Randomer Question Thread

[Raen Ryong]

DA checks for every hit in a WS, with a cap of 2 DA's per WS.

Is there any proof of this other than the fact above 2 DAs would be horribly rare? I'm almost 100% sure I've seen a 3x DA Guillotine two times (in the last 20 months or so of playing DRK almost every day), with TP return and damage return as expected of 3x DA (ie, HIGH).

I wasn't hit at any time, directly or through AoE during either event. Is it definitely PROVEN that you cannot hit above 2, or is it just so insanely rare? I definitely lean towards the latter.

[Shinryuu]

Should be easy to test with fighter's roll, a WAR in the party, DRK/NIN (to not get hit), not much haste (you click guillo right after melee swing too) and no store TP gear (to make it simple). Just write down all of your TP returns.

[Karshe]

Took DRK to 37 years ago. Thinking about leveling it past that now. My question is, how long should I use Great Axe for (which is what I used to 37)? I can skill Scythe and GS on other jobs so that's not too much of a concern.

[Teryn]

Personnally when I did Drk I used Gaxe til Guillotine and it was rather nice. I had Skilled my Scythe and GS from War and Pld already so that wasn't an issue.
Sturmwind just seemed way nicer on all the exp mobs then the crappy Scythe Ws's.

[Araelus]

Took DRK to 37 years ago. Thinking about leveling it past that now. My question is, how long should I use Great Axe for (which is what I used to 37)? I can skill Scythe and GS on other jobs so that's too much of a concern.

Been said before by someone with more clout than I, but Great Axe to 60 is fine in my experience. Sturmwind is delicious before Guillotine, which shows up earlier than 60 if you have pre-merits, of course.

...as a general recommendation I really encourage using GA from 25 to at least 50. I don't think any damage output compares to spamming Sturmwind in that level range (plus there are some really good GAs), and as shown in older posts the damage from it is just about as high as it gets at those levels. I continued to use GA to 56, and then changed to rampage for a short time. It was fun at first, but my results with /NIN and two axes were much weaker overall. From 59 on I was mostly /NIN with Scythe until about 75, and at 75 for the most part I'm /WAR in PTs when I have confidence in the tank/healers.

[Drunkenmonk]

is it worth bothering with rajas on rng before 60? cant imagine 3 str is worth giving up a 2nd racc ring at 55 for side.

[Shinryuu]

Depends on the amount of hits you need before reaching 100% TP. If rajas cuts it by one, go rajas.

[Pendulum]

Took DRK to 37 years ago. Thinking about leveling it past that now. My question is, how long should I use Great Axe for (which is what I used to 37)? I can skill Scythe and GS on other jobs so that's not too much of a concern.

Till you can use guillotine like others said. I assume you're using Axe Belt for the extra 5 skill which means your GA will only be 2 points behind Scythe cap at 60 (and have a better WS!).

Some people switch from GA to 2 axes for Rampage (generally if they have axe merits) and then guillo

[Wulfgang]

http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/ffxi-...ck-normal.html

I've read this thread, but the conclusion at the end is somewhat mixed. There are three classes of posters:

A) We wiped, fight sucks
B) CS zerged it np
C) SMN + kite method still works

For those who have fought Vrtra recently, I am most interested in B. We have two K-Club DRKs and a plethora of SAMs, etc. Is it "easy" to CS zerg still or are we going to need more than two clubs because of Draw In? Somewhat related, can you stun Draw In? I didn't think so as I didn't think there was a readying action in the log, but I can't remember at work.

[Thorny]

Somewhat related, can you stun Draw In? I didn't think so as I didn't think there was a readying action in the log, but I can't remember at work.

drawin isn't even an ability in the conventional sense, mobs can use it while slept/stunned/etc

[Max™]

Is there any proof of this other than the fact above 2 DAs would be horribly rare? I'm almost 100% sure I've seen a 3x DA Guillotine two times (in the last 20 months or so of playing DRK almost every day), with TP return and damage return as expected of 3x DA (ie, HIGH).

I wasn't hit at any time, directly or through AoE during either event. Is it definitely PROVEN that you cannot hit above 2, or is it just so insanely rare? I definitely lean towards the latter.

I have 5 Minute War charge.

I did War for 3 years nonstop, I've never seen a 3 DA TP return or damage. T.T

With War charge and fighters roll on shit like colibri, it would be hard NOT to see a 3 DA once per meripo, but I've never seen one, and I think it was tested more extensively elsewhere.

[Sup3rB4d]

Can BLM solo Eastern Shadow?

[Thorny]

Yes, easily. It's sleepable lulz.. not to mention only lives 3 nukes, 4 with shitty gear.

[Maaglin]

Is there any proof of this other than the fact above 2 DAs would be horribly rare? I'm almost 100% sure I've seen a 3x DA Guillotine two times (in the last 20 months or so of playing DRK almost every day), with TP return and damage return as expected of 3x DA (ie, HIGH).

I wasn't hit at any time, directly or through AoE during either event. Is it definitely PROVEN that you cannot hit above 2, or is it just so insanely rare? I definitely lean towards the latter.

I have never seen a 3x DA proc guillotine or jin in all my years of playing drk and nin (that i've noticed anyway).

I do however see 2x DA proc's on guillo and jin from time to time. It's not as insanely rare (or even impossible lol) like some people think it is. What is rare is to notice the tp return that it happened (and not have you miss those hits while landing the normal ones so it just looks like a normal full 4-hit return for example, when you actually proced the DA's but missed one or both of them, etc.)

[Avarice]

Is the Accuracy Bonus for pets found on the Herder's Subligar (obtained from casket) higher or lower (or equal) to that found on Evoker's Spats? Has any testing been done?

[Wulfgang]

Was doing an 18 man Uninvited Guests before Bv2 with a PLD super tanking. We've done this dozens of times before, I used High Jump (was DRK/DRG clubbing for Bv2) and basically wiped the alliance, all Mammets aggroed me. Does High Jump have some sort of a property akin to releasing an avatar?

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z...306_221618.png

[Thorny]

Was doing an 18 man Uninvited Guests before Bv2 with a PLD super tanking. We've done this dozens of times before, I used High Jump (was DRK/DRG clubbing for Bv2) and basically wiped the alliance, all Mammets aggroed me. Does High Jump have some sort of a property akin to releasing an avatar?

Yea, funny story. This one time, I was kiting dobsonflies with POS and my DRG friend was duoing one at a time with a whm.. every single time he pulled one he'd jump->high jump->get raped :<

[Kumbai]

Question~

For Zhaylom Remnants, 5th Floor Porrogo~ How do people find it best to fight it?

My group has: MNK x2 SAM x2 SCH WHM BRD THF

We normally have 1 MNK and 1 SAM in, while the other 2 stand outside and wait for charm~ but after this the mages tend to pull hate and it can be a bit messy~

Just wondering if it might be quicker/less hassle for everyone to be charmed (keeping DoTs on the frog).

[el_tio]

I've always done keep DOTs on the frog, everyone stand in AOE range. I have been having timeout issues recently on the 5f frog because of how often it spams charmga. Last run I went with a new LS, and the wleg RDM was standing outside charm range and Sleepga us > kite, supposedly to ensure DOTs on but also to showoff a little I think. Anyways, it worked ok on the lower frogs but he ended up getting owned on 5f. So moral of the story: simpler to stand in AOE range, frequently apply / reapply DOT, and preferrably get a stunner of some sort.

[Spekkio]

if you can, bring a corsair. mnk's roll coupled with pennance drastically limits the tp gain of those little slime generators. less tp=more charmga. couple that w/ conservative tp use to keep shoulder tackle or hobaku up and it should go down quite easily.