Randomer Question Thread

[Leeto]

WHM second ring slot (currently tamas + serket)

after getting ixion cape (yes I'm using it on whm fulltime screw errant), my hp in idle is ~720ish and even lower when curing since I swap out seveneyes. yay for being taru. Serket ring and morgana's choker are the only other items lowering my hp at the moment. I'm thinking of dropping the serket.

The two suggestions I've had are troopers (used to use this, honestly it kinda screams mediocre to me) and serene (semi expensive). Are there any other ring options I'm overlooking?

Actually I know what you mean about troopers but it isn't and if you're losing -EMN from dropping your errant it would probably be helpful. Holy crap on your HP btw. Merit it ? I might invest in a serene but I doubt it.

Ixion cape I can see as being fantastic for a BLM, and of course its very nice for a WHM, just why when you're a low HP race do you want a convert piece with less -EMN on than errant. Macro it in for Cure V but I see Ixion cape more for BLM or BRD. Yes the MND boost is great but losing 20 HP, 10MP and -3EMN for 5 MND I don't think is worth it full time.

I'm a hume - my suggestion would be drop the serket for Troopers, merit HP and level SCH for a sub if you haven't already. /SCH gives me another 30-40 HP over /SMN for example and is far more useful.

In HH bomb, errant cape, nobles, blessed hands and trousers, Tamas, troopers, Dryad/staff strap, ajari, hierach's, blessed +1 feet/clogs, magnetic/loquacious earrings, walmart turban etc I'm slightly lower on MND than I'd like to be but I do have templar/num +1 if I really need it and other MND pieces to macro in. However I'm 1041 HP as 75 WHM/SCH and 1076 MP. If I need to I can send my MP to crazy levels with MP gear (zenith, blessed body, rostrums, rings, medal, necklace) to start with and then go back to standard gear. I do have 8 MP merits though.

My devotion macro gets me giving over 300 MP back to someone - I carry a lot of gear.

As a taru if you can hit 900 hp I'm sure life would get safer.

I have never owned an errant cape, I used altruistic before I got ixion on white mage. ixion's -2 enm and 5 mnd bonus make me not want to give up using it because of the hp loss which is why i'm trying to find an alternative way to raise my hp. I'd prefer to be above 750 all the time (perfectly fine with that really). I'm definitely not meriting HP but I am working on sch sub. I guess I'll see how it goes after I finish that.

[Prons]

Sorry to interupt what you guys were already talking about, but

I'm Prons and I'm level 69 bard, and I'm really starting to look forward to doing endgame stuff. The events I'm most interested in are Einherjar and Assault. I'm not a veteran player by any means, I've been playing since the Wings of the Godess pack came out and I'm looking forward to 75.

Today I finished getting the runic portals, are there any other important things I should do in preparation for the last 5 levels and the endgame?

Another question I have, what's different in endgame compared to exp partying? For example, am I going to need to use songs that I wouldn't normaly use in experience partying? For example am I going to need to prepare macros for the Threnody songs? Or is it going to be pretty simlar to partying in terms of attk acc mp and sleep songs?

Hoping to be a good (or at the very least well prepared) high level bard

[shaddix]

I don't understand the math behind corsairs roll being better than sam roll assuming infinite mobs D:

hello prons, yeah threnodies are nice make macros :D

[Leeto]

I don't understand the math behind corsairs roll being better than sam roll assuming infinite mobs D:

hello prons, yeah threnodies are nice make macros :D

I wasn't aware there was math behind it, I always figured that if you're killing faster than mobs can respawn that there's no point in making your killing speed faster, therefore making corsair's roll the best choice. Could be totally wrong though.

[Burginator]

I don't understand the math behind corsairs roll being better than sam roll assuming infinite mobs D:

hello prons, yeah threnodies are nice make macros :D

I wasn't aware there was math behind it, I always figured that if you're killing faster than mobs can respawn that there's no point in making your killing speed faster, therefore making corsair's roll the best choice. Could be totally wrong though.

Yer basically spot on. COR roll actually slows your kill speed, but gives you a very noticeable xp increase. All in all, COR roll's 15% (average) XP bonus will outweigh the bonus from another melee song, unless you find a mythical merit camp that can house a brd/cor party with DDs worth a shit. (Hint: Any DDs worth a shit with a good brd+cor will run out of mobs using drk/war or drk/sam rolls at any camp.)

[onigami]

WHM second ring slot (currently tamas + serket)

after getting ixion cape (yes I'm using it on whm fulltime screw errant), my hp in idle is ~720ish and even lower when curing since I swap out seveneyes. yay for being taru. Serket ring and morgana's choker are the only other items lowering my hp at the moment. I'm thinking of dropping the serket.

The two suggestions I've had are troopers (used to use this, honestly it kinda screams mediocre to me) and serene (semi expensive). Are there any other ring options I'm overlooking?

when i had tamas i wore bq ring. after i dropped it i switched to troopers+bq ring. i usually have 900-1000hp now on whm depending on sub.

[fishstix]

"Supertank Method" - seeing this phrase used more frequently and i am curious as to exactly what Supertanking is ?

I'll bite on trying to answer this one.

Supertanking is the term for strategy in which knowledge of enmity rules are utilized in order to deal with multiple mobs. Basically the "supertank" can aggro multiple mobs and as long as no enmity is generated by the tank on any of the mobs (no attacks, debuffs, etc), curing that tank will also generate no enmity on the healers. This allows multiple healers to cure bomb a tank without generating any enmity on themselves while the mobs attacking the supertank can be pulled off one at a time. Typically Supertanks prefer to use /BLU for Cocoon and load up on DEF gear. Supertanks can be buffed by Phalanx, Minnes, etc to reach very high defense levels. Some of the more common fights I see supertanking in are the Divine Might quest and the CoP Mammet missions.

This is pretty much right. I believe it started being used in FFXI after the strategy was suggested for the CoP Mammet missions. It actually has much wider applications, but the basic idea is that as long as a mob is yellow and never turns red then they will never gain hate on anyone besides the player that originally aggroed the mob. I have in the past used this in Salvage to deal with Hammerblow's room, and in other select situations.

It can also be used more broadly to mean any fight where you have one tank for more than one mob and concentrate all healing on that one tank. Jailer of Prudence can be tanked in this manner.

I'm not sure if this is true for everywhere, but in at least CoP 6-4, if you supertank and a SMN summons and releases their avatar, this breaks the other rules and the SMN pulls all hate from the adds.

[Valyana]

All in all, COR roll's 15% (average) XP bonus will outweigh the bonus from another melee song, unless you find a mythical merit camp that can house a brd/cor party with DDs worth a shit.

I believe that even with infinite mobs, a BRD+COR party with decent DDs should already be killing fast enough that losing one DD roll won't slow down kills by 15%. It's a different story at lower levels, but as long as you're killing fast enough to keep chain it's probably a good trade to take slightly slower kills for much higher xp/kill.

[Valyana]

I'm not sure if this is true for everywhere, but in at least CoP 6-4, if you supertank and a SMN summons and releases their avatar, this breaks the other rules and the SMN pulls all hate from the adds.

This is true in all BCs, and is also true of other pet jobs. I'm not sure if it's true in the wild.

[Prons]

I have dagger skill at 190, how far should I get it before the bard maat fight? Should I try and cap it out? I know sword would be best for the fight, but well, I already have dagger at 190. 8)

[shaddix]

I did my maat fight on bard and I don't remember missing with sword at 191.

[Dayle]

If you /toss a Mannequin, can you rebuy it from the NPC? In short, I'm looking to consolidate storage, and have all 8 mannequins currently. I don't want to drop one if I'll never be able to get it again (should I ever want to).

I just took the risk to find out. You can rebuy mannequins you've dropped.

[Yuri-G]

Is it just me or is inviting a 68 RDM to main heal a SMN PLD BLU THF WAR party in Caedarva on Imps a bastardly thing to do? Please pardon the livejournalish entry but that was one of the most horrifying XP experiences of my life.

[Leeto]

shouldn't really be that bad. WAR has either third eye or utsu, PLD and BLU can heal themselves/others, SMN can help cure too x_x however that party setup in itself kinda sucks shit, no brd. not to mention most players don't always utilize the things I mentioned but yeah

[Ace-o-fire]

As a Dragoon, should i be loading up on as much Acc gear as other jobs? Or can i add in attack and Str gear? currently level 43

[Wolfknight]

As a Dragoon, should i be loading up on as much Acc gear as other jobs? Or can i add in attack and Str gear? currently level 43

acc gear and meat unless your somehow capping acc then pick up some attack or str

[Yuri-G]

shouldn't really be that bad. WAR has either third eye or utsu, PLD and BLU can heal themselves/others, SMN can help cure too x_x however that party setup in itself kinda sucks shit, no brd. not to mention most players don't always utilize the things I mentioned but yeah

If the SMN hadn't been afk and we had set up silena/blindna assignments it might have been okay I guess, but even with capped Enfeebling and Auster's + Spider Torque I couldn't touch the Imps with Silence. Maybe I'll come back once I'm 75 with some Enfeebling merits and shut those punks the hell up.

I feel like a primadonna for not joining parties without a BRD or COR so I try them out but I usually regret it honestly.

[Eldelphia]

I have never owned an errant cape, I used altruistic before I got ixion on white mage. ixion's -2 enm and 5 mnd bonus make me not want to give up using it because of the hp loss which is why i'm trying to find an alternative way to raise my hp. I'd prefer to be above 750 all the time (perfectly fine with that really). I'm definitely not meriting HP but I am working on sch sub. I guess I'll see how it goes after I finish that.

Oh fair enough, for some reason from what you typed I thought you'd stopped wearing an errant for this. If you don't have one then yeah, this would be pretty nice.

As for HP, I guess it depends what you do, but I'm far happier on my WHM with HP being over 1k. I suspect years of dynamis is the cause

Question of my own to fellow WHMs...

Is Martyr worth bothering with?

I'm recapping my Group 2 merits on WHM right now, up to Shellra V x4 with 3/5 merits ready to go for the last upgrade. I intend to take Devotion up at least one more to 3 and have a token Protectra V merit. The choice is

Shellra V x 5
Protectra V x 1
Martyr x 1
Devotion x 3

or Shellra V x 5
Protectra V x 1
Devotion x 4

I haven't been at all interested in Martyr before tbh, so I just wondered how people found it?

[Pepper]

In before I'm fucking stupid.

But

What the hell do I have to do so I can type while still running, at the moment I can only do it while auto running but I'm sure before I could do it while still holding forward.
Fucking toon just stops everytime I type which is pissing me off. Had to re-install when I got a new mobo and I cant remember

halp

[Siralin]

How long (on average) would it take someone to obtain 15k Therion Ichor with the new update?