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    Re: Randomer Question Thread

    With Haidate, ideally Black Belt, Usu are like wearable sexfeet.
    Without Haidate, but Relic Pants+Kick Merits, Dunes are an amazing option, also a rockin ass choice for HF zerging, since haste does jack and reduces Haidate to 7.5 Acc + Dex for Crits.

    Fed Kyahan are perfectly acceptable, as are stuff like various RSE/2 feet. If you had Sarutobi/Fuma's already, I'd use em cause well, 11% Haste is nice.

    Tabin +1 I would probably go for over Fed's, but I was also leveling Mnk with PCC/SH +1/Tiphia/all those yummy Acc options to try and swing meat well.

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    Re: Randomer Question Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by elphaba
    best crossbows for war and thf? any ideas on purdu xbow?
    Ziska's crossbow hands down. A crossbow is not a DPS weapon, having the incredible speed of the ziska's in addition to the added ranged accuracy makes Ziska's the best xbow for thief.

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    Ok, I recently obtained homam pants for my DRK & THF and I've started re-gearing my DRK that had been in retirement. I'm used to single hit WSs on SAM main, so there has been some frustration on my guillotine accuracy. I've since taken DRK into d.glacier and d.windy last night which left me wondering if I'm doing something wrong. Gear setups:

    TP
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    (Tred scythe, Neck is chiv, q_q justice)

    Perdu sickle and Amir boots are a major priority but with Nyzul it's hard to get the last 2(ish) ranks/assault points that I need. Not to mention the fact that I'm short about 12k IS. I'm working on getting burgeonet+1 which, while I want to, I'm not sure how I'll work it into the guillo set. I don't have a shell for sea jailers, sky, salvage, or HNM for some of the pieces that I'd like. Gil doesn't come too fast for me so upgrading things off the AH could take some time. The black cuisses that are shown above were a friend's but I'll be buying some as soon as they show up on the AH again. Fire bomblet is also a big piece that I will probably be working towards.

    Last night in windy I was having a horrible time with guillotine (Average of 822.7 in windy, /sam eating meat). I had borrowed a fire bomblet from a friend and even ended up guillo'ing in ohat, pcc, and askar dirs to try and get the acc% up on WS. Melee acc% was @ 92.92% but I was getting a LARGE number of 19(21=4hit, iirc)tp return guillotines, even with souleater. So...am I doing something wrong or was guillotine just being lame last night? Any other gear suggestions also welcome.

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    For what you have available to you, your pictured setup is perfect. If you don't have Scythe merits, get them.

    Also, upgrade your Chaos Sollerets +1 asap. Those are great for Guillotine. You could also go for a Moliones's set, you get +7 STR, extra base damage, the same Souleater bonus as AF1+ without giving up Turban/Optical Hat, and maintain your accuracy that you have on your ring now. Plus you wouldn't have to spend the IS on a Perdu Sickle. ;D

    Now a question of my own:

    For a primarily Great Axe WAR/SAM, should I merit 5 DA and 5 Berserk or 5 DA and 3 Berserk, 2 Aggressor? I have a lot of accuracy, including a Fortitude Torque, but no GA merits.

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    Re: Randomer Question Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Therin
    Now a question of my own:

    For a primarily Great Axe WAR/SAM, should I merit 5 DA and 5 Berserk or 5 DA and 3 Berserk, 2 Aggressor? I have a lot of accuracy, including a Fortitude Torque, but no GA merits.
    For the interest of your sanity, and clearing up your macro palette, I highly recommend keeping Berserk/Aggressor on synced timers. I've always used a 4/3/3 setup and never once had reason to regret it. 4 DA + Traits + Gear is more than enough.

    Obviously Aggressor isn't going to make or break you with the setup you've described, but you will notice it if you're fighting Mamool or have consider it a religious obligation, as I do, to Use Meat For Everything.

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    Re: Randomer Question Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by isladar
    Quote Originally Posted by Therin
    Now a question of my own:

    For a primarily Great Axe WAR/SAM, should I merit 5 DA and 5 Berserk or 5 DA and 3 Berserk, 2 Aggressor? I have a lot of accuracy, including a Fortitude Torque, but no GA merits.
    For the interest of your sanity, and clearing up your macro palette, I highly recommend keeping Berserk/Aggressor on synced timers. I've always used a 4/3/3 setup and never once had reason to regret it. 4 DA + Traits + Gear is more than enough.

    Obviously Aggressor isn't going to make or break you with the setup you've described, but you will notice it if you're fighting Mamool or have consider it a religious obligation, as I do, to Use Meat For Everything.
    Same here. 4/3/3 and don't look back. Hate having my timers unsynced.

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    Re: Randomer Question Thread

    57THF. Rapparre vs SH+1?

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    Re: Randomer Question Thread

    i think full aggressor/berserk is best

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    Re: Randomer Question Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by shaddix
    i think full aggressor/berserk is best
    For dual wielding, yes, but I pretty much only use Great Axe.

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    Re: Randomer Question Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Tricen
    57THF. Rapparre vs SH+1?
    I remember seeing a big argument in a THF gear thread. The consensus was that unless your acc is capped, go with SH. The increase in hits more than makes up for the haste.

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    I have 8%haste meleeing as it is. I figured 4% haste would make me miss faster, whereas 12acc would end up with more damage.

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    Re: Randomer Question Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Therin
    Quote Originally Posted by shaddix
    i think full aggressor/berserk is best
    For dual wielding, yes, but I pretty much only use Great Axe.
    i still think the extra time you get with be/ag outweigh the DA no matter the weapon, part of the reason is because on big monsters the extra berserk/aggressor is going to outweigh the DA. Another reason is because it will take an immense amount of time for you to actually *see* the benefit of those DA merits. I'm not saying the return isn't good, but the gain from merits on top of the JT and brutal will take a very long time to be noticeable. Also last reason is so timers are sync, i understand you can have sync timers and some DA merits, but I like the full zerk merits, and i think losing DA merits to max aggressor also isn't a very big sacrifice, if at all.

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    Re: Randomer Question Thread

    Newb questions:

    1 dex = 1 acc for a 2handed weapon, correct? And did they alter the fSTR formula? Is it still 2 STR for 1 base dmg for 2h, or did they put it back up to 4 STR?

    Also, what is a good, cheap lowbie food that would be good to use after Meat Jerky caps (around level 25~)?

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    Re: Randomer Question Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryushii
    Newb questions:

    1 dex = 1 acc for a 2handed weapon, correct? And did they alter the fSTR formula? Is it still 2 STR for 1 base dmg for 2h, or did they put it back up to 4 STR?

    Also, what is a good, cheap lowbie food that would be good to use after Meat Jerky caps (around level 25~)?
    1dex = .75acc now, or something close.

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    Re: Randomer Question Thread

    And did they alter the fSTR formula? Is it still 2 STR for 1 base dmg for 2h, or did they put it back up to 4 STR?
    ~4STR for 1 base damage, generally speaking, regardless of 1hander or 2hander at the moment. Only ranged attack is different in this respect.

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    Thought it was 1 Str/Dex = 0.8 Att/Acc, cause Rajas at 75 gives 4 Att even when I vary the amount of Str it's being added on too by one or two points to counter rounding.

    Also: I don't mind unsynched timers, I rarely find myself going "come on come on" on Agg timer, but am always riding the Zerk one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max™
    Thought it was 1 Str/Dex = 0.8 Att/Acc, cause Rajas at 75 gives 4 Att even when I vary the amount of Str it's being added on too by one or two points to counter rounding.

    Also: I don't mind unsynched timers, I rarely find myself going "come on come on" on Agg timer, but am always riding the Zerk one.
    its definitly 0.75. you cant really get an accurate value from changing 5 str only, take off all your str gear and clock your attack then put it all back on again and you will see its closer to 0.75. or just go naked bar 2h weapon with no modifiers and use 8 + combat skill + job traits + str*0.75 and that will match your attack

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    Re: Randomer Question Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Tricen
    57THF. Rapparre vs SH+1?
    I have 4 daggers merits and until colibri, I used harness because my accuracy was fine. But now even with sushi etc I miss so much on Colibri and now on the Eruca, it's pretty bad. So I guess I could say bring them both and put on the harness first and see how your accuracy parses, if its bad, slap on the SH. Its time for me to invest in one again.

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    Re: Randomer Question Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by elphaba
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    Quote Originally Posted by elphaba
    best crossbows for war and thf? any ideas on purdu xbow?
    Ziska's crossbow hands down. A crossbow is not a DPS weapon, having the incredible speed of the ziska's in addition to the added ranged accuracy makes Ziska's the best xbow for thief.
    Keeping in mind I already have a PCC, Snip+1, Barb Hands, oHat, etc, and will have full Marks Merits, it's still the right one?

    Yeah I'm waaaaaay planning ahead. x.x

    (i'll have marks capped before hitting 75 on thf, for certain)

    the way i've gauged is:

    Ziska's > Staur > Perdu?
    Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but there really is no way to test the latent on purdu right? It could have more r. acc then Ziska's and r.att to boot. Ziska's has nice low delay though, I think they should have put THF on machine crossbows. I guess Stauro's 4 agi is somewhat helpful...and how often does it proc intimidate on demons in dyna-xarca?

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