Randomer Question Thread

[DWol]

5 cure cast is a waste since it caps and /sch you should already hit cap with cure clogs and loq and 2 merits(and who uses other subs these days), protectra is a waste, martyr is mostly a waste but i guess it has some application somewhere

Link for tests?

Not trying to doubt you, and I know that the tests have been done and posted on bg forums before, but I can't for the life of me find them anymore. And I recall twice already in this thread, people have asked for the tests (back a few pages) and had it buried underneath other questions.

[Koyuki]

Been curious about this for a while, Enkidus Leggings or Fuma sune-ate for sam?

[FailureMidgard]

Been curious about this for a while, Enkidus Leggings or Fuma sune-ate for sam?

Enkidu's probably if 3dex=3acc for you.
Tossup if 3dex=2acc for you.

Really depends on your accuracy, haste, dex from the rest of your gear, basically.

[VivixKujata]

Are the mobs that assist Bloodcrown Brradhod in Blood-Bathed Crown SCNM sleepable by any sort of sleep?

[Dracont]

Do hunter's bracer's +1 need to on when barrage is fired or only when activating barrage to get the extra shot? Link to tests/discussions appreciated.

[Tsuko_Asura]

Optimal 75 Paladin Great Sword? Considering Spinning Slash would be the weapon skill of choice, and that's a jump from 2.5 to 3.0, I'd think Martial Sword would be a force to be reckoned with. Though, the base damage(76) is pretty lackluster when compared to Subduer, who's delay is identical, has a 6% critical hit rate increase, while sporting 85 base damage. And then there's Perdu Sword, who's got a slightly higher delay, slightly lower base damage(84), but 12 attack and 5 accuracy attached to it.

Thoughts? I'm thinking either Martial or Subduer.

EDIT: Just noticed that Algol is the only reasonable great sword available to paladin that can achieve a 6-hit through so-so means(Aurum Cuirass/Rajas), so I'm guessing if Rajas is available, Algol would be the overall winner. For the sake of, most likely, holding on to my Sattva, an assessment of the above choices would still be appreciated.

[Bishop1]

I've done it with gondo-shizunori and a dex build many times. I will say it works much better if you have 2 bards..you definitely want a madrigal. It works out just fine if you've got good enough gear for it, but I prefer greataxe for sure...or to just go dragoon

2 brds is 2006. My merit party is usually WAR SAM DRG BRD COR RDM. March Min Hunter Corsairs roll.

[Wolfknight]

2 brds is 2006. My merit party is usually WAR SAM DRG BRD COR RDM. March Min Hunter Corsairs roll.

hunter is really waste, chaos is much better damage increase unless you're DD are gimp, considering on drg or sam I hit 89~94% acc w/o buffs depending if hasso on or not.
edit: assuming not North Mamool Ja.

[TacoTaru]

Can you out run the level 70 Blood Pacts that avatars do in Temenos Eastern Tower? Seems like they were absolutely owning us today. Really caught me off guard since I didn't realize it went through shadows and stuns are low already since we're 3manning it.

[FailureMidgard]

hunter is really waste, chaos is much better damage increase unless you're DD are gimp, considering on drg or sam I hit 89~94% acc w/o buffs depending if hasso on or not.
edit: assuming not North Mamool Ja.

Polearm Sam? I don't see you with that much accuracy unless you're using Sushi.

[Aristio]

Does Dual Wielding before level 50, decrease TP gain or just DoT? What effect does DW1 have on weapons.

Edit: This is for /NIN. Not NIN main.

[Tulun]

Shark Strap: Drop rate off NM? Awful or okay?

[Raen Ryong]

Swap Minuet and Hunter there for Madrigal and Chaos Roll, if memory serves that should do much better (especially if you have a drk/cor has af2 hat).

[Wolfknight]

Polearm Sam? I don't see you with that much accuracy unless you're using Sushi.

Generally I always drg for birds since it's stronger DD due to drakesbane, A+ skill and Wyvern, unless sam needs a buffer. Also I meant for sam GKT at mamool ja. If I were using sam polearm, with current set up I am at 83% acc when hasso ok[78% w/o] on higher lvl of birds in tp set[full polearm merits, love torque then +44 dex, and +37 acc], more acc in ws, so I'd agrue unless you have multiple sam polearm users in, it doesn't warranting gimping your other two DD so you can get acc, or just have brd give you madrigal since chaos is more potent than Mineut IV for most part.

[Kaope]

1) Is it possible to miss a hit when DA or TA procs on a multihit ws? For eg : Guillotine has 4 hits, so if all hits were to connect without any DA it'd be O > O > O > O ; However, if DA proc'ed and I missed a hit to be O > O > X > O > O making it still 4-hits.

The reason I'm asking this, is because I want to know whether I should leave my brutal earring on when doing Assassin's Charge + Dancing Edge.

2) How does Blu's multihits spells work? When a normal WS misses a hit, you'd know this from the TP return, but what about Blu's?

[Valyana]

Does Dual Wielding before level 50, decrease TP gain or just DoT? What effect does DW1 have on weapons.

DW1 is a 10% reduction in weapon delay, so 10% increase in DoT. TP is calculated based on the reduced delay, so it won't have much effect on TP gain if you're using axes or swords. If you're using fast daggers, it will be a small improvement to TP; even with the TP floor gone, as weapon delay drops below 180, TP rate increases significantly.

[Raen Ryong]

1) Is it possible to miss a hit when DA or TA procs on a multihit ws? For eg : Guillotine has 4 hits, so if all hits were to connect without any DA it'd be O > O > O > O ; However, if DA proc'ed and I missed a hit to be O > O > X > O > O making it still 4-hits.

The reason I'm asking this, is because I want to know whether I should leave my brutal earring on when doing Assassin's Charge + Dancing Edge.

2) How does Blu's multihits spells work? When a normal WS misses a hit, you'd know this from the TP return, but what about Blu's?

1. Yes, you wouldn't tell the difference unless you missed the first hit.
2. Brutal Earring, not if you're dualwielding because 5 hits + offhand hit + Triple Attack caps you at 8 hits regardless of if one misses or not
3. Same as weaponskills afaik, big accuracy bonus on the first hit and the only way to tell is the damage

[Valyana]

1) Is it possible to miss a hit when DA or TA procs on a multihit ws? For eg : Guillotine has 4 hits, so if all hits were to connect without any DA it'd be O > O > O > O ; However, if DA proc'ed and I missed a hit to be O > O > X > O > O making it still 4-hits.

Yes. I've seen 3 TP return from Raging Rush.

The reason I'm asking this, is because I want to know whether I should leave my brutal earring on when doing Assassin's Charge + Dancing Edge.

No, you can only swing 8 times regardless of hit or miss.

[warc]

Is it possible to use sorceror's ring, from gear swaps only, from lv 56+? I'm currently leveling blm off bst pet camps but currently have no way to activate sorc ring other than getting hit a few times. I'm elvaan blm, so I need all the help i can get to one-shot pets. HP is currently 859 in nuking gear. So I'll need about about -207 hp I believe. Outside of Serket's ring/Ether ring, I'm drawing a blank on any other -hp or convert hp gear :/

[Deader2818]

Emp. Hairpin should help too.