Randomer Question Thread

[Tricen]

Is the 2% haste from quick belt (lulz) more than the enhance dual wield from sarashi?

[Cyn]

Yes...

[evilpaul]

i don't disagree, which is why in my original post i stipulated max the one you play the most in a situation where those weapons will do the most good. if you're a mnk who does nothing but chi blast, h2h merits do nothing for you. if you're a nin who tanks HNM w/ staff, katana merits will do you no good. but yeah, my same friend who is of the 'death by 1000 paper cuts' philosophy, also has 8/8 katana merits and can eat meat at most ToAU exp camps, so im not arguing their awesomeness.

What are the NINs and MNKs w/ capped merits wearing that they can eat meat at most spots? I'm 75 @ both w/ 8/8 in Katana and H2H and doubt I'd hit 80% Acc w/o sushi anywhere besides Caedarva Mire which isn't a real merit spot anyway. Noritsune (or Usukane) hands and Life Belt or something?

[Cyn]

i don't disagree, which is why in my original post i stipulated max the one you play the most in a situation where those weapons will do the most good. if you're a mnk who does nothing but chi blast, h2h merits do nothing for you. if you're a nin who tanks HNM w/ staff, katana merits will do you no good. but yeah, my same friend who is of the 'death by 1000 paper cuts' philosophy, also has 8/8 katana merits and can eat meat at most ToAU exp camps, so im not arguing their awesomeness.

What are the NINs and MNKs w/ capped merits wearing that they can eat meat at most spots? I'm 75 @ both w/ 8/8 in Katana and H2H and doubt I'd hit 80% Acc w/o sushi anywhere besides Caedarva Mire which isn't a real merit spot anyway. Noritsune (or Usukane) hands and Life Belt or something?

Replied, guess it got ate up by the evil interwebs trolls. the answer is 2 bards. Or a BRD and a COR.

[Ryushii]

6-hit build possible on ebow? Guessing no.

[Niiro]

6-hit build possible on ebow? Guessing no.

Unless my math is way off, /SAM and rajas gives you 5 hit with eurytos.

TP/Hit for Eurytos 13.3
TP/hit for Demon arrow 4.3

13.3 + 4.3 = 17.6 TP/hit

17.6 x 1.2 (/SAM and rajas) = 21.1 TP/hit

[Ryushii]

6-hit build possible on ebow? Guessing no.

Unless my math is way off, /SAM and rajas gives you 5 hit with eurytos.

TP/Hit for Eurytos 13.3
TP/hit for Demon arrow 4.3

13.3 + 4.3 = 17.6 TP/hit

17.6 x 1.2 (/SAM and rajas) = 21.1 TP/hit

I have no idea how you got those numbers, but on RNG/NIN I get somewhere between 14 and 15 tp a hit, so I don't think that's right.

[Tricen]

Is the 2% haste from quick belt (lulz) more than the enhance dual wield from sarashi?

Tricen: Sarashi is a piece of shit, if i ever see you with one on, I will bitchslap your way to the mog house? Clear?

<___________< Got quick belt instead.

[Cyn]

Is the 2% haste from quick belt (lulz) more than the enhance dual wield from sarashi?

Tricen: Sarashi is a piece of shit, if i ever see you with one on, I will bitchslap your way to the mog house? Clear?

<___________< Got quick belt instead.

In most cases, using haste gear at very low levels is going to have a very small, if any noticable effect. Certainly no point using a haste belt until swift @ 50 or w/e it is.

[Tricen]

Eh I have speed belt for 55... And my ACC is pretty decent, so I figured it wouldn't hurt.

[fantasticdan]

Unless you're parsing like 92%+ acc, tilt belt is better than quick.

[Ryushii]

6-hit build possible on ebow? Guessing no.

Unless my math is way off, /SAM and rajas gives you 5 hit with eurytos.

TP/Hit for Eurytos 13.3
TP/hit for Demon arrow 4.3

13.3 + 4.3 = 17.6 TP/hit

17.6 x 1.2 (/SAM and rajas) = 21.1 TP/hit

I have no idea how you got those numbers, but on RNG/NIN I get somewhere between 14 and 15 tp a hit, so I don't think that's right.

Answering my own question here, but tell me if it sounds right:

Ebow+90 delay ammo should give 14.8 tp/hit, which is 16.2 tp/hit with SAM sub. Therefore, you only need +3 Store TP to get a 6 hit build. Right?

[VZX]

6-hit build possible on ebow? Guessing no.

Unless my math is way off, /SAM and rajas gives you 5 hit with eurytos.

TP/Hit for Eurytos 13.3
TP/hit for Demon arrow 4.3

13.3 + 4.3 = 17.6 TP/hit

17.6 x 1.2 (/SAM and rajas) = 21.1 TP/hit

I have no idea how you got those numbers, but on RNG/NIN I get somewhere between 14 and 15 tp a hit, so I don't think that's right.

Answering my own question here, but tell me if it sounds right:

Ebow+90 delay ammo should give 14.8 tp/hit, which is 16.2 tp/hit with SAM sub. Therefore, you only need +3 Store TP to get a 6 hit build. Right?

Store TP II = Store TP+15
14.8*1.15 = 17.0 TP/hit. You're already on 6-hit build

I'm still questioning the viability of x-hit build on Slugwinder. Simply because It's a better idea to wait for higher TP

[Cyn]

I don't know about that, I stopped having accuracy issues with slugwinder at 75, even with meat. Of course on more evasive things like Nidhogg I tend to eat sushi and shoot at more like 150, if I'm not opening/closing light.

[Ferien]

Can WAR/SAM 7-Hit set-up be achieved with Byakko's/Perdu without Rajas ring (or any Store TP excluding SAM sub)?

504 delay is a 7 hit build with only /SAM.

6 hit can be attained with an additional 7 store tp.

its really quite easy too,

chiv chain +1 stp
brutal earring +1 stp
rajas +5 stp

or, if you'd like to keep a pcc or torque on i'd look into Ecphoria ring, comes from new ladybug nm in east ronufaure [s] and has +1 stp +4 acc and 100 charges of cure amnesia

Good thing about WAR/SAM is that if you are connecting most of your Raging Rushes, you can get rid of Chiv Chain after the first initial TP build up.

A little late to this one, but the question was asked without Rajas. For 6-hit without it, you need either Askar body or Carbonara.

[LordMagnus]

For some reason my Imperial Standard has not been working recently. I get the Moghancement: Conquest from it, but when I exp I only get 1 IS per 10 exp/limit points (I checked in a merit pt once to make sure). I can't figure out for the life of me why it's not getting doubled. My furniture consists of:

Festival Dolls
Ancient Blood
Bonbori
Bonbori
Imperial Standard
Cupboard
Drawing Desk
Bronze Bed

Any ideas? @.@ I've also read that stronger fire would make the Imperial Standard give an even greater bonus than when it was working for me before. Can anyone confirm this? Maybe that's my problem somehow...

[Spekkio]

For some reason my Imperial Standard has not been working recently. I get the Moghancement: Conquest from it, but when I exp I only get 1 IS per 10 exp/limit points (I checked in a merit pt once to make sure). I can't figure out for the life of me why it's not getting doubled. My furniture consists of:

Festival Dolls
Ancient Blood
Bonbori
Bonbori
Imperial Standard
Cupboard
Drawing Desk
Bronze Bed

Any ideas? @.@ I've also read that stronger fire would make the Imperial Standard give an even greater bonus than when it was working for me before. Can anyone confirm this? Maybe that's my problem somehow...

to my knowledge, the flag has never functioned in AU areas making it nearly useless. i tested it recently and yes, even with the moghancement on, it's still a 10:1 ratio on XP:IS.

[LordMagnus]

For some reason my Imperial Standard has not been working recently. I get the Moghancement: Conquest from it, but when I exp I only get 1 IS per 10 exp/limit points (I checked in a merit pt once to make sure). I can't figure out for the life of me why it's not getting doubled. My furniture consists of:

[baleted4space]

Any ideas? @.@ I've also read that stronger fire would make the Imperial Standard give an even greater bonus than when it was working for me before. Can anyone confirm this? Maybe that's my problem somehow...

to my knowledge, the flag has never functioned in AU areas making it nearly useless. i tested it recently and yes, even with the moghancement on, it's still a 10:1 ratio on XP:IS.

So it NEVER doubled your IS intake? O.o I could have sworn it helped, I remember getting a fuckton of IS after completing ToAU >< Maybe it was all in my head.

[Ryushii]

6-hit build possible on ebow? Guessing no.

Unless my math is way off, /SAM and rajas gives you 5 hit with eurytos.

TP/Hit for Eurytos 13.3
TP/hit for Demon arrow 4.3

13.3 + 4.3 = 17.6 TP/hit

17.6 x 1.2 (/SAM and rajas) = 21.1 TP/hit

I have no idea how you got those numbers, but on RNG/NIN I get somewhere between 14 and 15 tp a hit, so I don't think that's right.

Answering my own question here, but tell me if it sounds right:

Ebow+90 delay ammo should give 14.8 tp/hit, which is 16.2 tp/hit with SAM sub. Therefore, you only need +3 Store TP to get a 6 hit build. Right?

Store TP II = Store TP+15
14.8*1.15 = 17.0 TP/hit. You're already on 6-hit build

I'm still questioning the viability of x-hit build on Slugwinder. Simply because It's a better idea to wait for higher TP

My bad, I just realized when I put the stuff in the calculator it was set at my current lvl (56) instead of 75. It also seems like a 5-hit for ebow seems kind of pointless to go after, considering it requires +21 store tp.

Anyway, a question based on the question by VZX: is Sidewinder really that difficult to land? I have a very high hit rate (based on eye-balling, though I'd say 1-2 misses per party is close enough to the optimal rate). Granted, I use sushi, my full racc build, and I have max archery merits, but I'm also fighting colibri. When (if ever) does SW start becoming difficult to land? On that note, wouldn't being able to land more SWs be more beneficial than trying to wait for higher TP, providing hate isn't a problem? Please explain...

[yrpaine]

to the above ^

I've always understood that delay on ammo (other than throwing items) was just for show and that it did not actually play into the equation (at least for the actual delay in time it takes to shoot, so i assumed it would be the same for tp gain). This may be the point of confusion.