Information on New and Existing Jobs

[BRP]

I hope they also realize SCH could use some of the basic status cures as a subjob, aside from blink and stoneskin. Paralyna, and Silena alone would greatly increase it's usability.

What would be ideal is additional white magic(status cures, defensive spells) with White Grimoire and additional black magical spells(Bind, Blind, Sleep) with Black Grimoire. Perhaps make it limited to SCH to prevent it completely replacing WHM and BLM subs. Though... the idea of a melee/SCH being able to cast Sleep with B-rating sounds very cool to me.

[jibini]

If I read it right, they are adding more levels of acc. bonus, subtle blow, and clear mind, or are they clarifying something old(I doubt it)?

Think it's just a clarifaction of which tiers of the job traits each job has, since they just as show up as the basic (tier unlisted) trait in the menus.

[Ehran]

Ninja
Also, an ability that lowers enmity for a short period of time, and then shoots it back up to its original level.

Two uses I see for this are:

-Use to get the mob to turn to allow THF or /THF to SATA on you then get all hate back plus a bunch extra.

-Allow for a breather to get shadows back up and let timers cool a bit.

Don't forget the "I'll never eat Fang Rush in another merit party, so help me God" use.

[Akashimo]

I love how thf doesn't even get mentioned by SE >_>;
At least consider lowering Accomplice's recast timer ; ;
Or more options to use bolts and higher skill v.v;


as for rdm...
higher sword skill or ex ws, everything else is just like... the whm hauby or carby vs garuda at 75.

[Indalecia]

DRK
Aspir II just so I can hear every BLM QQ and scream bloody murder.

SMN
"No comment at this time."
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Oh fuck you SE, FUCK YOU!

[LinktheDeme]

I personally think that SMN just needs a refreshga BP and they'd be perma fixed.(only 2 mp a tick to par with yagudo drinks) But that won't happen

[Khamsin]

I love how thf doesn't even get mentioned by SE >_>;
At least consider lowering Accomplice's recast timer ; ;
Or more options to use bolts and higher skill v.v;


as for rdm...
higher sword skill or ex ws, everything else is just like... the whm hauby or carby vs garuda at 75.

Hey, Carby probably spends more time out than all my other avatars combined! He's like the single most useful avatar from 1-75, except for when he tries to rape you during Waking the Beast. The little bastard.

But yeah, I know you were talking about damage.

[Indalecia]

Fuck that, last thing I want is Refreshga.

[Sagacious Sundi]

Fuck that, last thing I want is Refreshga.

Am I the only one who wants Carby to get an AoE Invis/Sneak (Deodorize too, why not) to fill in the void for his lack of a 30-40ish BP? I even came up with a name for it! (Refracting Ruby)

Anyway, thank you, Elmer.

[Indalecia]

Fuck that, last thing I want is Refreshga.

Am I the only one who wants Carby to get an AoE Invis/Sneak (Deodorize too, why not) to fill in the void for his lack of a 30-40ish BP? I even came up with a name for it! (Refracting Ruby)

Anyway, thank you, Elmer.

That would be sex.

[Tobatobu]

Fuck that, last thing I want is Refreshga.

Am I the only one who wants Carby to get an AoE Invis/Sneak (Deodorize too, why not) to fill in the void for his lack of a 30-40ish BP? I even came up with a name for it! (Refracting Ruby)

Anyway, thank you, Elmer.

That would be pretty cool.

WHM - Maybe make Protectra V useful?

[ronin sparthos]

That'd require making defense better

[SamanosukeShiva]

MNK: mmmmmm Kicking stance+Spharai on foot........

[Tricen]

Ninja
Also, an ability that lowers enmity for a short period of time, and then shoots it back up to its original level.

Two uses I see for this are:

-Use to get the mob to turn to allow THF or /THF to SATA on you then get all hate back plus a bunch extra.

-Allow for a breather to get shadows back up and let timers cool a bit.

Don't forget the "I'll never eat Fang Rush in another merit party, so help me God" use.

Horrid Roar? Get a lot of hate, use that ability, and then SE LA for the hate back. So when you get roared, pop that ability to get hate back to where it was.

[Kaisha]

Horrid Roar? Get a lot of hate, use that ability, and then SE LA for the hate back. So when you get roared, pop that ability to get hate back to where it was.

I was under the impression the JA would be set up in a way where your hate drops, then comes back up automatically after, say, 10 seconds. Now if it was toggleable so you had two sets of hates as you appear to be making it out as.....that'd shake things up a bit.

[Ferien]

The new jobs were designed to be strong support jobs. Before, everyone would be subbing Ninja or White mage, and this was meant to change all that.

Just about every dancer ends up subbing ninja, and most scholars I see sub white mage. <_< Never see /DNC outside of solo though, and /SCH? Never seen at all.

WHM/SCH isn't bad

[ronin sparthos]

Whm/Sch is pretty handy in salvage.

[LD]

The only way this MNK JA thing could be worthwhile would be if they subtracted one punch and made kicks 100% without lowering the power of the punch (and maybe making the kick a bit more powerful). With Dunes and such, that could actually create more damage in the long run (and if they make the JA low enough, make buying kung fus and wu longs seem a bit more practical.) Trade-off is you're losing a potential DA, destroyer crits don't apply to kicks, and kick merits amount to jack & shit, unless they leave in the KA chance and let you kick a 2nd time (which is possible, but plan for the worst and hope for the best). A sister ability for Penance would be very nice, since it could even the ‘damage/TP given’ playing field. BLM has been winning that game for the last 4 years. Of course, that depends entirely on how powerful it is. Also, still waiting on that fucking Guard fix (yea, FIX, not adjustment. Put that in your semantics pipe and smoke it). -_-

As a MNK, the WAR thing doesn't bother me and I hope it works out for them. As long as they still take damage, it's not as much of a stab in the back as some other abilities. Yea Seigan, Fuck You!

I have been praying for WHM to get a teleport spell for the leyline in Wajoam since TOA hit. PLEEEASSE let one of the new ports be this. As for the past ports, it sounds nice, but where the Hell are they gunna position the end points? I had been thinking that the Walk of Echoes would be a kind of hub between Maws and they'd just put a port point there. As things stand, where could they put it that isn't practically as good as a region port? Beastman Strongholds maybe (Oztroja, et al.)? I mean, it's possible, but that seems a little too hot of a place to have people randomly appearing, and there's still the problem of where the hell they'd put it.

Unresisted lvl 3 SCs sound nice, but at the end of the day, I just want BLM to have Robel-Akbel's Ultima. Gurrrl, that shit was mutha fuckin' tiz-zight.

Higher SC accuracy (via new BLM spell) + 300TP + new SAM JA + Med + Meikyo Shisui = How are they unbreaking SAM again? I mean, yea, it sounds bad ass, but dude, really?...Really?......

Fuck yea, Sneakjutsu.

I really hope that when they say "will include abilities from monsters in the past" they also mean "but will not be limited to these." There are 30+ unused BLU spells, most of which would be fucking awesome. If killing a shitload of inordinately difficult mobs to get moves with ridiculous conditions with an unreliable learn rate didn’t bother me the first 100 times, it wont bother me the 40+ times they have planned for me in the future. And by ‘bother’ I mean ‘stop.’

I feel Scholars were meant to nuke along with their Helixes, so the spells themselves may not need any adjustment, but only allowing one helix at a time among many players is too restrictive. They should really use the BLM elemental DOT system so that at least 3 SCH can get the most out of their abilities. As a sub, it absolutely needs Stoneskin, or something equally effective to be worthwhile. For merits, Haste is the only thing that could get it in regularly, but I finally came to understand why they might not give it to SCH: it can be used on non-PT members. Begs the question though, if people don’t mind Erase being PT only, would they mind Haste being the same? As much as I enjoy a haste from someone during Besieged or Campaign or just running around, Cures, prot/shell, and status buffs are much more appreciated. They help alleviate a potentially deadly situation and (at least in Prot/shells's case) generally last a long enough time for the effects to be felt.

[Takiwaki]

nice info.. i dont get mnk though ? whats the use of doing that? unless kick attacks get a major buff

[Neosutra]

God damnit, I fucking knew they were going to implement the damage reflect for pld like this, that screws the hell out of Aegis.

Oh great, now I can reflect the 10-15 damage shield blocks I get on aegis, wooooooooooooooo.