PCC vs Faith Torque for a merited Monk

[Derrida]

I used search and found only some generic discussion

Can someone explain because PCC is better than Faith? I red that base damage of Monk depends from the skill, but even if the skill of Faith Torque won't change base damage, the attack from weapon skill won't be of any use? If not, why?

Thanks :elmer:

[Not Seditedi]

Why would you not use Faith Torque?

[Derrida]

Because of this viewtopic.php?f=2&t=23753&p=729486&hilit=faith+tor que#p729486

Look at the first post.

[nsx]

According to what they are saying is 290-299 skill is the same for calculating base dmg.
You still have better accuracy w/ 299 over 290 h2h skill though.

Faith should also push you over 300 skill no? thus better acc AND 30 base dmg instead of 29.

Sea torques are better than PCC for their individual weapons on acc alone. mnk just gets the bonus of h2h skill applying to base dmg.

[Chupunpupun]

According to what they are saying is 290-299 skill is the same for calculating base dmg.
You still have better accuracy w/ 299 over 290 h2h skill though.

Faith should also push you over 300 skill no? thus better acc AND 30 base dmg instead of 29.

Sea torques are better than PCC for their individual weapons on acc alone. mnk just gets the bonus of h2h skill applying to base dmg.

299 is max h2h skill.

[Capo]

According to what they are saying is 290-299 skill is the same for calculating base dmg.
You still have better accuracy w/ 299 over 290 h2h skill though.

Faith should also push you over 300 skill no? thus better acc AND 30 base dmg instead of 29.

Sea torques are better than PCC for their individual weapons on acc alone. mnk just gets the bonus of h2h skill applying to base dmg.

wut?

[nsx]

7 skill is greater than 10 acc though right?

[Zirk]

Peacock charm is +10 accuracy, Faith Torque is +7~ accuracy and +7~attack, generally the extra 7ish attack is more desirable than the 3 accuracy.

[nsx]

so skill is a 1 to 1 relationship with acc? my mistake.

[Ferien]

so skill is a 1 to 1 relationship with acc? my mistake.

Slightly lower after 200 skill (but it's close enough)

[Anakron]

Peacock charm is +10 accuracy, Faith Torque is +7~ accuracy and +7~attack, generally the extra 7ish attack is more desirable than the 3 accuracy.

I don't mean to be nit-picky, but I thought it's ~6.3 of each since each skill = 0.9 acc and attack past 200? You probably knew this since you used ~, but at least for me, 7 attack over 3 accuracy is an easier choice to make than 6.3 attack over 3.7 acc. For my NIN, I'm not so sure I would replace my PCC with a Hope Torque even if I got one.

[Not Seditedi]

According to what they are saying is 290-299 skill is the same for calculating base dmg.
You still have better accuracy w/ 299 over 290 h2h skill though.

Faith should also push you over 300 skill no? thus better acc AND 30 base dmg instead of 29.

Sea torques are better than PCC for their individual weapons on acc alone. mnk just gets the bonus of h2h skill applying to base dmg.

wut?

wrong, only on 1 hit weapon skills that is true.

[moguri]

According to what they are saying is 290-299 skill is the same for calculating base dmg.
You still have better accuracy w/ 299 over 290 h2h skill though.

Faith should also push you over 300 skill no? thus better acc AND 30 base dmg instead of 29.

Sea torques are better than PCC for their individual weapons on acc alone. mnk just gets the bonus of h2h skill applying to base dmg.

wut?

wrong, only on 1 hit weapon skills that is true.

He was talking about torques and you're talking about gorgets, two different things.

[moguri]

Also, there is so much misinformation on this thread. If you don't know for sure, please don't say something as if you're speaking from authority, it just confuses people.

In terms of skill:
past 200, 1 skill = 1 attack, and 1 skill = 0.9 accuracy

So faith torque gives 7 attack, 6.3 accuracy (rounded down probably).

So the difference between the two are: 4 accuracy vs. 7 attack

Kind of a toss up, but since I use meat full time on MNK, i'd rather have the little extra accuracy than 7 attack. If I didn't have PCA and had PCC instead, I'd just sell because r/e + gil are good things.

[Not Seditedi]

According to what they are saying is 290-299 skill is the same for calculating base dmg.
You still have better accuracy w/ 299 over 290 h2h skill though.

Faith should also push you over 300 skill no? thus better acc AND 30 base dmg instead of 29.

Sea torques are better than PCC for their individual weapons on acc alone. mnk just gets the bonus of h2h skill applying to base dmg.

wut?

wrong, only on 1 hit weapon skills that is true.

He was talking about torques and you're talking about gorgets, two different things.

Yeah I'm retarded, dunno why I was reading gorget there lol.
Either way he's still wrong. PCC is the highest you can get for neck.

[orson]

I can't imagine that a mnk couldn't get enough acc in other slots. Usukane Feet, Usukane Mask, and Byakko's Haidate to name a few huge acc pieces not to mention ring and earring slots.

[moguri]

I can't imagine that a mnk couldn't get enough acc in other slots. Usukane Feet, Usukane Mask, and Byakko's Haidate to name a few huge acc pieces not to mention ring and earring slots.

What accuracy earrings do MNKs wear?

[Not Seditedi]

None I think lol.
Usually TP in Brutal/Merman's
WS in 2 Merman's? not sure.

[Ryoji]

Monk can wear Diabolos's earring. I swap Brutal out for Diabolos's for WS, unless I know I'm heading to a Dark weather area(Dynamis). I'll edit macro to swap in Ethereal XD

[Howard Roark]

I can't imagine that a mnk couldn't get enough acc in other slots. Usukane Feet, Usukane Mask, and Byakko's Haidate to name a few huge acc pieces not to mention ring and earring slots.

What accuracy earrings do MNKs wear?

hollow, but im gonna ditch it for ethereal for drg solo and pld, rdm etc

i got it cuz i was curious about a dex build and had no use for ethereal at the time