not been proven.

It's a fascinating tactic really, trying to imply that somehow, by leaving the option of circumsicion to your offspring when they are older, it makes you a terrible parent because you are leaving a decision to them, which most likely has little relevance to their healths. BUT STILL, YOU'RE THE PARENT! YOU HAVE TO MAKE UNECESARY DECISIONS THAT ALTER YOUR OFFSPRINGS APPERANCE OR ELSE YOU'RE A BAD PARENT!

Please, sing me a different tune.

edit: To the poster above me, yes, the one you are quoting is an example of the reasons why i made the thread.

[VersaceFenrir]

I'd cry if I get a disease on my penis, its my baby;; .

hahahhahahhahahha

[Kuya]

I have a proposition, sans mentioning females, how about all the parents start tattooing and giving their kids piercings instead of leaving this decision to them when they are older. I mean, you're the parent and you need to make these choices for them before they go through such painful procedures. Circumsicion, tattooing, piercings, all of these are comestic procedures, except of course when the first is needed due to complications, so then why circumsicion and not tattooing or piercings for the boy? I'll tell you why, it's because you are arbitrarely choosing to perform surgery on the kid just because you want to, it has little or nothing to do with health reasons. The parent, because he was circumsized, wants his kid to be circumsized to. Don't try to justify it with research that has not been proven. There is no clear advantage and there is no clear necesity.

The option to circumsized or not is up to the parent, that is the reality, whether i like it or not, but please, do me a favor and don't try to say there is a clear advantage to ir or that you need to circumsize the kid or else you're not a good parent.

[Faris]

Circumscicion is better. Its good for my kids, and i will do it. He wont hate me or it wont effect his life in a negative way whatsoever...Why is it so bad to guide your child? guide him, through culture, religion (OH GOD I DIDNT!) and tradition, i myself arent too fond of tradition, i take the nice bits and leave the rest.

[Kuya]

Circumscicion is better. Its good for my kids, and i will do it. He wont hate me or it wont effect his life in a negative way whatsoever...Why is it so bad to guide your child? guide him, through culture, religion (OH GOD I DIDNT!) and tradition, i myself arent too fond of tradition, i take the nice bits and leave the rest.

That's fine. I never argued agaisnt religion, culture or tradition in this specific thread. I don't agree with it for different reasons. However, do me a favor and explain the bolded.