Anon vs. Scientology

[Kytele]

This is gonna be fun. Anybody else going to the Hollywood site on March 15th?

I'll be there taking pictures and handing out fliers. I used to work at a print shop and still know the owners so I got a mean discount.

[Lujei]

Fresh from the grill. . .
CoS has decided to file a restraining order against "Anonymous." I'm really interested on seeing how they pull it off, and how many courts they need to pay off to do so.
Representatives of Anonymous could not be reached for comment.

Scientology fights back in court

The church is seeking a restraining order to stop a new round of protests.

By Robert Farley, Times Staff Writer
Published March 12, 2008
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CLEARWATER - With the Internet activist group Anonymous threatening a second round of protests against Scientology this weekend, the Clearwater-based church went to court late Tuesday, filing a petition for a temporary restraining order.

The petition was filed just before the close of court Tuesday afternoon, and the St. Petersburg Times could not obtain a copy of the petition.

Pat Harney, a spokeswoman for the Church of Scientology in Clearwater, confirmed the church had filed a request for a temporary restraining order, but on the advice of counsel, she refused to provide a copy of the lawsuit or discuss who it seeks to restrain.

Anonymous, which describes itself as a loosely affiliated group united against the injustices perpetrated by Scientology, coalesced in January after a video of Scientologist Tom Cruise was leaked to YouTube and then promptly removed because of threats from Scientology attorneys.

Members of Anonymous claimed this was an affront to the freedom of the Internet. A video message from Anonymous taunting the leaders of Scientology received more than 2-million views on YouTube.

On Feb. 10, some 200 people participated in an Anonymous-organized demonstration against Scientology in downtown Clearwater. Similar protests were held in cities around the world.

In Clearwater, church security videotaped and photographed protesters, most of whom disguised their faces with fake beards, face paint, scarves and bandannas.

While Anonymous Web sites ask members to protest peacefully and state they mean no harm to Scientology's members, Harney said, "we have evidence to the contrary."

Before the lawsuit was filed Tuesday, Harney said the church has documented threats made by members of Anonymous, and provided those threats to Clearwater police. "Of course, we are concerned about the safety of our group," Harney said.

Representatives of Anonymous could not be reached for comment.

This weekend's protests by Anonymous - dubbed "Party Hard" - were timed to coincide with Scientology's annual celebration of founder L. Ron Hubbard's birthday on Thursday.

According to Web sites affiliated with Anonymous, members of the group plan to protest in 50 cities worldwide. In Clearwater, they will gather Friday evening outside Ruth Eckerd Hall, where Scientology will hold its annual gala event.

A larger protest is planned Saturday in downtown Clearwater, where the church's international religious headquarters are located. "We are taking every security measure we can," Harney said. "We are not taking this lightly."

Source:
http://forums.enturbulation.org/viewtop ... =12&t=6667
http://www.sptimes.com/2008/03/12/North ... s_ba.shtml

[Shuvo]

That's so pathetic lol.

I'm not familiar with American law but isn't the right to protest something guarenteed by the constitution?

[Lujei]

Pretty much. The First Amendment of the US Constitution says:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

[Stumblingdrunk]

That's so pathetic lol.

I'm not familiar with American law but isn't the right to protest something guarenteed by the constitution?

Nothing is "guaranteed" by the constitution anymore

[Dezso]

the right of the people peaceably to assemble

The bolded part is what would actually make Scientology win in court. If they can prove that Anon is NOT assembling peacefully, with an intent to do harm, they can win. That is the most likely going to be the view they try to imprint to the court. That and $$$

[jmc]

I'll be at the Boston one next Friday.

Got any info on the boston one? I havent heard anything in awhile

[Cjskater]

the right of the people peaceably to assemble

The bolded part is what would actually make Scientology win in court. If they can prove that Anon is NOT assembling peacefully, with an intent to do harm, they can win. That is the most likely going to be the view they try to imprint to the court. That and $$$

anon had many video cameras there for a reason, point the court to youtube.

[Rayvlin]

Mark Bunker is currently on the radio if anyone is interested in listening.

http://www.983wowfm.com/article.asp?id=507304

[Lujei]

I'll be at the Boston one next Friday.

Got any info on the boston one? I havent heard anything in awhile

I'm not in that area, but try this thread:
http://forums.enturbulation.org/viewtop ... =51&t=2176

Update about he restraining order:
They're apparently stating their reasons as a "bomb threat" (that Youtube movie that was removed when Anonymous called the FBI for an investigation, suspected to be planted by the OSA) and "gun fire" that has never happened around Clearwater.
The restraining order has 22 names on it.

[HAcoreRD]

the right of the people peaceably to assemble

The bolded part is what would actually make Scientology win in court. If they can prove that Anon is NOT assembling peacefully, with an intent to do harm, they can win. That is the most likely going to be the view they try to imprint to the court. That and $$$

anon had many video cameras there for a reason, point the court to youtube.

Youtube will take them down, like the original message

[Lordwafik]

the right of the people peaceably to assemble

The bolded part is what would actually make Scientology win in court. If they can prove that Anon is NOT assembling peacefully, with an intent to do harm, they can win. That is the most likely going to be the view they try to imprint to the court. That and $$$

anon had many video cameras there for a reason, point the court to youtube.

Youtube will take them down, like the original message

A big pity youtube is the only video host on the internet.

[archibaldcrane]

anon had many video cameras there for a reason, point the court to youtube.

Youtube will take them down, like the original message

I don't think youtube has taken down any recordings of the protest, and I doubt they will.

Mine is still up, and I hope to add to it on Saturday.

[Shuvo]

Oh man, inside sources have confirmed the Clearwater CoS are planning to instigate violence between the anon protests and their own counter protests made up of of Scientology children.

http://forums.enturbulation.org/viewtop ... &sk=t&sd=a

by lermanet_com on Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:48 am

OK... taps microphone, I need everyone's attention, especially LA Anons and Clearwater...
This is from my telephone notes regarding what the OT Committe members were told
during the super duper secret OSA briefing. Dont ask me questions cause Im telling you all I know.

This will be no surprise, my source is certain that Scientology is planning to choreograph an incident of violence, using their children. this was implied, I don't have the exact words just the summation, that Scientology wants and desires a confrontation.. they would LIKE to create a riot..

OT committee member and their families, public scientologists And their families are invited for a pancake breakfast at 9 AM... the children will be doing fun things like "Face painting"

If you did not know about the facepainting you might THINK they were demonstrators, right?

The "breakfast will start at 9:30, bring the kids "face painting and clowns"

Nota Bene: Scientology NEVER says bring the kids....cause the kids don't have wallets.

Buses will take you at 11 AM to the respective locations of the event, Ruth Eckart Hall in CW and in LA the Shrine..
The LRH event WILL BE this saturday.

(methinks so that if one of them gets knocked down by one of THEIR operatives, it will be plain to see its a scientologist kid)

They will be putting their nastiest pieces of work on the front lines to get the protestors spun up and angry, using fighting words. They hope to crate enough confusion so that their perpetrators of a choreographed incident will escape and protestors will get blamed.

And this rubbish is has the gall to call themselves church?, Im sorry I dont have 'clearer' notes.. I will read replies and try to ask my sources questions as posed but I need to write another brief..

Fucking scumbags.

Edit: for clarification, The Clearwater churche will be organizing children events (clowns + facepainting) on the very day as the planned protest, while the Australian churches will be having counter protests comprised of their children.

[Tyr]

Oh man, inside sources have confirmed the Clearwater CoS are planning to instigate violence between the anon protests and their own counter protests made up of of Scientology children.

http://forums.enturbulation.org/viewtop ... &sk=t&sd=a

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Fucking scumbags.

Wow

I can't wait until they make a movie about this.

[Warudo Ecksu]

thats fucked up beyond words bringing kids into this. the bf and i are planning on going to the protest in san francisco so i hope CoS doesnt pull any crazy shit there

[jmc]

Oh man, inside sources have confirmed the Clearwater CoS are planning to instigate violence between the anon protests and their own counter protests made up of of Scientology children.

http://forums.enturbulation.org/viewtop ... &sk=t&sd=a

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Fucking scumbags.

Wow

I can't wait until they make a movie about this.

Should have the "main protestor" contact police telling them that everyone is gonna be wearing something that matchs..... even if its like a blue bandana on everyones arm. Then contact the police and inform them, if they dont have a blue bandana....... they arnt with anon

[Shuvo]

Should have the "main protestor" contact police telling them that everyone is gonna be wearing something that matchs..... even if its like a blue bandana on everyones arm. Then contact the police and inform them, if they dont have a blue bandana....... they arnt with anon

Nah I disagree... that idea is easily circumvented (Nothing stopping a Scilon from getting a blue bandanna themselves), not to mention it would be troublesome for everyone to find a blue bandanna on short notice.

What the people on Enturb and somethingawful forums are suggesting is to just organize people to sit down if something happens. That way their won't be any confusion for any instigators to escape through, then they will be easily identified and arrested... and if it is proven to be a Scilon plant, it will generate massively good PR for the movement.

[Remyo]

blue bandanas are bad idea.

[jmc]

blue bandanas are bad idea.

Just first color that came to mind, even knowing about really any color/sport symbol being linked to gang activity.

Also, theres always a C/O from local police departments there monitoring the protestors. Might be good to find out who it is, have a nice chat with him/her and show the department what is expected to happen.