Opinions for Job Adjustments

[Sanjiyan]

You want to know which jobs need attention? Check the alliance the next time you go to your ground camps, your salvages, your dynamis, your lolEinhenjar or your big events that make end game players so leet. Check it out. What jobs are missing on a constant basis? Yup, those are the ones that need a bump, a real bump.

Nicely said. When's the last time I saw a RNG? Hmm, I can't remember. BST too. I thought I saw some in dynamis when I first joined my dynamis shell years ago, but while the same players are there, the job is gone. Nobody ever brings SMNs to dynamis either.

[Shuemue]

RNG are used by lots of linkshells for lots of events. Just because YOURS doesn't use them doesn't mean nobody does. Same with SMN.

[Maxxthepenguin]

RNG are used by lots of linkshells for lots of events. Just because YOURS doesn't use them doesn't mean nobody does. Same with SMN.

WHAT?!?!?!

Here I was, thinking everybody did everything the same way. Next you're going to tell me there's a server where people don't always bot everything

[Sanjiyan]

Are you saying RNG is fine as it is right now?

[LD]

What, there's something wrong with it? They Got VS, they're good. I still remember how happy they were about their damage when they started using it, takes a lot to do that to VZX. Being used isn't the issue, it's how useful it is when it is used. SMN may need a bit of help (wait, what?), but the hate-less element of their damage will always be a big plus in their favor.

[Kerberoz]

RNG are used by lots of linkshells for lots of events. Just because YOURS doesn't use them doesn't mean nobody does. Same with SMN.

Actually the only shells who use a lot of SMN are the ones who lack the ability to tank a mob that uses TP moves more than once a minute.

[LD]

Just had a horrible SMN thread flashback, maybe it's time this cools down.

[Sanjiyan]

It's a great addition, no doubt. But like now broken defense is (in the bad way), ranged accuracy is broken too and it could use some work imo. No reason why velocity shot couldn't confer a ranged accuracy bonus.

The biggest problem, if you want to call it that, is still the slowness of the ranged attack. Even with velocity shot and snap shot, I find it hard to get a shot off in the time it takes a hasted melee to get one and a half, if not two, rounds of attack. Rapid shot isn't always as reliable or procs as often as double attack or one of the many multi hit weapons out there. Without mentioning damage, the biggest drawback is the TP gain without going /SAM. It takes a relatively long time to gain TP on my RNG compared to other people.

People have been talking about double shot or something similar to that effect. SAMs got mini-meikyo shisui, why not give RNGs mini-barrages as a JT? Or make some equipment with the "occasionally shoots twice".


The whole sweet spot thing can be improved upon too. If SE's intention is to discourage melee RNG, why still apply a ranged accuracy and damage penalty when standing further away from the sweet spot? By logic it doesn't make sense to do that, and by common sense (lol common sense in a game) it doesn't either. Fine, they make RNGs miss if the mobs go out of range (when they could've just interrupt the /ra like magic but instead make RNGs waste an arrow anyway), but what's up with the extra penalty?

[Gunslinger]

.....The two shittiest jobs in the game were fixed last update, I think its alright to discuss the rest now.

I see your mnk and raise you a bst.

Back of the line buddy, mnk can have some shiny new toys once bst has somewhere to hang its hat. If anyone disagrees that bst needs more help than any of the other jobs available... well, then I doubt you've played bst.

But I agree, those whole thread could use a cool down. But it is fun watching people get mad about their "main job" and talk about how much more important it is that they get something before anyone else. Stop the presses.

[LD]

k, ya got me there. after all the crap they've been doing for BST lately, it still kinda sucks.

[ronin sparthos]

Are you saying RNG is fine as it is right now?

RNG just needs more Snapshot gear, incentive to use something other than a Vali/E.Bow and more reasons to use the ammo that no one cares about. Gear updates. Machine Crossbow and Obow are pretty sweet weapons as well.

Velocity Shot was a pretty good JA boost for RNG, i think its just the lack of DoT (holy bolt setup is pretty nice sometimes) that does Ranger in. More DoT and the job would pretty sweet for what it is.

Another issue was the lack of a middle ground besides Slugwinder, though SE attempted to fix this with the Detonator/Empyreal Arrow tweaks - they at least recognized a problem.

[Shuemue]

RNG are used by lots of linkshells for lots of events. Just because YOURS doesn't use them doesn't mean nobody does. Same with SMN.

Actually the only shells who use a lot of SMN are the ones who lack the ability to tank a mob that uses TP moves more than once a minute.

Actually, no. You're an idiot. Crawl back under your gimp blm/rdm only rock.

[FinalJustice]

The only thing i see ppl throw SMNs at these days are wyrms... and even then...
Though i did see this one LS on Midgard throw 6 smns at Cerberus... though i cant recall their name.

[zoobernut]

I agree with the idea that rng for the most part is set up well right now JA wise. I think it does need some alternate weapons/ammo it is sad that the end-all endgame bow is vali/e-bow (besides relic)

[Nirokun!]

mnk is the best at blunt damage. there, its the bestest best at something, with no runner's up anywhere in sight.

ok then!

i used my summoner today to kill the sandy (s) quest NM, then do the bastok (s) fight with kuno's scholar. it was earthsday and he gave me sandstorm, so i used my free titan to spank monsters and give myself a 339? elemental siphon. we had fun.

[Maxxthepenguin]

mnk is the best at blunt damage. there, its the bestest best at something, with no runner's up anywhere in sight.

Staff Paladin

[Drunkenmonk]

mnk is the best at blunt damage. there, its the bestest best at something, with no runner's up anywhere in sight.

Staff Paladin

relic DD whm!

[Nirokun!]

NO RUNNERS UP

[SeraphusRagnarok]

DRG with Boudanasse?

[Kkel]

BLU Dual Wielding Flan Smasher/Seveneyes with Head Butt, Frenetic Rip, Hysteric Barrage, so on, so forth...