Kimbo Slice: Mr. T IRL

[Shuemue]

Shit, I wouldn't wanna fight them.

[Chips]

that was like 10 years ago, and that guy is like an inner city cop, former ranger or green beret or some crap, and has done pro mma


funny fight

he's a boston cop...almost got fired for that video. he fought once in the UFC after that video got popular...lost by TKO in the first round. he hasn't fought since then and that was in 2005. he was an average fighter at best. anyone with a skillset will tear kimbo apart.

Although I agree that there is A LOT of hype surrounding Kimbo, we shouldn't count him out just quite yet. He trains everyday with Bas on his ground game. In actuality, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if Kimbo actually makes it big in MMA (not due to his name, but do to the potential skills he will learn along the way. Don't forget, he's still new to the sport, so it's going to be a while before we see much improvement to his game.)

[melbufrauma]

tank abbot is old and would get his ass beat

[noblemountain]

he has been training with bas...for a couple months. if you know bas, you also know he isn't training on his ground game...he's working on effective combinations. bas is primarily a standup fighter and that's what he trains. good muay thai striking. i'm sure he's gone over some basic ground stuff with kimbo, but really...what's the point? kimbo's 33 years old...can't even spell jiu jitsu. your average fighter has trained jiu jitsu for 10 years. i'm by no means a great fighter and i've got 12 years of jiu jitsu, 15 years of judo, have wrestled most my life, and am a level 4 us. army combatives teacher while i was a ranger. all that...and i felt dumb when i started training at miletich camp. lol. i learned a TON in a short period of time there and learned how to apply all that knowledge. without a good base...i can't imagine how long it would take to get a good base in wrestling or jiu jitsu.

[Chips]

he has been training with bas...for a couple months. if you know bas, you also know he isn't training on his ground game...he's working on effective combinations. bas is primarily a standup fighter and that's what he trains. good muay thai striking. i'm sure he's gone over some basic ground stuff with kimbo, but really...what's the point? kimbo's 33 years old...can't even spell jiu jitsu. your average fighter has trained jiu jitsu for 10 years. i'm by no means a great fighter and i've got 12 years of jiu jitsu, 15 years of judo, have wrestled most my life, and am a level 4 us. army combatives teacher while i was a ranger. all that...and i felt dumb when i started training at miletich camp. lol. i learned a TON in a short period of time there and learned how to apply all that knowledge. without a good base...i can't imagine how long it would take to get a good base in wrestling or jiu jitsu.

Obviously he isn't being trained into a BJ Penn on the ground, but he's being taught specifics so that when he ends up on his back, he knows what he's doing. I'm sure what Kimbo is going to do is work on his take-down defense to keep things mostly on the feet. I mean, look at Chuck Liddell. His ground game is nothing short of meh, but his take-down def. is what makes him who he is. You don't necessarily need a great ground game to succeed, although it is good to have. I foresee a bright future in Kimbo for the next five to six years.

[noblemountain]

I foresee a bright future in Kimbo for the next five to six years.

i foresee him either being fed chumps for a year or 2 then fading into oblivion...or getting ktfo in the next year and fading out quicker.

[whynam]

I foresee a bright future in Kimbo for the next five to six years.

i foresee him either being fed chumps for a year or 2 then fading into oblivion...or getting ktfo in the next year and fading out quicker.

i hope he does well in mma, he reminds me of houston alexander. freakin beast with raw power. also a note, his mma interviews, he seems to be very humble about all of it.

someone i would like to see go away is brock lesnar lol

[Andarvi]

What is the main thing you get from being good at jiu jitsu? Is it the straight up defense, anticipation of attacks, evading, countering, what? I've heard that a jiu jitsu master could defeat just about any other martial arts discipline out there, is that true?

[archibaldcrane]

What is the main thing you get from being good at jiu jitsu? Is it the straight up defense, anticipation of attacks, evading, countering, what? I've heard that a jiu jitsu master could defeat just about any other martial arts discipline out there, is that true?

They win via submissions on the ground, often while "defending" on their backs.

[Blarg]

Jui jitsu is weird in that you really don't see yourself in trouble until its too late, you can see a punch or kick coming but many submissions seem to go from no danger to broken arm in just a few seconds. It's one of those disciplines where you have to be trained in it to stand a chance at all, pretty much the reason Royce Gracie destroyed most everyone he fought that didn't have 100+ pounds on him is because the other fighters put themselves in bad positions to get submitted so easily from lack of experience.

[Chips]

What is the main thing you get from being good at jiu jitsu? Is it the straight up defense, anticipation of attacks, evading, countering, what? I've heard that a jiu jitsu master could defeat just about any other martial arts discipline out there, is that true?

If you had a Karate master, Judo master, Tae Kwon Doe master, boxer, kickboxer, Muay Thai, and a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu master all go at it one vs. one, and they only each knew that discipline, then yes, BJJ comes out on top by a long shot. And jiu-jitsu isn't just straight up defense, but it's supposed to be a martial art that no matter how large your opponent is, the person who knows the more moves will win the match (BJJ is chokes and joint-locks).

I foresee a bright future in Kimbo for the next five to six years.

i foresee him either being fed chumps for a year or 2 then fading into oblivion...or getting ktfo in the next year and fading out quicker.

Of course he's going to be fed chumps for the next year or so, you should know that you don't go straight to the top of competition right away. Unless you're Brock Lesnar.

[Deejay]

he has been training with bas...for a couple months. if you know bas, you also know he isn't training on his ground game...he's working on effective combinations. bas is primarily a standup fighter and that's what he trains. good muay thai striking. i'm sure he's gone over some basic ground stuff with kimbo, but really...what's the point? kimbo's 33 years old...can't even spell jiu jitsu. your average fighter has trained jiu jitsu for 10 years. i'm by no means a great fighter and i've got 12 years of jiu jitsu, 15 years of judo, have wrestled most my life, and am a level 4 us. army combatives teacher while i was a ranger. all that...and i felt dumb when i started training at miletich camp. lol. i learned a TON in a short period of time there and learned how to apply all that knowledge. without a good base...i can't imagine how long it would take to get a good base in wrestling or jiu jitsu.

Obviously he isn't being trained into a BJ Penn on the ground, but he's being taught specifics so that when he ends up on his back, he knows what he's doing. I'm sure what Kimbo is going to do is work on his take-down defense to keep things mostly on the feet. I mean, look at Chuck Liddell. His ground game is nothing short of meh, but his take-down def. is what makes him who he is. You don't necessarily need a great ground game to succeed, although it is good to have. I foresee a bright future in Kimbo for the next five to six years.

Actually, he's from south florida and I heard him on a radio interview on my way home from work. He's been training for a year now, and is learning a lot of ground submissions. He admitted though that he gets put into submissions a lot while training, and that he's never tapped out. He said he'd rather fall asleep and have you wake him up than tap out. To me, that's the only real way he can work on his pain threshold because let's be honest, his got a rock solid chin.

If he keeps training hard, working on his stamina, and learning how to counter submissions with grapples of his own, I think this guy could be a beast.

And on top of that, he's really really humble. He said he earned a lot of money with his first 2 pro bouts (that lasted all of 1 minute combined) he's investing it and just making sure that his family had a future should he lose sooner than he thinks.

The guys ghetto but he's certainly got his head in the right place.

[wyrmtung]

The dude is 34 and has gray hair in his beard. He's going to be one of those guys that the true MMA's use to pad their records.

But I do remember that Youtube fight in the backyard. I saw it many years ago and it still makes an impression on me today. Whenever I catch myself wishing I was born lucky like Paris Hilton or Bill Gate's kids, all I have to do is think, well at least I was raised in the suburbs and didn't have to bare knuckle fight Kimbo in some backyard for some grocery money.

[Deejay]

Whenever I catch myself wishing I was born lucky like Paris Hilton or Bill Gate's kids, all I have to do is think, well at least I was raised in the suburbs and didn't have to bare knuckle fight Kimbo in some backyard for some grocery money.

Holy shit can I sig that?

[noblemountain]

while jiu jitsu is one of my loves...it's not the most "superior" martial art by any means. the caliber of the fighters determines where the fight is fought and i.e...who has the advantage. a great muay thai fighter will clinch and knock out just about anyone, a great judokan will slam and control just about anyone, a great jiu jitsu fighter will pull guard and tap out just about anyone...hence why we have MIXED martial arts now. just studying one style will get you destroyed. you have to have a good background in jiu jitsu just so you can avoid being submitted. the crap about he's "never tapped" in practice is junk. i don't care who you are, if you're not tapping in practice, you aren't training properly.

as far as how "great of a family guy" he is or how humble he is... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lYTACjv ... re=related

he's an overhyped brawler who'll get knocked out or submitted the first time he faces a real opponent.

[Blarg]

He was a bodyguard for a porn company so I'm not really sure what that video serves. In all the interviews I've seen of him he seems like a respectable guy, he doesn't have to portray the same attitude as when he was a street fighter.

[Remyo]

while jiu jitsu is one of my loves...it's not the most "superior" martial art by any means. the caliber of the fighters determines where the fight is fought and i.e...who has the advantage. a great muay thai fighter will clinch and knock out just about anyone, a great judokan will slam and control just about anyone, a great jiu jitsu fighter will pull guard and tap out just about anyone...hence why we have MIXED martial arts now. just studying one style will get you destroyed. you have to have a good background in jiu jitsu just so you can avoid being submitted. the crap about he's "never tapped" in practice is junk. i don't care who you are, if you're not tapping in practice, you aren't training properly.

as far as how "great of a family guy" he is or how humble he is... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lYTACjv ... re=related

he's an overhyped brawler who'll get knocked out or submitted the first time he faces a real opponent.

thank you for making the best points in this thread.

To be quite honest with you, a Tank Abbott is no real test...

regardless he's better than bo cantrell.

I mean, look at Chuck Liddell. His ground game is nothing short of meh, but his take-down def. is what makes him who he is. You don't necessarily need a great ground game to succeed, although it is good to have. I foresee a bright future in Kimbo for the next five to six years.

just because he doesn't submit people doesn't mean he doesn't have a ground game. hi2u 10 years in jiu jitsu and a purple belt.

The dude is 34 and has gray hair in his beard. He's going to be one of those guys that the true MMA's use to pad their records.

exactly extremely late to be starting.



kinda funny this kimbo slice nuthugging came out of nowhere

[Deftscythe]

Isn't Mr. T already Mr. T IRL?

[Blarg]

Isn't Mr. T already Mr. T IRL?

Mr. T is from the WoW game idiot. Not everything in a game is real sheesh.

[archibaldcrane]

kinda funny this kimbo slice nuthugging came out of nowhere

He's extremely charismatic, he has "street cred" (which doesn't mean much in the octagon but is good for being a fan favorite in any discipline), and his fighting "makes sense" - he punches people and they fall down. Half the time I see a submission in MMA the guy getting submitted taps out once he realizes he's fucked - as an audience member it's sometimes hard to tell exactly why he tapped, which isn't exciting.

Kimbo is fun to watch, which is why many people hope he succeeds.