Randomer Question Thread

[Judai]

57 Blm, looking towards the future.

Relatively easy to obtain hMP sets.

Full Yigit

or

Yigit body/legs
AF+1 hat
Genie Gages
Goliard Clogs

Something I missed?

Full Yigit (+8hmp,+1mp/3s)= 26mp@30s(2tick+10refresh tick) - 60mp@1m(5t+20rt) - 94mp@1m30s(8t+30rt)

Second set (+12hmp)= 24mp@30s(2t) - 60mp@1m(5t) - 96mp@1m30s(8t)

Second set + Goliard Chapeau (+13hmp)= 26mp@30s(2t) - 65mp@1m(5t) - 104mp@1m30s(8t)

Think I did the math right, Refresh 1mp/3s and hmp first tick is 20s? with second 10s. You could get into the fact that Yigit gives you a bit extra MP quicker and you don't have to wait a full tick to get MP from the refresh. I personally use Full Yigit since I use the set for BLU also and I use a few of the pieces for other things. The other two sets win out the longer you rest though.

[Judai]

You're missing a metric shitton of gear.

Pluto's Staff (+10)
Yigit Head (I lost lot on the one that drops from the Mamool - Volunteer's Khud - +3 on Khud, +2 on yigi)
Beak Necklace +1 (working on necklace from salvage, +3)
Relaxing Earring / Magnetic Earring (+2/+1, can use Antivenom instead of Magnetic)
Errant Body / Mage af1+1 (as long as it's 5 mp a tick or greater)
Genie Gages (buy from AH, piss poor drop rate, +1)
Invigorating Cape (10k AP, +1 hmp)
Qiqurn Sash +1 (+3)
Yigit Seraweels (+2)
Arborist Nails (+1, not as good drop rate, but very easy to camp/kill. Also very cheap..)

in short? Yigit by no means will be anywhere close to this. My first tick of MP fill is somewhere around 60 on my SMN, and caps out when I fill up at almost 100 a tick. (1200 MP and it's full before 2 minutes)

that's +31 not counting auto refresh (which is highly overrated, +3 resting per cycle of tick is not that big of a deal). Toss in a Wizard Cookie (which is all I use) and.. ya.

lol, I wasn't going to add all that stuff in, I just assumed he knew about the extras. Just did the quick math for the pieces he asked. Also, Yigit Turban is +1hmp.

[Secksi]

You're missing a metric shitton of gear.

Pluto's Staff (+10)
Yigit Head (I lost lot on the one that drops from the Mamool - Volunteer's Khud - +3 on Khud, +2 on yigi)
Beak Necklace +1 (working on necklace from salvage, +3)
Relaxing Earring / Magnetic Earring (+2/+1, can use Antivenom instead of Magnetic)
Errant Body / Mage af1+1 (as long as it's 5 mp a tick or greater)
Genie Gages (buy from AH, piss poor drop rate, +1)
Invigorating Cape (10k AP, +1 hmp)
Qiqurn Sash +1 (+3)
Yigit Seraweels (+2)
Arborist Nails (+1, not as good drop rate, but very easy to camp/kill. Also very cheap..)

in short? Yigit by no means will be anywhere close to this. My first tick of MP fill is somewhere around 60 on my SMN, and caps out when I fill up at almost 100 a tick. (1200 MP and it's full before 2 minutes)

that's +31 not counting auto refresh (which is highly overrated, +3 resting per cycle of tick is not that big of a deal). Toss in a Wizard Cookie (which is all I use) and.. ya.

You missed the point apparently. Please don't assume I won't use the slots that I didn't mention. I was simply comparing full Yigit vs it's counterparts in those 5 slots.

For the record I already have:

Pluto's Staff
Beak Necklace +1
Qiqirn Sash +1
Invigorating Cape
Antivenom Earring

Prior to Blm, I'm a 4x over melee so I have ethereal. I will be working on relaxing.

I'm only about 15k points from full yigit and I was wondering if it was worth spending 100k points on, or if it's best to mix and match, in which case I would probably only get the legs(edit- how good are the feet for nuking in? I guess I would get those too unless I'm overlooking an excellent nuke piece) since unless all the FFXI sites are wrong Yigit head is only +1 hMP, and the AF+1 body doubles as an excellent enfeebling piece. I'm fucking sorry I mentioned Yigit body instead of AF+1 coat in my alternative set.

Thanks Judai for actually answering the question.

[Secksi]

Not trying to be an asshole here, but is there a reason that the pieces that will remain static matter when comparing 5 slots that may or may not be close?

Edited out redundancy.

[Judai]

As I said in my post, directly answering what you were asking, Yigit for HMP purposes is a waste of time. Don't be an asshole - You never said directly "hay, in the 5 slots yigit takes up, is this better". This is the newbie thread, I have the right to explain everything, which I did. You just asked what is the better HMP set, and I answered. Don't be a dick. Thanks.

And sorry, Yigit head is +1, i had just woken up.

Full Yigit really isn't a waste of time. Yes, you can do better but considering people who have BLU need a hmp set as well and they can't wear 75% of the other stuff. Fulltime mage w/o BLU, sure the one set is the best. Need to save some inventory space or have BLU, Yigit is pretty solid.

[Seditedi]

That post didn't answer anything.. lol
The information is not even correct.
Full yigit will always beat out those 5 armor pieces you mentioned by a slight amount because of the refresh.
Yigit Turban(+1), Yigit Body(+5), Yigit Hands(+0), Yigit Seraweels(+2), Yigit Feet(+0).
+8 HMP and Refresh which is roughly equivalent to 2.2~ HMP but adds up more because you gain Refresh before the actual resting tick at 20 seconds.
versus
Yigit Turban(+1), Errant Hpl(+5), Genie Gages(+1), Yigit Seraweels(+2), Arborist Nails(+1)
+10 HMP

With that said full Yigit is definitely the better resting set.
If you have full Yigit and don't use it and don't use it you definitely should be unless you also have Goliard Clogs/Goliard Chapeau or Volunteer's Khud/Mahatma Hpl. Also Khud is +2 HMP not +3...
With that you can get: Goliard Chapeau/Khud(+2), Mahatma Hpl(+6), Genie Gages(+1), Yigit Seraweels(+2), Goliard Clogs(+3).
+14 HMP.

With that said Full Yigit is the best set for resting that is easiest to obtain. Khud/Chapeau aren't that easy to obtain in the optimal set I mentioned although clogs are pretty easy to get. Mahatma Hpl. is expensive and rare so that is also pretty hard to get.


I never got Yigit body, but my resting set consisted of Mahatma Hpl/AF1+1/Genie Gages/Yigit seraweels/Goliard Clogs on BLM for +13 HMP. Swapped AF1+1 for Yigit Turban on WHM and RDM.

[Rocl]

As I said in my post, directly answering what you were asking, Yigit for HMP purposes is a waste of time. Don't be an asshole - You never said directly "hay, in the 5 slots yigit takes up, is this better". This is the newbie thread, I have the right to explain everything, which I did. You just asked what is the better HMP set, and I answered. Don't be a dick. Thanks.

And sorry, Yigit head is +1, i had just woken up.

Full Yigit really isn't a waste of time. Yes, you can do better but considering people who have BLU need a hmp set as well and they can't wear 75% of the other stuff. Fulltime mage w/o BLU, sure the one set is the best. Need to save some inventory space or have BLU, Yigit is pretty solid.

In the set Elphaba posted, Blue Mage can wear every single piece of gear >_>

In fact, the only piece(s) of gear being discussed here that BLU can't wear is Goliard.

[Judai]

As I said in my post, directly answering what you were asking, Yigit for HMP purposes is a waste of time. Don't be an asshole - You never said directly "hay, in the 5 slots yigit takes up, is this better". This is the newbie thread, I have the right to explain everything, which I did. You just asked what is the better HMP set, and I answered. Don't be a dick. Thanks.

And sorry, Yigit head is +1, i had just woken up.

Full Yigit really isn't a waste of time. Yes, you can do better but considering people who have BLU need a hmp set as well and they can't wear 75% of the other stuff. Fulltime mage w/o BLU, sure the one set is the best. Need to save some inventory space or have BLU, Yigit is pretty solid.

In the set Elphaba posted, Blue Mage can wear every single piece of gear >_>

In fact, the only piece(s) of gear being discussed here that BLU can't wear is Goliard.

Sorry, I was talking about Goliard Clogs/G.Chap/V.Khud which are needed inorder to beat Full Yigit. Guess I exageratted a bit~


Elphaba's Set

Pluto's Staff +10
Yigit Head - +1
Beak Necklace +1 - +3
Relaxing Earring / Magnetic Earring +2/+1
Errant Body / Mage af1+1 - +5
Genie Gages - +1
Invigorating Cape -+1
Qiqirn Sash +1 - +3
Yigit Seraweels - +2
Arborist Nails - +1

+30hmp = 150mp/1m(5t)

My Set

Pluto's Staff +10
Yigit Head - +1
Beak Necklace +1 - +3
Relaxing Earring / Antivenom Earring +2/+1
Yigit Body - +5
Yigit Gages - 0
Invigorating Cape -+1
Qiqirn Sash +1 - +3
Yigit Seraweels - +2
Yigit Crackows - 0

+28hmp +Refresh(3.334hmp, not 2.2) = 31.334hmp +3.334 from refresh during first 10s of resting = 160mp/1m(5t+20rt)

Perfect Set (don't think I missed anything)

Pluto's Staff +10
Goliard/Khud - +2
Beak Necklace +1 - +3
Relaxing Earring / Magnetic Earring +2/+1
Mahatma - +6
Genie Gages - +1
Invigorating Cape -+1
Qiqirn Sash +1 - +3 (RDM can get Duelist's Belt+4hmp)
Yigit Seraweels - +2
Goliard Clogs - +3

+34hmp (+35hmp w/ rdm af2 belt) = 170mp/1m(5t) (175 w/ af2 belt)

So unless I messed up on the math or something I forgot about hmp, Elphaba's set isn't as good as Full Yigit.

It is a bit easier to get, since you don't need as many AP but by the numbers it is't as good. Add in Goliard Feet and you beat Full Yigit though. This is of course leaving out the fact that if you get up early and miss a tick, Yigit can win out because the Refresh was still ticking in between. Just trying to show, Yigit isn't a waste and it's great for those who need a bit of space because they have 8 jobs.

[Secksi]

Star Rings on the perfect set.

[Avé]

What the hell is the point of removing the region categorization in the search menu? I know I'm late, it's probably been this way since the update, but I just realized why it's been taking so long to find the area I'm looking for.

[Suiram]

What the hell is the point of removing the region categorization in the search menu? I know I'm late, it's probably been this way since the update, but I just realized why it's been taking so long to find the area I'm looking for.

Press the "+" key on the numeric keypad.

[Tyr]

I'm trying to figure out how to spread out my hp/mp merits.

Elvaan race, jobs are NIN SAM and RDM. I'm considering 4-4, but I don't know, having an 80MP+ pool seems really nice. If I go all-HP, my RDM will get marginally helped, if I go all-MP, my SAM won't really see a benefit unless I'm using Rune Halberd for some reason. All-MP would greatly benefit NIN/DRK tanking or RDM in general.

So how to split them?
NIN - benefits from either +HP or +MP
SAM - benefits only from +HP
RDM - benefits most from +MP

[Wintermute]

Xping on Colibri at 63 on RNG, Hitting for 90 Dmg on the dot every Bolt (Heavy XBow+1/Holy Bolts)

Using Velocity Shot I get 1-2 more Dmg per Bolt, Mithkabobs add 3 Dmg.

Nice DoT compared to the other pt members who do from 10-30 per hit (Thf/Nin/Dnc) but Slugshot averages 500-600. Not broken 700 once on Birds, though I did break 800 on Crawlers in Aydeewa at 62 last night.

I've been WS in TP/R.Acc gear since Slugwinder is iffy at best (and I'm trying to xp RNG on the cheap) but should I be seeing higher WS numbers?

Or is X-Bows forte DoT rather than WS Spike?

Macroing in DS Bolts when Unlimited Shot is up.
8/8 X-Bow, 5/5 STR if it matters =/

[Osede]

Xping on Colibri at 63 on RNG, Hitting for 90 Dmg on the dot every Bolt (Heavy XBow+1/Holy Bolts)

Using Velocity Shot I get 1-2 more Dmg per Bolt, Mithkabobs add 3 Dmg.

Nice DoT compared to the other pt members who do from 10-30 per hit (Thf/Nin/Dnc) but Slugshot averages 500-600. Not broken 700 once on Birds, though I did break 800 on Crawlers in Aydeewa at 62 last night.

I've been WS in TP/R.Acc gear since Slugwinder is iffy at best (and I'm trying to xp RNG on the cheap) but should I be seeing higher WS numbers?

Or is X-Bows forte DoT rather than WS Spike?

Macroing in DS Bolts when Unlimited Shot is up.
8/8 X-Bow, 5/5 STR if it matters =/

first, doesn't mithkabob does not give any r.atk?

[Judai]

Star Rings on the perfect set.

doh. star sapphires are way too rare.

[Wintermute]

blah

first, doesn't mithkabob does not give any r.atk?

It would appear it doesn't. But it's +STR and cheap.
Not as sad to see a bird steal that than Sole Sushi.

[shihei]

i thought markamanship relied more on agi rather then archery is str

[Cyn]

Both 90 a hit and 700 WS seem very low. But before I get into it, do you have a bard? This is NIN sub I assume? And no, mithkabobs had the +r.att removed from it years ago (I think when sushi came out), you'd be better off using coeurl subs for +r.att.

[Wintermute]

Both 90 a hit and 700 WS seem very low. But before I get into it, do you have a bard? This is NIN sub I assume? And no, mithkabobs had the +r.att removed from it years ago (I think when sushi came out), you'd be better off using coeurl subs for +r.att.

Yar, no BRD and /nin.

Tryng to figure out how to increase RNG efficiency but not having much luck.
Bit in the dark when it comes to melee/DD classes unfortunately.

[Awoir]

Use Coeurl sub.