Hurricane Wing

[Breemer]

Try using fealty on PLD to see if it is non-elemental from fafhogg? I'm sure it will have been done but if the PLD takes full damage from it then it should have an element attached to it

[Ashira]

either faf wing is dark based, non elemental magic dmg, dark-based unresistable (nether blastish), or non elemental unresistable (nether blastish).

Or it could just ignore MDB like breath attacks, and still be wind based.

Most enfeebles match the element of mob TP moves, but many don't. Mindblast is thunder with para(ice), radiant breath is light with silence (wind) and slow (earth), magnetite cloud is earth with gravity (wind), water bomb is I'm going to guess water element and has added silence, etc.

Except wing doesn't ignore MDB.

[Chupunpupun]

But from other logic the name Hurricane would make you assume wind.
I don't know I think its dark lol.

Vrtra wing = Sleep and he is dark base.
Jimmy wing = Para and he is ice base.
Timmy wing = Plague and is fire base (but what element is plague?)

I think the wing damage is either wind or non-elemental with additional effects because with 300+ fire resist, you won't get plagued but you still take moderate damage from the wing.

I'd like to add that elemental wyrms were added during COP and their breath attacks reflects their element but ROZ wyrms uses flame breath, so if you go by their breath attacks, they are fire base. But I won't be surprise if SE throws a curve ball with this like with cursed sphere.

[Nirokun!]

i always used barwatera for the venom WS they had go me

[Valyana]

Pretty sure you're not going to resist Hurricane Wing no matter how hard you try, but if your WHM puts up Baraera either merited or with Blessed Briault on, the MDB should kick in.

Yep. Baraera MDB does reduce Wing damage. So, Wind.

[Alistaire]

Pretty sure it is Dark based due to add effect Blind on the wings :<

And Radiant Breath must be earth based cause of the slow effect. Or aero cause of the silence. Oh wait, turns out it's light-based.

[Alistaire]

Timmy wing = Plague and is fire base (but what element is plague?)

Plague, Virus, and Amnesia are all fire based.

How do you get that Amnesia is fire-based?

[chapstick]

Doesn't leviathan generally resist that off imps? That would make it either water or fire based me thinks.

[Indalecia]

Leviathan will resist amnesia 80% of the time and Ifrit never, I repeat NEVER, gets amnesia'd.

[Alistaire]

Leviathan will resist amnesia 80% of the time and Ifrit never, I repeat NEVER, gets amnesia'd.

Only 80%? I thought avatars always resisted both their element and the element they're strong against. But yeah, that makes sense.

[Indalecia]

Might be higher than 80%, but its not 100%. It'll happen every now and then.

[Dammerung]

235 nothing
235 baraera no briault
225 baraera briault
235 barfira no briault
235 barfira briault


So yea it does seem it is wind-based. Shell5 (3/3 meits) was on for all. I have no bar merits.

[Naver]

235 nothing
235 baraera no briault
225 baraera briault
235 barfira no briault
235 barfira briault


So yea it does seem it is wind-based. Shell5 (3/3 meits) was on for all. I have no bar merits.

Briault only adds MDB+5, at least from what otherwiki states. Still doubt Hurricane Wing is wind based from your numbers, as small as they are. I chalk up your 10 less dmg due to resist from MDB.

[Suiram]

Briault only adds MDB+5, at least from what otherwiki states. Still doubt Hurricane Wing is wind based from your numbers, as small as they are. I chalk up your 10 less dmg due to resist from MDB.

You can't chalk up something like that to 'resist from MDB', that's not how MDB works. What he wrote is pretty conclusive that it's wind based. And on a side note, although the other wiki says briault is MDB+5, the justification for it on the talk page works for MDB+4.

[Naver]

I'm sorry but you out of all people find, 5 numbers, to be conclusive with this test? lol

[Suiram]

I'm sorry but you out of all people find, 5 numbers, to be conclusive with this test? lol

There's no other plausible explanation for the damage reduction, and he controlled his variables well.

Edit: Also it would seem briault indeed gives MDB+5, as stated. Assume his only MDB is job trait (+ briault barspells when applicable), his only TMDA is from Shell V, and that wing damage is 368 (367 and 369 don't work):

floor(floor(368/1.16)*(190/256)) = 235 (no barspell MDB)
floor(floor(368/1.20)*(190/256)) = 227 (barspell MDB if +4)
floor(floor(368/1.21)*(190/256)) = 225 (barspell MDB if +5)

[Not Seditedi]

I'm sorry but you out of all people find, 5 numbers, to be conclusive with this test? lol

It's not a resist >_> MDB doesn't even cause resists, it reduces total magic damage taken.
If it were a resist the difference would be much more than 10 damage.

[Repairs]

I'm sorry but you out of all people find, 5 numbers, to be conclusive with this test? lol

There's no other plausible explanation for the damage reduction, and he controlled his variables well.

Edit: Also it would seem briault indeed gives MDB+5, as stated. Assume his only MDB is job trait (+ briault barspells when applicable), his only TMDA is from Shell V, and that wing damage is 368 (367 and 369 don't work):

floor(floor(368/1.16)*(190/256)) = 235 (no barspell MDB)
floor(floor(368/1.20)*(190/256)) = 227 (barspell MDB if +4)
floor(floor(368/1.21)*(190/256)) = 225 (barspell MDB if +5)

You kinda lost me at assuming.... So what will happened if he finds out in a week, that he takes 245 (no barspell MDB) from a hurricane wind?

[Suiram]

I don't really understand what you're trying to ask. If the assumptions are correct that his only MDB is from WHM job trait and his only magic damage cut is from his shell V, then he'd take 235 or 236 damage with barspell on if he took 245 without it under the same conditions. Does that answer your question?

[Callisto]

I have a strong feeling it is in fact dark, the same way Cursed Sphere is:

http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/gen...age.html<br />

If we get Faffles in Nyzul tonight I'm going to ask our WHM to break out DarkSpirit for a few minutes until it eats a Hurricane wing and see how much it takes, then go from there.

Edit: Not sure what's up w/ the link, copypasta it.