Randomer Question Thread

[Max™]

Mirke, Acc 10 DW 3%, gimme a hard one.

If you get an Att/DW or STP/DW Mirke, SO HELP ME GOD I WILL FUCKING CUT YOU!

[Drako]

what about double attack + dw ?

[Max™]

10 Acc which is 5% Hit rate if you aren't capped vs 2% DA which modifies your hit rate after your accuracy?

[Cream Soda]

I see rebme lurking in this thread. She does not have a penis!


As far as 10 acc vs 2% double attack its not even a competition

100 swings w/ 10 acc at 90% hit rate vs 100 swings w/ 2% DA at 92% da

Out of 100 swings w/ 90% hit rate, you will ON AVERAGE land 90 swings on each

2% DA on average will add 2 more swings
10 acc on average will add 5% hit rate

102 swings at 90% acc = 91.8 landed hits on average
100 swing at 95% acc = 95 landed hits on average

[Drako]

I see rebme lurking in this thread. She does not have a penis!


As far as 10 acc vs 2% double attack its not even a competition

100 swings w/ 10 acc at 90% hit rate vs 100 swings w/ 2% DA at 92% da

Out of 100 swings w/ 90% hit rate, you will ON AVERAGE land 90 swings on each

2% DA on average will add 2 more swings
10 acc on average will add 5% hit rate

102 swings at 90% acc = 91.8 landed hits on average
100 swing at 95% acc = 95 landed hits on average

why 10 acc would add 5% hit rate? i though that depends on mob evasion

[Cream Soda]

No, mob's evasion is where your current hit rate from. Adding/subtracting acc is going to have the same affect, provided you're not capped or floored.

Every 1 point of acc is currently accepted at .5% hit rate

When you're fighting a mob and let's say you have 21% hit rate. You add 2 acc, it goes to 22%

Now, let's say you're fighting a mob and you have 94% hit rate. Add 2 acc, and you get 95%.

Adding/Subtracting acc has a static effect on hitrate increase/decrease

Edit: Reb, I sent you a friend offer, accept plz!

[mdkuser]

which is the best acp body for nin and thf?

10 acc and 3% DW. For NIN, going from 35% to 38% dualwield: 0.65/0.62= +4.8% dmg ( not counting the str dex and acc lol), and for thf, going from 20% to 23% is 0.80/0.77=+3.8% dmg ( same, not counting str dex and acc); neither 10 att, 2% da or 3% crits can beat that.

what about double attack + dw ?

at caped accuracy, the AF+1 body will beat DA+DW too ( for nin) and rapparee will also beat it for thf.

[Cream Soda]

For thf, rap would beat it at capped acc even when you get the 2nd fstr up?

[mdkuser]

probably depends on what haste you got. with march and haste, rapparee wins at 92%+ already, counting the 5 str dex.

[Cream Soda]

Evasion has level correlation as well, no? Like if you're fighting a mob lv 80, it would get 4 acc against you for every lv (so 20 total)


Also, for mercy stroke w/ SA and non dual weild, 1 dex > 1 str, no?

[Kujatasoze]

Can anyone with a living rod chime in and tell me if the hidden effect is legit?

edit: Cemetery Cherry drop in KRT does it really double the effect of drain/aspir?!

[BerenTebogo]

So in my early morning state I've been thinking up stupid ideas as usual and was curious if anyone had extensive knowledge on Bomb Queen.

What I was thinking about and hoping is possible: Can you pop it with w.legs -> bio it -> zone it -> repeat like you do with hakutaku?

I'm not sure if anyone has done it or know if it draws in 100% past a certain point

[Kirschy]

I did a few Bomb Queens the other day, it used draw-in at the start just cause the pop point is like ~5.0 away from where BQ pops. I doubt you'd be able to zone it. You could win with less than 6 easily in 5 minutes, probably easier to get a few people to help.

[BerenTebogo]

Lame wanted to solo it hate dragging people out to stuff like that. Thanks kisch - also hi

[Horadrius]

I think the answer to this is pretty obvious, but I'm going to ask anyway...

I just got out of monk Maat fight, and we kinda fought to a draw - he killed me right as I landed the killing blow on him, and then I exited the battlefield (cleared record too). I didn't get the Maat Masher title though, so now I'm wondering if this "counted" towards Maat's cap..? I don't see why it wouldn't but the fact that I didn't get the title is giving me doubts.

[Cream Soda]

well if it doesn't just lv the job to 75 (its a fun job anyways) and then he's very easy. I beat him w/ staff at 75

[Horadrius]

Yeah, I celebrated my dinging 75 with the Maat fight, I'm pretty sure it'll count but I'm just a tad skeptical.

[Wolfknight]

I did a few Bomb Queens the other day, it used draw-in at the start just cause the pop point is like ~5.0 away from where BQ pops. I doubt you'd be able to zone it. You could win with less than 6 easily in 5 minutes, probably easier to get a few people to help.

yea, I did few other day w/blu thf rdm brd whm took maybe 7 minutes for the first wasn't hard w/blu focus on adds and thf tanking/dding the queen. Had drg come for second w/that it went down probably 5 minutes.

[Milkster]

When, if ever, is TPing in an Iota Ring acceptable? Also is Cuch's Mantle acceptable to WS compared to Cerb +1/Forg Mantle? I'm think of DRK SAM WAR for these questions

[Tsuko_Asura]

Iota Ring isn't bad, people just tend to look down upon it for some inexplicable reason. If you don't see yourself owning a Sniper's Ring+1/Toreador's Ring, Iota is pretty decent.

As for the mantle, its pretty dependent on your accuracy, there are usually more beneficial places to seek accuracy during a weapon skill, so generally speaking, stick with Cerberus Mantle +1 or Forager's.