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  1. #7921
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    How often does shadow ring proc? and does it work with enemy WS breath attacks?

  2. #7922
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    Shadow ring doesn't work on Breath Attacks. Will work on anything magic /w a rate around ~1/8. (At least when I tested it years ago.)

  3. #7923
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    Eye-balling, anywhere from 5 to 15% of the time.

    Parsing, I went 14/138 casts at a couple JoL fights, so ~10%.

    It needs more conclusive testing, as people swear the rate is not only random but dependent on the mob you are fighting, or the specific move/spell, or the level difference between the mob and you, days and moons...

    Also, so far it has resisted 100% death for me but have only accounted 9. I havent had one for a long time.

  4. #7924
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    Are Accomplice/Collaborator effected by enmity gear?
    Not in the sense of enmity removed from the target, just the amount you gain on use.
    i.e. Collaborator removes 25% from the target, but you gain 30% with +5 enmity.

  5. #7925
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    Is somepage safe yet? I really like the abilty to find gear based on stats for a job. No where else has that function(That I know of).

  6. #7926
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aero View Post
    Is somepage safe yet? I really like the abilty to find gear based on stats for a job. No where else has that function(That I know of).
    Item Search - FFXIAH.com
    any stats, job, level, slots, and etc and useable under it.

  7. #7927
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    When are Break WS actually useful? I wandered out of Whitegate to test how long they last at different TP, and it seems that neither Shield Break, Armor Break nor Full Break stick on either Lesser Colibri or Red Kissers.

    The only useful duration data I can find in my logs are from doing the NPC Promyvion quest, a 120TP Shield Break wearing off the Memory Receptacle 51 sec later.

  8. #7928
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    Which set would reduce more magic damage on PLD, assuming Shell V.

    FFXIGEAR.com
    vs
    FFXIGEAR.com

    Can't click?
    MDT-16% and MDB+20 vs MDT-25% and MDB+8.

  9. #7929
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaviorSelf View Post
    Which set would reduce more magic damage on PLD, assuming Shell V.

    FFXIGEAR.com
    vs
    FFXIGEAR.com

    Can't click?
    MDT-16% and MDB+20 vs MDT-25% and MDB+8.
    I don't know what you want it for, but for JoL i know allot of people overlook Iron ram lance and my simple maths give me, coral set = -32.3% magic, and Iron ram set= -34% magic damage taken ><

  10. #7930
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaviorSelf View Post
    MDT-16% and MDB+20 vs MDT-25% and MDB+8.
    (1-0.16)/(1.20) = 0.7
    (1-0.25)/(1.08 ) = 0.65 <- winner

  11. #7931
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    BRD

    nm

  12. #7932
    Every day I'm wafflin'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lahan View Post
    BRD: 6 CHR or 5 singing skill?

    (waist btw gleeman vs song belt)
    You can't be BRD75/BRD37, so Gleeman's.

  13. #7933
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    Yea I noticed after I started looking close so I killed the post sorry
    I wondered how I missed it before but not I remember why.

  14. #7934
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valyana View Post
    When are Break WS actually useful? I wandered out of Whitegate to test how long they last at different TP, and it seems that neither Shield Break, Armor Break nor Full Break stick on either Lesser Colibri or Red Kissers.

    The only useful duration data I can find in my logs are from doing the NPC Promyvion quest, a 120TP Shield Break wearing off the Memory Receptacle 51 sec later.
    Lvl 10~60 while partying there are many cases where you get more from letting everyone hit more than you would from a sturmwind.

    Not always, but it happens a lot when you overhunt.

    I've opened God fights in sky with shield break or full break if they'd resist shield, to help make sure winds landed and get the opening of the fight set smoothly.

    I've used em for SC's, and for fights where my WS dmg for some reason is shit, but DoT/TP is still useful, which isn't many.

  15. #7935
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    But while your here 3 wind skill.
    if i got 3 mag acc in that slot it would be a wash right?
    if so i could swap out a nereid for an omega and be ahead.

  16. #7936
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max™ View Post
    I've opened God fights in sky with shield break or full break if they'd resist shield, to help make sure winds landed and get the opening of the fight set smoothly.
    And gave up 300% WC MS SC?

    Sainthood comes at a high price.

  17. #7937
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lahan View Post
    But while your here 3 wind skill.
    if i got 3 mag acc in that slot it would be a wash right?
    if so i could swap out a nereid for an omega and be ahead.
    for offensive songs, yes. you can't just pitch the nerid though if you need it to break a skill tier on a buff song. most likely you don't though, so in most cases, yes, nerid<omega fairly strictly.

  18. #7938
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max™ View Post
    I've opened God fights in sky with shield break or full break if they'd resist shield
    Did the debuffs actually stick? That is, did you ever get "X Down effect wears off" messages? I had been assuming that they would stick on anything not strong to their element, but with both colibri and leech resisting all three Breaks that seems not to be the case.

  19. #7939
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spekkio View Post
    for offensive songs, yes. you can't just pitch the nerid though if you need it to break a skill tier on a buff song. most likely you don't though, so in most cases, yes, nerid<omega fairly strictly.

    how can I make a buff any better without a + from an instrument? or does chr up the stats
    songs?

  20. #7940
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    Skill affects the strength of buffs. CHR does not.

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