Randomer Question Thread

[Greg]

EWWW! Lol, thanks for the prompt reply ^^

[Cream Soda]

Can anyone show me the math behind why Mighty rings > vision rings in the dunes and do x2 mighty stack?

[Ashokan]

First question in a while for me, heh. How much AGI do Mamool Ja have (merit-level). What about Wivre? I'd like to see if I can get a high dDEX in WS.

By the way, does anyone have the exact evasion values and VIT of all those MMJs ( wiki only has MMJ whm drg and thf).

Mamool Ja have:

• AGI: C rating
• VIT: D rating
• Defense: C rating w/no multiplier
• Evasion: +10 bonus

Using the Studio Gobli formula with a little help from deep within the dex/crit relation thread the results are:

• Blusterer (WHM)
  
  • AGI 76
  • VIT 77
  • Defense
    
    • @81 336
    • @82 341
    • @83 346
    
    
  • Evasion
    
    • @81 313
    • @82 318
    • @83 322
    
    
  
  

• Infiltrator (NIN)
  
  • AGI 96
  • VIT 85
  • Defense
    
    • @81 340
    • @82 345
    • @83 350
    
    
  • Evasion
    
    • @81 366
    • @82 371
    • @83 376
    
    
  
  

• Lurker (THF)
  
  • AGI 96
  • VIT 77
  • Defense
    
    • @81 336
    • @82 341
    • @83 346
    
    
  • Evasion
    
    • @81 414
    • @82 419
    • @83 424
    
    
  
  

• Mimer (BLU)
  
  • AGI 76
  • VIT 71
  • Defense
    
    • @81 333
    • @82 338
    • @83 343
    
    
  • Evasion
    
    • @81 338
    • @82 343
    • @83 348
    
    
  
  

• Philosopher (BLM)
  
  • AGI 90
  • VIT 64
  • Defense
    
    • @81 330
    • @82 335
    • @83 340
    
    
  • Evasion
    
    • @81 320
    • @82 325
    • @83 329
    
    
  
  

• Pikeman (DRG)
  
  • AGI 82
  • VIT 85
  • Defense
    
    • @81 340
    • @82 345
    • @83 350
    
    
  • Evasion
    
    • @81 341
    • @82 346
    • @83 351
    
    
  
  

• Stabler (BST)
  
  • AGI 69
  • VIT 77
  • Defense
    
    • @81 336
    • @82 341
    • @83 346
    
    
  • Evasion
    
    • @81 334
    • @82 339
    • @83 344
    
    
  
  

I would do Wivres, but I don't know their ratings.

[Greg]

Can anyone show me the math behind why Mighty rings > vision rings in the dunes and do x2 mighty stack?

I dont know the math, but x2 rings do stack.

[Shinryuu]

10 attack is a LOT at that level and 4 ACC is just 2% hitrate

[mdkuser]

Mamool Ja have:

• AGI: C rating
• VIT: D rating
• Defense: C rating w/no multiplier
• Evasion: +10 bonus

Using the Studio Gobli formula with a little help from deep within the dex/crit relation thread the results are:

• Blusterer (WHM)
  
  • AGI 76
  • VIT 77
  • Defense
    
    • @81 336
    • @82 341
    • @83 346
    
    
  • Evasion
    
    • @81 313
    • @82 318
    • @83 322
    
    
  
  

• Infiltrator (NIN)
  
  • AGI 96
  • VIT 85
  • Defense
    
    • @81 340
    • @82 345
    • @83 350
    
    
  • Evasion
    
    • @81 366
    • @82 371
    • @83 376
    
    
  
  

• Lurker (THF)
  
  • AGI 96
  • VIT 77
  • Defense
    
    • @81 336
    • @82 341
    • @83 346
    
    
  • Evasion
    
    • @81 414
    • @82 419
    • @83 424
    
    
  
  

• Mimer (BLU)
  
  • AGI 76
  • VIT 71
  • Defense
    
    • @81 333
    • @82 338
    • @83 343
    
    
  • Evasion
    
    • @81 338
    • @82 343
    • @83 348
    
    
  
  

• Philosopher (BLM)
  
  • AGI 90
  • VIT 64
  • Defense
    
    • @81 330
    • @82 335
    • @83 340
    
    
  • Evasion
    
    • @81 320
    • @82 325
    • @83 329
    
    
  
  

• Pikeman (DRG)
  
  • AGI 82
  • VIT 85
  • Defense
    
    • @81 340
    • @82 345
    • @83 350
    
    
  • Evasion
    
    • @81 341
    • @82 346
    • @83 351
    
    
  
  

• Stabler (BST)
  
  • AGI 69
  • VIT 77
  • Defense
    
    • @81 336
    • @82 341
    • @83 346
    
    
  • Evasion
    
    • @81 334
    • @82 339
    • @83 344
    
    
  
  

I would do Wivres, but I don't know their ratings.

wow big thnaks for that. I always wondered why my crits was always floored on the freaking BLM ( 9%) when its got super low eva. explained also why crit builds do not work at all on mamools...

[Marcicus]

After I finish meriting my other jobs (and I have a shit ton of merits to do but thank God I level COR D: ), I am thinking about leveling THF since I have 4/4 Homam and 4/5 Hecatomb. Would this be an acceptable TP set from a merit perspective?

FFXIGEAR.com

[Wolfknight]

After I finish meriting my other jobs (and I have a shit ton of merits to do but thank God I level COR D: ), I am thinking about leveling THF since I have 4/4 Homam and 4/5 Hecatomb. Would this be an acceptable TP set from a merit perspective?

FFXIGEAR.com

yes should be though, I know alot of thfs gonna say use acc rings over ulta/rajas I am not positive though.

[Thorny]

blau/sirocco will almost always beat azoth/blau(aim for x's though!)

as was stated, acc rings

[Jakson]

Well, I was gonna ask a long retarded question:

Spoiler: show

What's a good accuracy to aim for on WAR/SAM for Polearm on birds? I was wondering if going all out on haste (walahra+dusk g, not askar head+hands, etc.) and spamming crab sushi would be worth it, or do you suit up if you had GAXE w/ kabobs and the piercing bonus makes up for the lack of acc?

Ideal? FFXIGEAR.com

Also, I don't see how to make it a 6 hit without spamming Carbonara.
480 delay, /SAM, Rajas, Brutal, and landing all 5 hits of Penta means 94.3%,

But it really comes down to this:

Is there a simple set of equations that I can perform that will show much how much acc I should give up for haste?

I see parses of WAR/SAM's with polearm parsing like 85%, but getting retardedly high numbers and doing well in it. It used to be everybody was like "gear for 95%, then haste, then attack, eat meat, get marches, fuck bitches, get money." Now its "get 85%, polearm, own face."

[Raen Ryong]

Shouldn't use a 5acc ring over Rajas.

5str vs 2.5acc

5str = +1/2fSTR

Assuming Blau D33, Sirocco D26 and fSTR+5 constant, Rajas is giving you

Blau: 2.6% / 5.2% DoT
Sirocco: 3.2% / 6.4% DoT

+1 fSTR / +2 fSTR

2.5acc at a moderate 80% accuracy base

1.25 / 80 = 1.56% DoT/WS frequency

The Store TP adds x% to WS frequency depending on how many hits to 100% TP it lowers it by, but overall I don't see how a 5acc ring will ever outdo a Rajas Ring on THF assuming fSTR is noncapped.

[Cream Soda]

I hate it when you guys do 2.5% acc lol it's either 2 or 3. wouldn't it be better to say this dmg vs this dmg at even dex and this dmg vs this dmg at odd dmg.

[Arthars]

inb4 fuck the fStr if i cant hit the shit with lesser 2-3 acc using rajas

i personally prefer in TPing in 2 toreador/snipers+1 than rajas

[mdkuser]

After I finish meriting my other jobs (and I have a shit ton of merits to do but thank God I level COR D: ), I am thinking about leveling THF since I have 4/4 Homam and 4/5 Hecatomb. Would this be an acceptable TP set from a merit perspective?

FFXIGEAR.com

for birds, probably, but use an accuracy ring ( HQ) preferably over ulthalam. Rajas will be ok because you don't have skadi and could need stp, although you need to check if you really get 5.0+ with rajas. But remember that pizza + rapparee harness is the way to go on everything worth a penny that doesn't steal food...

with your gear and full merit you'll get 390-395 acc top ( assuming mithra.. 5 less otherwise!). Combine with some feints action and ambush and you'll probably get 92-93% average accuracy at birds.

[Wolfknight]

for pld[37 atm], for solo and pty triumph crown or empress hairpin, or something better I am over looking[didn't see anything great til Valk/Walk Masks].

[Shinryuu]

I hate it when you guys do 2.5% acc lol it's either 2 or 3. wouldn't it be better to say this dmg vs this dmg at even dex and this dmg vs this dmg at odd dmg.

Is this proven? Just wondering. All DEX = accuracy tests have been done using /checks, I think; is it 50 ACC-over-mob-EVA for "low evasion"? Now, if you get 49.75 it still won't say "low evasion" since FFXI likes to floor everything, but perhaps the .75 ACC does result in a .375% hitrate (it'd be virtually unparsable).

[ringthree]

I dont know the math, but x2 rings do stack.

The Vision and Mighty stack, but I don't think two Mighty's stack.

[drwaffles]

The Vision and Mighty stack, but I don't think two Mighty's stack.

They do.

And you suck, FG - the last time I asked you the Mighty vs. Vision question on MSN you said "Vision, hands down". Make up your mind!

[Ashokan]

Is this proven? Just wondering. All DEX = accuracy tests have been done using /checks, I think; is it 50 ACC-over-mob-EVA for "low evasion"? Now, if you get 49.75 it still won't say "low evasion" since FFXI likes to floor everything, but perhaps the .75 ACC does result in a .375% hitrate (it'd be virtually unparsable).

I'm sure it's truncated just like everything else. Nonetheless, if you have an odd amount of DEX using a 1 hand weapon, it'll be 3 and if you have an even amount it'll be 2. Either way you're adding 2.5 before truncating.

[Shinryuu]

Well, I was gonna ask a long retarded question:

Spoiler: show

What's a good accuracy to aim for on WAR/SAM for Polearm on birds? I was wondering if going all out on haste (walahra+dusk g, not askar head+hands, etc.) and spamming crab sushi would be worth it, or do you suit up if you had GAXE w/ kabobs and the piercing bonus makes up for the lack of acc?

Ideal? FFXIGEAR.com

Also, I don't see how to make it a 6 hit without spamming Carbonara.
480 delay, /SAM, Rajas, Brutal, and landing all 5 hits of Penta means 94.3%,

But it really comes down to this:

Is there a simple set of equations that I can perform that will show much how much acc I should give up for haste?

I see parses of WAR/SAM's with polearm parsing like 85%, but getting retardedly high numbers and doing well in it. It used to be everybody was like "gear for 95%, then haste, then attack, eat meat, get marches, fuck bitches, get money." Now its "get 85%, polearm, own face."

Good accuracy with decent gear? 90%, aggressor factored in. Perfect gear? Can probably get 95% without aggressor but I'm checking that in a bit. On polearm WAR the only haste I don't use is blitz ring.

Haste vs hitrate is basically ((new hitrate-old hitrate)/old hitrate) vs. (((1/(1-new haste))-(1/(1-old haste))/(1/(1- old haste)) or in words, increase of new hitrate vs. old hitrate and increase of the return of new and old haste.

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Gondo/Pole/_/Bomblet
Turban/Ancient/Brutal/Hollow
Armadaberk/ANNM Barone/Rajas/Mars'
Cuchulain's/Speed/Byakko's/Aurum

ACC: 10 (hasso) + 6 + 9 + 3 + 16 + 8 + 5 + 5 = 62
DEX: 80 (base) + 4 + 2 + 11 + 6 + 5 + 4 + 15 + 3 = 130
Skill: 252

Total ACC: 200 + .9 * 52 + 130 * .75 + 62 = 405, only 2 ACC off capped hitrate. During aggressor, you could TP in blitz ring and unicorn leggings +1/dusk ledelsens +1.