Randomer Question Thread

[pchan]

It did on earthsday run yesterday, so I don't think thunder will stop, though to note earthsday did stop my poison for some reason from disservement.

I'm pretty sure frogs are immune to poison.

[Wolfknight]

I'm pretty sure frogs are immune to poison.

nope, I disservement them commonly and get the posions wears normally after while use it to stop charm regen all the time, though was 4th frog one we don't normally do, I know it sticks on 2nd/3rd/5th/6th frogs easily.

[Cream Soda]

Does Explorer moogle have any extra options when tablet is up? He only had "What is Mog Tablet" and something about mog tablet history as options. Does he tell u when they were found/will be available again?

[cdgreg]

Thanks, I didn't think headbutt would proc if you enter on thunder day, but needed some back up from other players. I also did not think you can poison frogs, but maybe disseverment (sp) works differently than regular poison spells.

[Wolfknight]

Thanks, I didn't think headbutt would proc if you enter on thunder day, but needed some back up from other players. I also did not think you can poison frogs, but maybe disseverment (sp) works differently than regular poison spells.

I've seen it work before from rdm, aswell, thinking back now we did enter on firesday not earth maybe that's why it wasn't landing hmm.

[Aero]

Trying to figure out which relic I should start attempting. Bow vs Gun.

1. Can gun use cannon shells, someone told me it can but otherwiki doesnt say.
2. Has there been any conclusive testing on what coronach does?
3. Zergs aside, which weapon out DDs on HNM, Id assume a 5 hit gun would be better than 6 hit bow.
4. Although I think this is obvious may as well be sure. KC RNG would also be better off with gun(even more so if it can use shells) than bow(spamming relic WSs, not Slugwinder).

[Cream Soda]

With 8 polearm, 8 h2h, 4 gkt, and MNK SAM DRG DNC for jobs, I've decided that pup is pretty much the only melee to lv at this point due to ps... err I meant merit limitations.

Is there a general guide to this job? I don't know anything about it and will be starting from lv7. Which frame do I upgrade first ect As far as gear goes, I know how to gear an h2h job so I will pick based on my past experiences when it comes to dd/solo, but is there any special sets I'll need while lv'ingp specifically for the puppet? ect ect.

Edit: K, it seems that I've opted for Valoredge first before I d'lv the job to 7. I'm guessing I'm stuck with that choice till lv 20?

[Aragon of Odin]

General Guide: Get 3-4 SMNs, a level sync, and someone to hold mobs. SMN's 2-hr killing all mobs, rinse and repeat and sha bam, PUP level 75!

[Gryffes]

Trying to figure out which relic I should start attempting. Bow vs Gun.

1. Can gun use cannon shells, someone told me it can but otherwiki doesnt say.
2. Has there been any conclusive testing on what coronach does?
3. Zergs aside, which weapon out DDs on HNM, Id assume a 5 hit gun would be better than 6 hit bow.
4. Although I think this is obvious may as well be sure. KC RNG would also be better off with gun(even more so if it can use shells) than bow(spamming relic WSs, not Slugwinder).

1. Gun cannot use cannon shells. Does the person who told you that own one?

2. Not enough info. Some enmity- mechanic that seems to reduce enmity gain

3. Yoichi can get 5 hit with sam sub and 18 STP from gear
Annihilator gets 5 hit with sam sub and 6 STP from gear

Annihilator can get 4 hit with sam sub and 36 STP from gear. ( which is obtainable but some of the gear will make you wince looking at it ).

Yoichi can get 4 hit with sam main and +41 STP from gear.



http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/63762...ic-weapon.html

This thread has some reviews of both.

Final pros/cons: You can go soboro+yoichi on sam and pump it out.
Cons: Yoichi costs a LOT more on most servers.

Assuming you can borrow the last 3k currency on my server it looks like:

Annihilator
Total: 137,400,000


Yoichi
Total: 180,000,000

[Argettio]

Annihilator is instantly a 6 hit when you /sam (as you only need a total of 14 sTP)

Base TP: 14.8
Total sTP: 14
Total TP/hit: 16.8

So previous WS + 5 TP shots and you have 101.2 TP.

So you are free to wear whatever you want

If you want to go into 5 hit builds:

Full time this = 5 hit Annihilator build

Base TP: 14.8
Total sTP: 36 (15 from /sam, 21 from gear)
Total TP/hit: 20.1

So previous WS + 4 TP shots and you have 100.5 TP.

If you want to a TP set that allows you to WS in your full damage gear (zero sTP) you need 44sTP while TPing, so 28 from gear.

Which means wearing some thing like this

[Killkenny]

Argettio I'm not sure where you are getting your maths from but its way off.

A 5 hit build means it either takes 5 shots or it takes WS + 4 shots. As Gryffes already said you need 5 stp to 5 hit with annihilator, or 35 to 4 hit (WS + 3 shots).

[cdgreg]

Without the use of spellcast how do you cors activate your uggy pendant for every qd?

[Argettio]

Argettio I'm not sure where you are getting your maths from but its way off.

A 5 hit build means it either takes 5 shots or it takes WS + 4 shots. As Gryffes already said you need 5 stp to 5 hit with annihilator, or 35 to 4 hit (WS + 3 shots).

Corrected the x hit build numbers (was in a rush)

But I can't see where my maths went wrong (please let me know if you see the problem)

For 5hit build (WS + 4 shots) you need over 20TP per shot (as 100/5 = 20)

the base TP of the Annihilator is 14.8

20/14.8 = 1.35135....

So you need a 136% increase in TP gained per shot to reach 20/shot.

1sTP = 1 % increase in TP gained
Therefore you need 36sTP

/SAM = 15 sTP
Therefore you need 16 from gear.

(14.8*1.36)*5 = 100.5 (truncating to 1 decimal place at each step)

Any problems with that^?

For a 4 hit build (WS + 3 Shots) you need over 25TP per shot (as 100/4 = 25)
25/14.8 = 1.689...

(14.8*1.69)*4 = 100 (truncating to 1 decimal place at each step)

Following the same logic...

[Gryffes]

Argettio - you're not factoring in ammo delay.

[Argettio]

Argettio - you're not factoring in ammo delay.

There we go.

Thank you, I thought it must have been something simple and I was just being to stupid notice

[Bakthi]

Without the use of spellcast how do you cors activate your uggy pendant for every qd?

For /NIN, /RNG, and /WAR:

/console exec cor/MP_down.txt
/wait 1
/console exec cor/dd_qd.txt
/ja "Fire Shot" <t>
/wait 1
/console exec cor/dd_normal.txt

For /WHM and /RDM? I cure the hell out of people. The /wait 1 is unfortunate, as half of the draw (sorry) of Quick Draw is that it's instant, but it seems to be necessary in order for the MP change to process. Fortunately for me, the only time I'm really super-concerned about that is when kiting Kaiser Behemoth, and I'm /WHM for that (trio with two BLM/RDMs).

[Gryffes]

I remember seeing a page on wiki w/ the mythic WS point requirements per floor , but its a pain to find, can anyone link ?

[Thorny]

http://ff11wiki.rdy.jp/-1109159025.html

[Greg]

Does the Muscle Belt give counter to non monks? If so, what is the proc rate? Maybe a stupid question but I cant find the answer anywhere.

[Thorny]

Yes, 1%.