Randomer Question Thread

[Therin]

Provoke sucks, period, and here's why.

Black Mage : Aw shit, I'm weakened. But, I can sleep this Vanguard Grappler at least. Someone will pull hate off of me.
Ninja : That's right! I'm sub WAR, so I'll use this nifty "Provoke" job ability to pull hate off of you, so that you don't die again when it wakes up!

. . . 45 seconds later.

Vanguard Grappler : RAWR *punches the Black Mage to death*
Black Mage : Fuck SE for giving Sleep cumulative enmity, and making Provoke worthless after 30 seconds. . .

Making the only job ability whose function is STRICTLY to build enmity becomes completely worthless 30 seconds after being used was such a horrible idea.

[Cream Soda]

But it gives you 30 seconds to come up with plan B!!!

[Drace]

All galka here, and it's amazing how well you can take damage when you cancel your berserk, hit defender, and swap your gear!

If you don't do that and count on just dealing damage faster than the mob... you're usually on the losing end of the boom-stick. Unless you get lucky, then you just look awesome.

Sorry but no... we are talking about MNK 2 hours in dynamis. Your extra 200 HP and Defender adds a nice 0.5 seconds onto your life duration w/o stuns/ sharing hate etc. 22% Phys Dmg reduction + Shadow Mantle + Defender on Elvaan, even with cure bombs I am dead in 3-4 seconds when Third Eye dies. So unless you have somehow cheated the mechanics of the game, I am still going to say Badass mages/ PLD Sentinel or gtfo >:0

[Gunslinger]

Sorry but no... we are talking about MNK 2 hours in dynamis. Your extra 200 HP and Defender adds a nice 0.5 seconds onto your life duration w/o stuns/ sharing hate etc. 22% Phys Dmg reduction + Shadow Mantle + Defender on Elvaan, even with cure bombs I am dead in 3-4 seconds when Third Eye dies. So unless you have somehow cheated the mechanics of the game, I am still going to say Badass mages/ PLD Sentinel or gtfo >:0

That seems pretty similar to my swap gear. I never said I straight tanked it from 100% down with Hundred Fists, I said I got hate after KJ If you're tanking it until it dies from 30% you're a lot better off than tanking it from 80% down.

I may have 400 hp when I'm alive at the end, but I'm alive. I'm not claiming to break game mechanics, I'm just agreeing that retaliation on 100 fists is a good time.

[Drace]

Yea I am curious enough now that I want to see how many retaliation procs I could get, so I might try WAR @ Sandoria tonight.

Probably going to lose a lot of xp then come bitch you and Max out

[Byrthnoth]

So having the ability to spike VE and get their attention worked wonders, as they don't care much about CE, like Campaign Imp Leechkeepers.

My experience from soloing Leechkeepers has been that they deagro as if it was a TP move regardless of how much VE or CE you have on them. So you'll be hitting them, then they'll just deagro and wander back towards their roaming path. When you reclaim them, they'll TP you literally right away.

[Darlantan]

The ninja should know better and provoke once the mob wakes up?

[Gryffes]

I've never levelled BLM past 41... isnt there better shit than zenith hands these days?

[Max™]

My experience from soloing Leechkeepers has been that they deagro as if it was a TP move regardless of how much VE or CE you have on them. So you'll be hitting them, then they'll just deagro and wander back towards their roaming path. When you reclaim them, they'll TP you literally right away.

Well that's what I meant, they seem to ignore CE, weirdly since I can pop Atonements as if I had been building Enm on them, they just seem to have some of the goldfish/lycopodium mechanic where they will follow for a while, and then say "nah, that's enough".


Provoke has more use than you may think.

Provoke is 1800 VE.

+4 Merits, +3 Cerb mantle.

I use two voke macros, one for "flash voke" as I call it, on War obviously, since Pld I'm basically never /War.

I.R. head, +5
AF (+1, lol, so what, wanna fight about it?) body +8
I.R. hands, +4
I.R. legs, +4
I.R. feet, +3
/voke

These are all swapped in my main TP macro button, so conveniently I can use my 4 highest +Enm boosts for a single button voke/TP gear macro.

+31 Enm Gear x 1800 = 2376 Enm
So it takes 39.6 for my flash voke to decay leaving me up 576 VE when I voke again, assuming I'm spamming it asap.

That is for stuff I'm actively hitting and tanking though, so my damage is my CE+VE, and Voke is just free VE on top of it.

I have a link Voke which is

/ta <stnpc>
/herc ring
/sattva ring
/warwolf
/harmonia's
/macro set change

new set, same button
/i.r. head
/af body
/i.r. hands
/i.r. legs
/i.r. feet
/voke

For +43 Enm, giving 2574 on my "link voke", or 42.9 seconds til full decay, putting me up 774 when I can voke again, and my Tomahawk macro swaps all of that gear + ammo (sacrificing the /ta <stnpc> and recast I use to use, which I hide in my bergressor macro), for 858 VE.

So I can put basically an extra vokes worth of VE (1600~) on a target I'm not hitting, which when spammed tends to make it come to me, since Sleep II is 480 CE/VE, and Sleepga/Sleepga II are apparently 180 CE/0 VE, I simply have to keep myself over that amount in TE, letting me make a mob come to me through several sleepgas/lullabies, if I'm simply paying attention.

Voke doesn't suck, you simply have to abuse the hate mechanics to get any benefit from it, and you have to spam it asap to beat the hate decay.

576 + 2376 = 49.2 seconds til it's gone, or 1152 next time I can voke, 1152 + 2376 = 3528 = 58.8 seconds til it's gone, putting me ahead 1728 next time I can voke.

So after two "flash vokes", the third is like voking twice, taking 68.4 seconds to decay, putting me 2304 ahead after 30 seconds, so on so forth.


tl;dr, voke doesn't suck, you just have to spam it in high +Enm to get any use out of it.

[Pendulum]

I've never levelled BLM past 41... isnt there better shit than zenith hands these days?

No not really. Morrigan's is 5 MAB and 5 MAcc but they're hardly as widespread as zenith mitts (and don't have -50hp for sorc ring).

[Maaglin]

Yigit hands are ok.

[matix]

theres those r/ex ones from the poppable past nm? 5.mab enhances absorb stuff too. i think <_> (im no blm so shoot me down if need lol)

edit: Vicious mufflers! yes! thanks maaglin

[Maaglin]

vicious mufflers

[Deelo]

A while ago someone posted a thread with a link to a site their friend made that let you play around with equips and such....any idea what I'm talkin about? I cant remember the site address and search isnt helping.

[Carraway]

A while ago someone posted a thread with a link to a site their friend made that let you play around with equips and such....any idea what I'm talkin about? I cant remember the site address and search isnt helping.

ffxigear.com

[Miroku_Asura]

Two questions: 1. Is Citadel Buster effected by the constant double light weather in Temenos? (Assuming yes) 2. Could Voidstorm be used to lower its damage by negating the weather effects on the tanks?

[arshesney]

Voidstorm works, and I remember reading somewhere that with Anrin Obi you could also force the weather penalty on it.

[Cream Soda]

Any stat that affects magic acc for nin enfeebles?

[Spekkio]

Voidstorm works, and I remember reading somewhere that with Anrin Obi you could also force the weather penalty on it.

weather/day bonus should be calculated based on the caster, not the target, otherwise storm spells wouldn't help sch nukes.

[Ultimagi]

Nevermind.