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    you ruined the episode for me

    waiting for it to be put on allusee.org or something.

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    I don't think Weaver has ever run into John. I know they came close at the doctor's office, but did they actually see each other?

    Cameron is probably his personal bodyguard or confidant in the future. According to T3 and T4, John's married.

    I liked how they named the episode after the first line said by Cromartie. I liked Cromartie too, especially how it seemed like he tried to accomplish his mission even if it meant going against Skynet. If he left Ellison Terminator to do what it was supposed to, the outcome of this episode might have been different.

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    Was that the last episode, or how many are left?

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    Anybody else notice how sad Cameron looked when she killed Cromarte? Made me kinda sad he was gonna die cause he is a great character and played very well... that evil smile of his is kinda non-human'ish. Maybe he rebuilds himself again!?
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    I doubt it because Sarah smashed his chip. Kinda sucks that it got killed, since he was the only terminator who was given a consistent role. The others get destroyed quickly.

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    Think one or two more, but 13 extra are in production. S2 was only flagged for 9 episodes at the start, but Fox ordered 13 more (the rest of the season). The show is fantastic & I think it's better than its other competition (of the shows I watch), so hope it gets more seasons even though it doesn't get as many viewers as Fox wants.

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    was defiantly one of the best episodes this season. Though the outcome of the episode was pretty sad.

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    I noticed the sad look on Camren's face when Cromartie went down, and Camren has in the past hidden stuff from them, it is completely possible that she gave Sarah a fake chip.

    I'm also confused that Cromartie didn't kill Sarah at any point in this episode, just always seemed weird how Cromartie wouldn't kill anyone that helps John survive his attacks (since it's almost always the same people that stop him)


    I'm also kinda wondering how Ellison working for Weaver is gonna turn out, cause he seems pretty set on helping the Conners with stoping the future war, but he also has been pretty keen on helping Weaver.

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    I think Cromartie wouldn't kill anyone that he believed would lead him to John. Remember that he didn't kill Ellison in the first season and saved Ellison from a Terminator because he believed Ellison would lead him to John, which he actually did.

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    Well, at the moment, all Ellison knows is that Weaver is hunting for terminators. He doesn't know what she wants them or and isn't aware of the computer system she is building. I did lol at how they were portraying Cameron when she went to talk to John. Obviously he augmented her code so she is also a sex-bot. <.<

    As for being married in the future, I haven't been paying attention to what is being said about T4, but I thought the series was supposed to ignore T3 pretty much? The only exception has been the comment that Sarah was supposed to have died of cancer.

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    I remember Cameron hiding a chip before. I'm guessing that she gave Sarah the wrong one. There is no way he is gone yet, we'll see him again down the road.

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    He's baaaccckk! And giving off a freakier vibe than I could imagine... they really set up that scene so well & made it way eerie, glad to see Cromartie again though. Episode wasn't that great aside the ending imo, the whole chip thing being a fake lead was "meh" when they should really of done more w/Elleson & Weaver. That side of the story is starting to get really tense.

    If Elleson (sp) doesn't finally realize what she is trying to do then he is an idiot. idk how many clues he needs before he finally figures out the AI is for skynet

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    Was this the first time they showed Riley having an ulterior motive for spending time with John? I missed a few episodes in the middle of the season but saw the last 2-3 and don't recall anything of the like. The Asian chick who says she's there to make sure John stays focused has been giving me bad vibes for awhile now and I don't see how her using Riley is exactly helping John to stay focused...

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    I was wondering, is Riley from the future as well with Reece's girlfriend? Seems to me that she either was filled in with knowledge of the future and working as a spy (seems too collected for knowing what happens to mankind except for her meltdown briefly) or she is from the future and playing dumb for John, still working as a spy. Cromartie's smile again, made that's just creepy lol, glad he's back though lol.

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    I think she is from the future. She made a comment about "how there are a lot of mirrors in this time" or something along those lines. Glad they actually spiced up the chubby chick, she was getting on my nerves for a while and was wondering what the reason to keep her on was.

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    I think Riley came back with... Jesse(? I always blank on her name; Derek's girlfriend). In the episode Jesse explains that she's back to look out for John because she's afraid of what Cameron's influence will turn John into in the future. I think Riley is there to get close to John, see how Cameron is interacting with him and if possible blunt the effect she can have on him.

    Glad to see Cromartie back. There's something about that actor I really like. He pulls off creepy really well.

    Maybe you guys can help me out with another aspect of this show, namely the writing in the basement. When we saw it last week I thought it was something Sarah was doing while she was sleepwalking, but last night Derek said it was something "that poor bastard wrote while he was bleeding out." Is the poor bastard in question the red-headed guy who came back to warn them about the power plant?

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    I'm wondering if Skynet purposely let Cameron "be captured and reprogrammed" so she could be close to John and influence his future decisions.

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    I figured Riley came back with her. A few of her comments 'There are so many mirrors in this world' just don't fit unless she was from the future.

    Here is the ultimate mind job though. Is Riley metal or not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AzazaelFenrir View Post
    Here is the ultimate mind job though. Is Riley metal or not?
    I really doubt it. Riley has showed a depth of emotion well beyond what any of the terminators thus far can mimic, even Cameron, and she's supposed to be special somehow. On top of that, I don't think Jesse would work with a machine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deftscythe View Post
    Maybe you guys can help me out with another aspect of this show, namely the writing in the basement. When we saw it last week I thought it was something Sarah was doing while she was sleepwalking, but last night Derek said it was something "that poor bastard wrote while he was bleeding out." Is the poor bastard in question the red-headed guy who came back to warn them about the power plant?
    I can't remember if it was the same guy, but one episode they came back to find a broken door/window and a guy dead at the base of the wall where he had wrote it in his own blood.

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    Just saw the episode and it was good. Was that the last for the season or what? Iirc, last year around finals (now) the last episode aired. Hope it continues and fox chances the damn time slot...

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    I watched about half of it but was busy taking care of the nephew. Review said that Cameron found out what the three dots means. What do they mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Null View Post
    I watched about half of it but was busy taking care of the nephew. Review said that Cameron found out what the three dots means. What do they mean?
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    The dots were stars. When a terminator traveled back in time it went too far from its intended year. When it stepped out, the first thing it did was to check for the year (1930ish), it did it by looking at the stars and measuring the vectors. Its target was some mayor from 2010, but plans got fucked up because Cameron figured the whole thing out and killed it

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