Item Search
     
BG-Wiki Search
Results 1 to 14 of 14

Thread: Goliard Cuffs vs. Z mitts     submit to reddit submit to twitter

  1. #1
    Puppetmaster
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Posts
    57
    BG Level
    2

    Goliard Cuffs vs. Z mitts

    I am a galka currently leveling blm (42 at the moment), and just got Goliard cuffs in nyzle isle. I don't have z mitts yet. I assume that Goliard cuffs are better (Magic Acc + 4 vs. Magic att bonus +1), but as a galka i don't have mp to spare. My question is should i still try and obtain z mitts?

  2. #2
    Black Belt
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Posts
    4,921
    BG Level
    7

    Re: Goliard Cuffs vs. Z mitts

    try to get Morrigan's Cuffs.

    Galka should use Zenith most of the time, other races probably wouldn't bother.

  3. #3
    New Merits
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Posts
    206
    BG Level
    4
    FFXI Server
    Odin

    Re: Goliard Cuffs vs. Z mitts

    Use both. After you use 50 mp, swap out the zenith mitts for the goliard cuffs.

  4. #4
    Physicist
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Posts
    4,492
    BG Level
    7
    FFXIV Character
    Raineer Severus
    FFXIV Server
    Hyperion
    FFXI Server
    Siren
    WoW Realm
    Area 52

    Re: Goliard Cuffs vs. Z mitts

    Quote Originally Posted by GImpers
    Use both. After you use 50 mp, swap out the zenith mitts for the goliard cuffs.
    Is 4 M.Acc really > 4 MAB for a decently (not insanely) geared BLM? Is the consensus M.acc works then?

  5. #5
    Old Merits
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Posts
    1,142
    BG Level
    6

    Re: Goliard Cuffs vs. Z mitts

    I don't see why you'd have to ask that. Goliard has both macc and matk. Yes, macc works, why wouldn't it?

  6. #6
    Tom Wilson will never be good.
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Posts
    13,471
    BG Level
    9
    FFXIV Character
    Zero Star
    FFXIV Server
    Hyperion
    FFXI Server
    Ifrit

    Re: Goliard Cuffs vs. Z mitts

    Quote Originally Posted by Raineer
    Quote Originally Posted by GImpers
    Use both. After you use 50 mp, swap out the zenith mitts for the goliard cuffs.
    Is 4 M.Acc really > 4 MAB for a decently (not insanely) geared BLM? Is the consensus M.acc works then?
    Goliard is 4macc AND 4mab, zmitts is 50mp and 5mab. For Galka I would go Zmitts. I used Goliard until I got Sorc Ring and then I got Morri Mitts anyways and now Zmitts are hp- macro only.

  7. #7
    Nidhogg
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Posts
    3,701
    BG Level
    7

    Re: Goliard Cuffs vs. Z mitts

    Usually a well-meritted and decently-geared BLM doesn't have trouble with resists except on a select collection of HNM, in which case (capped accuracy) you would of course get marginally better results from the 1 MAB. As for whether Macc "works" (I assume you mean is noticably effective in the proportions commonly available on gear) I think it's underrated by the community in general, myself. That's just from my own observations though, nothing quantitative. Nobody ever really tests Macc+X vs. Skill+Y or INT/MND+Z, and as those kind of tests take lots of time and statistics, I don't know how soon we can expect anyone to for that matter.

  8. #8
    New Spam Forum
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Posts
    169
    BG Level
    3

    Re: Goliard Cuffs vs. Z mitts

    Quote Originally Posted by Raineer
    Quote Originally Posted by GImpers
    Use both. After you use 50 mp, swap out the zenith mitts for the goliard cuffs.
    Is 4 M.Acc really > 4 MAB for a decently (not insanely) geared BLM? Is the consensus M.acc works then?

    the difference isn't 4 MAB. the cuffs have +4 the mitts +5. the OP meant 1 MAB is lost. not the total is 1. is giving up 1 MAB worth 4 MACC is what i believe he meant.

    edit: beaten by Judai

  9. #9
    Puppetmaster
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Posts
    57
    BG Level
    2

    Re: Goliard Cuffs vs. Z mitts

    Thank you for the quick responses. :D I will get Z-mitts for now and start working toward Morrigan's Cuffs.

  10. #10
    New Merits
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Posts
    248
    BG Level
    4

    Re: Goliard Cuffs vs. Z mitts

    Goliard cuffs should be satisfactory for most of your nuking needs.

    Max MP set is hard to utilize on BLM since--even if I'm at max MP, I may soon need to hit Stoneskin (Yigit hands, +0 MP) or an enfeeble (M.C. bracelets, +0 MP). Also, it's rare to rest to full in the first place. When soloing, I rest to about 75% MP then fish next mob. In Dyna or Limbus, I rest to about 50% then rejoin the fray. Galka judgment may differ though.

  11. #11
    Banned.

    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    2,590
    BG Level
    7

    Re: Goliard Cuffs vs. Z mitts

    I'd say use galka RSE2 hands (+65 mps) when you need mp and keep Goliard cuff. If you are serious about blm, aim for yigit gages as they will increase you dmg for ~5 on tier IV, and eventually morrigan cuffs, which will icrease by another 5 dmg. This saves you the trouble of doing sky. The only reason you'd need A:hands, is if you want to make use of Sorcerer's ring latent effect imo.

  12. #12
    Sea Torques
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    579
    BG Level
    5

    Re: Goliard Cuffs vs. Z mitts

    Unless i'm meriting/rebuffering I use af+1 hands. That much skill can't be ignored. If it came down to it I'd use zenith for sorc latent and first 50mp then swap into goliard cuffs, but for me af1+1.

  13. #13
    ٩๏̯͡๏)۶

    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Posts
    12,248
    BG Level
    9
    FFXI Server
    Asura
    WoW Realm
    Barthilas

    Re: Goliard Cuffs vs. Z mitts

    Goliard are good enough, if you're a HNM BLM, you shouldn't really run into many MP issues, if you're exp'ing though on flans or something where you should have a decent chunk of MP, it's possible you'll run out there earlier than the others.

    In order of my preference , highest to lowest :

    Morrigan
    Goliard
    Zenith+1
    Zenith

    That would be for the "MAB" hands. I'd definitely sacrifice 1 MAB for 4 magic acc (or sacrifice 0 and gain 5 macc in case of morri), because a nuke that lands costs less than the MP and time you'll be spending to make up for a resist.

  14. #14
    sb
    sb is offline
    Sea Torques
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Posts
    575
    BG Level
    5

    Re: Goliard Cuffs vs. Z mitts

    I'd put AF+1 above Z mitts and goilard (even reg AF above Zmitts, though i'd be 50/50 on the goilard) , unless you are nuking something that doesn't have a chance of resisting you. 15 skill is big. Though strictly between the two I'd go with goilard.

    Edit: you commented on your poor galka mp, but understand, a big mp bank will only do so much. How much hMP you have is what is really important.

Similar Threads

  1. Goliard Clogs Vs Advocat Pigaches
    By Valdan in forum FFXI: Everything
    Replies: 44
    Last Post: 2009-01-26, 23:20
  2. Goliard Chapeau vs Elite beret
    By idklol in forum FFXI: Everything
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 2009-01-20, 21:50
  3. Oracle's Pigaches vs. Goliard Clogs for BRD debuffs
    By Xerlic in forum FFXI: Everything
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 2008-06-28, 13:44
  4. Sch Magic acc question Cobra Vs Goliard
    By jimbobsonofgod in forum FFXI: Everything
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 2008-04-03, 18:58
  5. Nashira Crackows vs Goliard Clogs
    By yoshizz in forum FFXI: Everything
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: 2007-12-07, 21:20
  6. Kiting vs Marathoning
    By Benadar in forum FFXI: Everything
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 2004-10-24, 20:27
  7. Hello PLD VS NIN for HNM
    By Sabre in forum FFXI: Everything
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 2004-10-07, 09:49