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    Re: Randomer Question Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by LinktheDeme
    NHands vs Pallas which is better?
    Also Nhands Vs Alky but if pallas wins top then alky will win bottom
    For WAR WS
    For what WS?

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    Re: Randomer Question Thread

    Rampage: N hands
    Raging Rush: N hands
    Steel Cyclone: Alkies

    Rampage and RR are both chance to crit WSs and the chance to crit is modified by your base crit hit rate, more DEX means a better chance to crit the hits on the WS, that and both are also multi-hit, the -DEX on bracelets is minor in terms of an ACC reduction but a single missed hit on a WS hurts.

    Steel Cyclone can't crit unless forced, unless the -DEX hurts you in terms of accuracy (it shouldn't) the STR is much more advantageous.

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    Re: Randomer Question Thread

    The chance to crit on a WS is modified by TP; the WS description doesn't say anything about it being modded by DEX.

    Now your normal chance to crit during melee is affected by DEX and DEX during a WS does affect accuracy. I have yet to see any test (and would be very hard to do so) to show that DEX affects crits during a WS instead of just the TP.

    I believe it's always just been assumed that DEX will affect crit rate of a WS that can crit, but no proof has been shown to support the theory, just that martial weapons which increase the TP help the crit rate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martinius
    it largely depends on your sub. if you're in xarc subbing war(bad idea), sushi all the way, but if you're /thf, stick with 6 hit, haste, etc, and hope that you have full meditate merits. for some reason, xarcabard mobs, particularly nin and thf mobs have ridiculous evasion, even with sushi. your gear looks fine(almost identical to mine, tho i must confess, i've got a few more white borders and a bushi), even if you're wearing your brutal on the wrong ear

    samurais in xarc are there(particularly on NMs) to facilitate skillchains and do burst dmg. you're not gonna be swinging for meritpo like numbers, and meat will help on high def mobs like mnks and plds(the same way that nins and thfs have retarded evasion, pld war and mnk mobs have retarded vit and def.

    oh, and never forget, if your linkshell sentinel's mnk 2hrs, never trick onto the ninja ^^

    last two things... one, if you're subbing thf, you can get more str for your ws(ideally osode) but there's always DOMARUUUUUUUU, tho if it's between hauby and domaru, stick with the hauby. two, unless that's a speed belt, that should be what you swap if your acc is really driving you crazy... losing 4 haste for 7 acc and 5 att is superior to losing 5 haste and 30hp for 10 acc.

    oh, and never melee in front of the mobs... mnks will counter half your attacks, and there's some vicious frontal AOE demons have(the name escapes me) that can one shot you. try to stick to the sides of the mobs, swap to your ws gear, and unless it's a 2hring mnk, then move behind the mob and SATA your ws onto the off-tank.

    gluck and good hunting ^^
    Ended up doing /war with Sushi. I think it went ok.
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    Re: Randomer Question Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Xrave
    The chance to crit on a WS is modified by TP; the WS description doesn't say anything about it being modded by DEX.

    Now your normal chance to crit during melee is affected by DEX and DEX during a WS does affect accuracy. I have yet to see any test (and would be very hard to do so) to show that DEX affects crits during a WS instead of just the TP.

    I believe it's always just been assumed that DEX will affect crit rate of a WS that can crit, but no proof has been shown to support the theory, just that martial weapons which increase the TP help the crit rate.
    There were definitely a few tests here showing dex increased critical rate on "chance of critical varies with TP" ws, I'm too lazy to sift through all the individual posts but you can look through here for starters: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=17450&hilit=stacking+dex

    And of coarse WS description doesn't say anything about dex, nothing in this game is described like that. No weaponskills say "Damage varies with STR", nukes don't say "Damage varies with INT", trick attack doesn't say anything about agi, etc.

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    Re: Randomer Question Thread

    If that's the link for the DEX build when they found the different tiers, which it looks like it is, I don't think there was anything in there to show that the DEX helped the WSs.

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    Re: Randomer Question Thread

    You can kind of test it out, I know just after the Dex=Acc 2h buff I did a silly Dex build for Raging Rush and it roxxored my soxxors, but I lost so much Acc because I don't have Haidate, that I went back to a more Str heavy build til I get Haidate/Nhands.

    I have Alky's, which are wtfawesome for Steel Cyclone, though it just doesn't feel right to Raging Rush in them, though I've little choice otherwise, and taru Dex to help there.

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    Re: Randomer Question Thread

    Stupid Question: Is it wrong to lurk the advanced section to see if I'm one of the people being made fun of? ...I can't be the only one who does this, right!?

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    Re: Randomer Question Thread

    I think you should lurk the "WTF player thread" and not worry about the advanced forums (Unless you post something absolutely unnecessary)

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    Re: Randomer Question Thread

    Also good to go there to skim for info, but yeah keeping your head down doesn't hurt if you are worried about having a glass jaw.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaybar
    I think you should lurk the "WTF player thread" and not worry about the advanced forums (Unless you post something absolutely unnecessary)
    Er, yeah, that's pretty much what I meant. Luckily, I haven't been posted about yet!

    Serious question But really, am I that horrible?

    BRD73/WHM36, Elvaan female and slowly working on NIN sub(static duo at 17 right now), but I'm not exactly seeping in affluence right now Q_Q

    Main: Earth/Light/Dark Staves
    Sub: Bugard strap+1(would have a Staff strap, but I'm currently using my IS for my Walahra turban)
    Range: Horn+1, Siren flute, Rose harp+1, Faerie piccolo, Traversiere+1, Cornette+1, Harp+1, Ebony harp, Gemshorn+1, Angel's Flute(actually use harp more often for Prelude to save space), Crumhorn+1(avatar fights), Nursemaid's harp(stringed skill is almost always capped), or Royal spearman's horn(on a mule, only have it for capped stuff)
    Ammo: N/A
    Head: Demon helm for buffs, Opo-opo crown+Pamamas for debuffs(I've been debating getting different food and just keeping that Demon helm on until I can get a Bard's roundlet)
    Neck: String/Wind torque, Star necklace(for MP if I really need it)
    Ear: Melody earringx2
    Body: Errant houppelande, Choral justaucorps for Stringed buffs(rarely)
    Hands: Sha'ir gages(debuffs), Choral cuffs(buffs)
    Ring1: Trumpet ring(want a Nereid, but I'm poor)
    Ring2: Moon ring(want Angel's ring, but I'm poor)
    Back: Jester's cape+1
    Waist: Gleeman's belt
    Legs: Choral cannions
    Feet: Wood F ledelsens

    Please keep in mind this character has under 100 days playtime(even though I've been playing FFXI since NA release...), is my highest job, and I have never done end-game stuff(though I hope to start Dynamis soon and maybe get on those missions)....and I have a long wish-list.

    (Edited over 9,000 times for easier readability...and consistency.)

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    Re: Randomer Question Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by CeridwenOfKujata
    Quote Originally Posted by Jaybar
    I think you should lurk the "WTF player thread" and not worry about the advanced forums (Unless you post something absolutely unnecessary)
    Er, yeah, that's pretty much what I meant. Luckily, I haven't been posted about yet!

    Serious question But really, am I that horrible?

    BRD73/WHM36, Elvaan female and slowly working on NIN sub(static duo at 17 right now), but I'm not exactly seeping in affluence right now Q_Q

    Main: Earth/Light/Dark Staves
    Sub: Bugard strap+1(would have a Staff strap, but I'm currently using my IS for my Walahra turban)
    Range: Horn+1, Siren flute, Rose harp+1, Faerie piccolo, Traversiere+1, Cornette+1, Harp+1, Ebony harp, Gemshorn+1, Angel's Flute(actually use harp more often for Prelude to save space), Crumhorn+1(avatar fights), Nursemaid's harp(stringed skill is almost always capped), or Royal spearman's horn(on a mule, only have it for capped stuff)
    Ammo: N/A
    Head: Demon helm for buffs, Opo-opo crown+Pamamas for debuffs(I've been debating getting different food and just keeping that Demon helm on until I can get a Bard's roundlet)
    Neck: String/Wind torque, Star necklace(for MP if I really need it)
    Ear: Melody earringx2
    Body: Errant houppelande, Choral justaucorps for Stringed buffs(rarely)
    Hands: Sha'ir gages(debuffs), Choral cuffs(buffs)
    Ring1: Trumpet ring(want a Nereid, but I'm poor)
    Ring2: Moon ring(want Angel's ring, but I'm poor)
    Back: Jester's cape+1
    Waist: Gleeman's belt
    Legs: Choral cannions
    Feet: Wood F ledelsens

    Please keep in mind this character has under 100 days playtime(even though I've been playing FFXI since NA release...), is my highest job, and I have never done end-game stuff(though I hope to start Dynamis soon and maybe get on those missions)....and I have a long wish-list.

    (Edited over 9,000 times for easier readability...and consistency.)
    your gear is fine. could use some enhancements, but who can't? not to mention you're a bard, so you're only slightly less useful than you would be completely naked with only instruments.

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    Re: Randomer Question Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by banhero
    Quote Originally Posted by CeridwenOfKujata
    Quote Originally Posted by Jaybar
    I think you should lurk the "WTF player thread" and not worry about the advanced forums (Unless you post something absolutely unnecessary)
    Er, yeah, that's pretty much what I meant. Luckily, I haven't been posted about yet!

    Serious question But really, am I that horrible?

    BRD73/WHM36, Elvaan female and slowly working on NIN sub(static duo at 17 right now), but I'm not exactly seeping in affluence right now Q_Q

    Main: Earth/Light/Dark Staves
    Sub: Bugard strap+1(would have a Staff strap, but I'm currently using my IS for my Walahra turban)
    Range: Horn+1, Siren flute, Rose harp+1, Faerie piccolo, Traversiere+1, Cornette+1, Harp+1, Ebony harp, Gemshorn+1, Angel's Flute(actually use harp more often for Prelude to save space), Crumhorn+1(avatar fights), Nursemaid's harp(stringed skill is almost always capped), or Royal spearman's horn(on a mule, only have it for capped stuff)
    Ammo: N/A
    Head: Demon helm for buffs, Opo-opo crown+Pamamas for debuffs(I've been debating getting different food and just keeping that Demon helm on until I can get a Bard's roundlet)
    Neck: String/Wind torque, Star necklace(for MP if I really need it)
    Ear: Melody earringx2
    Body: Errant houppelande, Choral justaucorps for Stringed buffs(rarely)
    Hands: Sha'ir gages(debuffs), Choral cuffs(buffs)
    Ring1: Trumpet ring(want a Nereid, but I'm poor)
    Ring2: Moon ring(want Angel's ring, but I'm poor)
    Back: Jester's cape+1
    Waist: Gleeman's belt
    Legs: Choral cannions
    Feet: Wood F ledelsens

    Please keep in mind this character has under 100 days playtime(even though I've been playing FFXI since NA release...), is my highest job, and I have never done end-game stuff(though I hope to start Dynamis soon and maybe get on those missions)....and I have a long wish-list.

    (Edited over 9,000 times for easier readability...and consistency.)
    your gear is fine. could use some enhancements, but who can't? not to mention you're a bard.

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    Re: Randomer Question Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by banhero
    your gear is fine. could use some enhancements, but who can't? not to mention you're a bard, so you're only slightly less useful than you would be completely naked with only instruments.
    I figured as such... being a Bard is nice that way. I still try to do my best, though.

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    damn you replied fast...edited my post because it didn't make sense. lol... but yeah <3 being a brd

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    Re: Randomer Question Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by CeridwenOfKujata

    BRD73/WHM36, Elvaan female and slowly working on NIN sub(static duo at 17 right now), but I'm not exactly seeping in affluence right now Q_Q
    If you can afford at some point upgade to terra and apollo's staves. After that you're really looking at upgrading af if you have Sea (hands/legs/body), yigit gomlek, storm fife if you do assault/Salvage and the musical earring bought with ancient beastcoins. Salvage gear is nice too but again, depends if you do it / have access.

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    Quote Originally Posted by banhero
    damn you replied fast...edited my post because it didn't make sense. lol... but yeah <3 being a brd
    It made sense, aside from the accidental double-post. And I think Bard is the cheapest job(cheap as in inexpensive)...maybe that's why I took it so far.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eldelphia
    If you can afford at some point upgade to terra and apollo's staves. After that you're really looking at upgrading af if you have Sea (hands/legs/body), yigit gomlek, storm fife if you do assault/Salvage and the musical earring bought with ancient beastcoins. Salvage gear is nice too but again, depends if you do it / have access.
    Yeah, the crappy part is I hardly have any missions done/access to places since I was out of a linkshell for over 6 months(and who the hell does pick-up stuff anymore, amirite?). ~_~

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    Re: Randomer Question Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Eldelphia
    Quote Originally Posted by CeridwenOfKujata

    BRD73/WHM36, Elvaan female and slowly working on NIN sub(static duo at 17 right now), but I'm not exactly seeping in affluence right now Q_Q
    If you can afford at some point upgade to terra and apollo's staves. After that you're really looking at upgrading af if you have Sea (hands/legs/body), yigit gomlek, storm fife if you do assault/Salvage and the musical earring bought with ancient beastcoins. Salvage gear is nice too but again, depends if you do it / have access.
    honestly, imo, the most valuable thing in that list to get would be the yigit body. the less time you spend standing and singing, the more time you can spend on other things. storm fife is good if you're doing assaults/salvage obviously, but since i'm guessing that's not your thing, that can be back-burnered. the af+1 is a huge, huge boost. body's great for pulling and debuff if you don't own an osode, the legs have a ton of wind skill for buffs, and the hands are just win on a stick. the earring is good stuff too. the real core question is what you plan on doing with your time in the short term. if it's going to be merit point parties, it's not nearly as hard to score a sleep as say, dynamis demons. if you want to get to xarcabard, tune up that apollo's and terra right away. if not, you can probably do fine just sitting on NQ sticks. not sure if what i wrote makes much sense or is of any help, but i hope it's some good.

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    Re: Randomer Question Thread

    I recently hit 75RDM, and I went up to sky to do some soloing for fun. I figured I'd try zip, as he didn't seem too hard. Needless to say, first try I kind of got raped, second try I killed him but had to zone a few times (sky was empty so it didn't get stolen). The reason this happened is due to several outright bind resists (two of which were back-to-back). Is this normal? It wasn't firesday or anything. I have max buyable enfeeb skill+capped merits (from BLM), nothing else on RDM job-specific is merited besides a few vert. Will the 5 ice acc merits really help noticeably?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necrosis
    I recently hit 75RDM, and I went up to sky to do some soloing for fun. I figured I'd try zip, as he didn't seem too hard. Needless to say, first try I kind of got raped, second try I killed him but had to zone a few times (sky was empty so it didn't get stolen). The reason this happened is due to several outright bind resists (two of which were back-to-back). Is this normal? It wasn't firesday or anything. I have max buyable enfeeb skill+capped merits (from BLM), nothing else on RDM is merited besides a few vert. Will the 5 ice acc merits really help noticeably?
    I do fine with only 3 Ice Acc merits, but they do make a huge difference. Zip isn't exactly a pushover, especially if he pops at the high end of his level range. You'll want the acc merits and an Aquilo's at the minimum if you don't have it already, Balrahn's Ring and Goliard Clogs also go a long way if you have/can get them. I don't typically get many bind resists anymore with Aquilo's, 317 skill, and +11 MAcc, but 1-2 a fight is still typical, just save Gravity for when Bind resists, lay a Grav on him and run until Bind is back up.

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