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[ronin sparthos]

They did it with Salvage, its only logical to think that an 'upgrade' system is going to require synthesis materials.

[tymora]

Just imagine how much more useful that sword would be if an extra 300+ damage on a hit actually got hate? Oh wait...a useful weapon? what the fuck is that?????

That would be unquestioningly, broken.
Its not good either if you are supposed to co-tank something with someone else if they can never ever pull hate off you.

~Be nice if Claustrum's modifier is INT or MND instead of CHR~

[ronin sparthos]

Its a relic weapon, a weapon thats supposedly supposed to have *no* equal. Why shouldnt it be 'broken'? No one complains the g.horn being arguably 'broken'.... the rest of the weapons should all equally have their own quirks that makes the weapon undoubtedly a monster on the battlefield - not a +1 of something else.

Few relics live up to the name.... they deserve to be broken in a sense where you blow the competition outta the fucking water one way or another. (Again, the ones that arent already the top of the crop.)

[neochaos]

Just imagine how much more useful that sword would be if an extra 300+ damage on a hit actually got hate? Oh wait...a useful weapon? what the fuck is that?????

That would be unquestioningly, broken.
Its not good either if you are supposed to co-tank something with someone else if they can never ever pull hate off you.

~Be nice if Claustrum's modifier is INT or MND instead of CHR~

Well that's why PLDs should be upgrading Aegis first. DD PLD is snazzy and all, but uh, could really give 2 fucks less if a PLD rates high in a parse lol.

And if Cluastrum's modifier was INT or MND, that would simply bring me back to what I previously said: "a useful weapon? what the fuck is that????" Or imagine if Claustrum was like an HQ2 ele staff? 20% dmg increase? and maybe -4 perp cost? Or Mjollnir had like Cure potency+15%, idk i guess what im trying to get is:

What if relic weapons greatly enhanced aspects of the respective jobs? lol@making sense

[Lampoon]

People bitched and complained about difficulty of Dynamis Relic's upgrade, SE came up with an easier alternative for something new. Now people bitch about how it's unfair that Dynamis relic is still harder than newer ones (considering SE follows same route Salvage gear uses). Noone is forcing you to upgrade a relic. It's your own choice, and these are the conditions. either accept it or don't.

Seriously, people need to STFU and move on with the changes.

[Mytiwar]

The worst is not people bitching; it's the fact that people are bitching without even knowing what is gonna happen?

gg oracles

[ronin sparthos]

I think the issue lies with SEs track-record of creating new things that stimulate RMT activity or fail to live up to expectations.

[neochaos]

I'm not bitching about difficulty, i'm bitching about how worthless most relic weapons are. The new nyzul weapons, if made easier to obtain, are most likely gonna be worse than relic weapons. That, or it will totally make relic weapons obsolete (sans shield and horn i imagine).

[Lucavi]

If they make the nyuzul polearm any worse than Gugnir, Mezraq (+1) is going to shit all over it, and that's a kind scenario. The "be all, end all" weapon should be just that -- I have no problems with relic weapons from 4 years ago still being top shit if it takes you forever and a day to get it, through all kinds of killing, errands, and upgrading. What's not cool, however, is a simple item that's dropped off of a mob (a HNM no doubt, but still comparably easier with your average botting HNMLS) being top shit for 4+ years now.

Yes, that means Ridill and Adaberk shouldn't still be the essential kings of gear in the game, and yes, that means that ranger's should actually have something that outperforms an osode; kyudogi is pretty good, but it doesn't blow osode away, and its much more difficult to obtain. Hell, Ebow still rules the school, and how long has that been out for?

Its been 4+ years now -- SE acts like the only reason to change out of old gear is because the new gear has a new look to it. Heck, I can't even say that, because most new gear is just a fucking reskin of old gear (hi2u Kyudogi, Ares, ect.)

At least WoW has some different looking models for their weapons and armor -- FFXI has no variety save for the patterns on each piece. No shine, no luster, no fire or ice or swirls or energy or anything. Look at Homam corazza vs. Conte corazza vs. that other one (the black one). Minor graphical and color differences, but seriously, its the same damned thing.

[ronin sparthos]

Im gonna say the appeal for the new Nyzul relics will be the new Weaponskills each touts based on what was seen back in the 2nd WotG trailer video... i doubt the models will be any more than a neat reskin of something else (sometimes reskins can look nice, other times look so shitty....) with decent stats and a decent WS.

[neochaos]

I forgot if it was the sword or the dagger that hard the WS with a flower in the animation, but I'm not gonna feel very straight WSing a mob with a flower-looking animation :/

[ronin sparthos]

It was the sword weaponskill.

That red rose weaponskill is so the RDM WS.

[neochaos]

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