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  1. #4441
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    I almost never haste myself on whitemage; although this is because I'm not usually doing haste cycles on more than 3 people and don't need self-haste to keep the cycle up without dropping it.

    I also tend to use cure IV more than V (good enmity + less overcuring = more realized efficiency ftw), so I don't generally find myself needing to cast the same cure back to back without it being on cooldown. I will haste myself before cycling raise III's or if I'm holding 3 mobs with repose (you can hold 3 unhasted, but it can be touch and go.)

  2. #4442
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    I didn't mean to imply that I'm one to spam Cure V, I was just giving an example of the types of spells whose recasts are relatively high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by el_tio View Post
    What's Kraken Club have to do with weaponskills?
    I think he was just pointing out the fact that even if you happen to miss,you'll still only swing 8 times. Don't really think there's a reason to believe its any diff for WS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by el_tio View Post
    What's Kraken Club have to do with weaponskills?
    It's because you can only attack 8 times per combat round. Watch someone dual wielding a k-club, it will never swing more than 7 times. A ws is also considered a combat round, so double attack can never proc on Asuran Fists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amele View Post
    I almost never haste myself on whitemage; although this is because I'm not usually doing haste cycles on more than 3 people and don't need self-haste to keep the cycle up without dropping it.

    I also tend to use cure IV more than V (good enmity + less overcuring = more realized efficiency ftw), so I don't generally find myself needing to cast the same cure back to back without it being on cooldown. I will haste myself before cycling raise III's or if I'm holding 3 mobs with repose (you can hold 3 unhasted, but it can be touch and go.)
    Agreed. I use WHM basically only for Salvage, meriting and some events. I rarely find myself needing the cast time down on anything besides Haste, oddly enough.

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    I generally only use C4, but mostly just because my g/f's macros are funky and her C4 is where I'd put C5 if I was a WHM so I generally use C4 on accident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drwaffles View Post
    I didn't mean to imply that I'm one to spam Cure V, I was just giving an example of the types of spells whose recasts are relatively high.
    I didn't mean to imply I thought you did I rarely use it, unless cure IV is on cooldown or someone really needs 800hp.

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    Quick question: Has there been enmity testing done with Marduk's Jubbah? It's kind of strange that Enlil's Gambison has enmity -1, but Marduk's Jubbah doesn't have any -enmity; and is the only piece in the set without it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palom View Post
    Quick question: Has there been enmity testing done with Marduk's Jubbah? It's kind of strange that Enlil's Gambison has enmity -1, but Marduk's Jubbah doesn't have any -enmity; and is the only piece in the set without it.
    http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/showp...&postcount=485
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaeko View Post
    We did the same for Marduk body but found no hidden Enmity Change. Wearing body Marduk body and Marduk legs resulted in the same -4 enmity on legs alone.

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    Ahh thanks. I was doing searches for Jubbah and turning up nothing ><

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    Haste just has seemed like an odd conundrum for me. If I have a RDM with me then I have refresh, so I can spare the 40 MP. But then I also have help for Haste so I only have to cover a few people and thus get it more easily.

    I've found with only 3, it's best to do myself last. This way if I'm being observant I should be able to get tank with it still up, and I get the bonus all the way. If I do myself first, then I wind up having to deviate from my cycle and losing someone at the end, but if I do myself last then if I interrupt, we don't lose DoT because I couldn't get to someone fast, then get back to myself and it'll be up longer after. Still works for the "oh no icon I need to haste" reason too.

    Haven't quite tested this doing more/without refresh of any type.

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    I was curious if anyone knew that if you used the 14 day free trial they have out now, that if you can get the 30 day free trial from a new CD key on the same account? I really doubt you can get both but my friend is trying to.

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    I did a search for this but couldn't find an answer... If you are dual wielding sapara of trials and a vorpal sword do your WS points count towards both latents?

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    No, WS points count only for the main-handed weapon. Whichever is in the main hand will be the weapon gaining the points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falisa View Post
    I was curious if anyone knew that if you used the 14 day free trial they have out now, that if you can get the 30 day free trial from a new CD key on the same account? I really doubt you can get both but my friend is trying to.
    If I understand it right, I think you can, but you'd have to enter a CC# at this point.

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    Is there any way to enhance the NIN debuffs potency? Want to get the most out of these for when I try to solo Marids to work on parrying.

    Stacking more ninjutsu skill will increase odds of landing yeah? Second question is probably stupid because it's most likely like every other magic skill but just double checking to be sure.

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    Don't mega-flame me if I'm wrong, but I'm fairly sure that Ele staves work with NIN debuffs. But, of course, they're gonna reset your TP, so it's up to you whether you want to go that route or not. As for pure stat boosts for potency, I'm not really sure. : (

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    Yeah I'd want to avoid switching into staves for them, looking for other stats that may have been tested that I missed that could effect potency or something, possibly duration too?

  19. #4459
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    which SAM af is worth upgrading. Was thinking hands, but probably wouldn't use over alkies. Doesn't the head have +5 str? Can replace my wyvern helm and save me a slot. Also makes sense i guess since its one of the only 2 pieces of sam af i bothered to quest

  20. #4460
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cream Soda View Post
    which SAM af is worth upgrading. Was thinking hands, but probably wouldn't use over alkies. Doesn't the head have +5 str? Can replace my wyvern helm and save me a slot. Also makes sense i guess since its one of the only 2 pieces of sam af i bothered to quest
    Legs and Head are decent shura replacements if you don't wanna get the abjs since acc on SAM WSes is so high naturally, or if you want to save a wyvern helm slot like you said. Hachiryu legs obviously better if you can get them.

    Hands I wouldn't bother with, alky's are better, but some people like them.

    I'd go head => legs => done if anything. Rest is underwhelming.

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