Promy ENM 50 solo?

[Ramuhnub]

How hard is it to get to the enm? Been awhile since I did CoP O_o;

[Celenios]

How hard is it to get to the enm? Been awhile since I did CoP O_o;

It's just bit of a run to the ENM. You can warp straight to the last floor of Promyvion - Vahzl, so you don't have to fight a thing.

[Indalecia]

Vhazl, so basically just walk in and take the elevator straight up.

[ubermonkey]

Would this be doable on drk in a similar manner to the above strats, or would the total lack of a decent scythe/GS WS before 60 cap make it a non starter?

[Indalecia]

Use sturmwind

[chapstick]

Hmm m.kris zerg at lvl 50?

[Indalecia]

Plausible

Maybe wing up, sturmwind the orb, switch gear and go after middle.

[chapstick]

Thats what i was thinking, with /DRG for wyvern earring and jumps w/ g.axe? Iunno.

edit: and haste belt

[ubermonkey]

Hmm m.kris zerg at lvl 50?

In my infinite wisdom I thought m.kris was 52. I was wrong.

I don't have one anyway though.

[Matthias Garuda]

Galka Mnk soloing it.

http://www.stage6.com/user/friedricebob ... Ramathorne

[Ferien]

Tried it on SAM this evening...Managed to forget things like Carbonara, Berserk, using my Potions, timing Meditate properly, you know, the little things. Important note though: use Enpi. Jinpu seemed to be only doing half damage (possibly due to the elemental nature of the WS?).

[fantasticdan]

Tried it on SAM this evening...Managed to forget things like Carbonara, Berserk, using my Potions, timing Meditate properly, you know, the little things. Important note though: use Enpi. Jinpu seemed to be only doing half damage (possibly due to the elemental nature of the WS?).

TBH I'm not sure how tachi jinpu works, but the boss (red) MR will only be vulnerable to the types of damage corresponding to the smaller MRs. So say you kill the aqua MR, which makes it vulnerable to melee, the boss MR should still take 0 damage from normal elemental WS. Is jinpu is 1 melee hit 1 wind hit? That would explain doing 1/2 damage, and I can't think of any other elemental multihit ws...

[Thorny]

~0/30 over 4 months(MNK + RDM dualboxed on my characters, and I used a friend's SAM occasionally)
I agree that Jinpu is most likely 1 melee 1 wind based.. is it possible Memory Receptacles have random elemental weaknesses like other empty(though they obviously don't have a visible core) and full resist certain elements? The very first time I did it on SAM, jinpu did over 75% of the side MR's HP and am fairly sure it was a normal tp return. Since then, it never takes more than 30-40% and if it was purely physical a double crit cannot add that much damage with what my pdif is at. Just a random speculation.. regardless, I typically use Jinpu on the side mob and change to Enpi for main because Jinpu seems to always suck on main.

[Vhess]

I tried this for the first time today, after reading this thread and fantasticdan's walkthrough. I went on BLU/war, since I thought defender would be of more use than one utsu cast. As it turned out, it didn't much matter, since i forgot to use Defender until the end anyway.

Other than that lapse, however, I thought I was doing it pretty much correctly with a couple minor errors. However, I got my butt handed to me. Here's how it went:

After going in, I applied buffs. Metallic Body, Refueling, reraise, cocoon. I used a persikos au lait drink and a yag drink and a tavnazian taco as well as a high breath mantle for extra hp.

Upon approaching the red one, it spawned the other three, which were in a row to my left. Blue was at the far left, then green, then aqua. I went over to the aqua and hit it with Head Butt (forgot to use Wild Oats first). At this point I was hit with the first Empty Seed and it took off stoneskin and knocked me back. I got back to the aqua globe and hit it with Uppercut, Jet Stream and Mandibular Bite. During this I was hit again with ES. These three spells brought the aqua globe down to around 50%.

This is where I started having real problems. At this point, all four of the globes used Empty Seed. However, they didn't go all at once, but spaced it out about 5 seconds apart. This meant I was getting knocked back every five seconds, often in different directions. Partway through this barrage, I also got drawn in. The result was me taking a good deal of damage while being completely unable to cast spells on the aqua globe because I was being bounced around the room, out of range. I finally got back to the globe after taking about 350 damage, and cast Head Butt, Jet Stream, Mandibular Bite and Uppercut again, taking the mob down to about 10%. Then, another bunch of Empty Seeds started bouncing me around the room.

Finally I was able to re-approach the aqua globe and finish it off. At this point, I was at around 350/950 hp. The middle globe immediately spawned a helper. I targeted it and use Terroanima. While I was doing this, it got in one hit, which was a crit for 109.

Therefore, by the time I could engage the center globe at all, I was already down to 240/950 on hp and about 180/370 on mp. I got empty seeded across the room almost immediately, and cast Wild Carrot, then came back to the center globe. I use CA and Azure Lore (probably should have split these up) and hit it with Mandibular Bite and Jet Stream. This took off maybe 15-20% of the red one's hp. At this point, the Terroanima wore off and the helper mob came back and started hitting me. Since I was at 160/950 hp, I decided I would need to die, so rather than using another anima I began running towards the stairs so I could die there and save my anima for a second try. On my way to the stairs, though, I was hit by Empty Seed from multiple sources, with the result that instead of being blown forward onto the stairs, I was knocked sideways and died in the corner between two stairways. While this looked safe, as soon as a RR, one of the receptacles used ES again and killed me, forcing me to hp since I couldn't get RR back up in time.

So, what can I do differently next time to win? There were a few mistakes I made this time:

1) Didn't use Defender at the start
2) Should have been using Wild Oats instead of or in addition to Uppercut
3) Didn't use the Hysteroanima to prevent use of tp moves

The third one was probably my biggest mistake. If I had used this at the start, I might have had enough time to finish off the aqua ball without taking so much damage. If I had been at 600 hp instead of 250 hp when I started on the center ball, it might have made a big difference.

Other than that, though, I'm not sure what else I could have done that would have made a big difference. All four balls using ES and bouncing me around the room was what really did me in, and I don't know how to avoid that.

If anyone has any suggestions, I would appreciate the help.

[Judai]

It's alot harder then ppl make it seem, lol. I have tried 3x on MNK and wiped at 25% or lower on the Red MR each time.. Oddly enough, the first time I killed the wrong Mini-MR(blue), ended up killing a second one(aqua) and still got the Red down to 25%, lol.. Second time I spammed too many items before hitting 100 and got that item pause on abilities, never got 100 off and ended up dying at like 20%. Third time I did pretty much perfect but at 10%, just as I got 100tp to win, all the MRs used ES and killed me.. think I'm gonna start beating stuff up some and then running off and dying in a corner so I can finish it after.

I guess me being Taru and only being able to get 1200HP hurts me too, as the Galka had 1600 or some shit and won with about 400hp left iirc.

btw, I tried MNK/WAR 2x and MNK/DNc once, /dnc is gimp for this, only get 0-1 drains on the Red MR and 3-4 on the Aqua one, thought it might keep me alive longer but it really didn't. (100 en-drain sounded better then it turned out to be)

[fantasticdan]

If anyone has any suggestions, I would appreciate the help.

I would suggest not using uppercut, the damage is pretty crappy without SA. I primarily use mandibular bite, jet stream, and bludgeon. Other thing is, use headbutt whenever the recast is up, like I said, the MR you're targetting can't ES while stunned. Sounds like you mostly just had bad luck dying in an unsafe spot.

I'm not sure how much defender will help honestly, like I've said I've never tried it, just an idea.

Here is the gear I use:

weapon/sub: Combat caster's scimitar +2 x2
ammo: elvaan RSE sachet
head: voyager sallet
neck: spike necklace
ear1: insomnia
ear2: antivenom -> heims
hands: enky
ring1: rajas
ring2: garrolous
back: nomads mantle (lol)
waist: life belt
legs: elvaan RSE
feet: bounding

That is with sole sushi, with defense food I would use PCC and a sniper. I use some extra mp gear at the start so after I buff up I can macro to the STR stuff and go in ASAP. Oh, and that's with full sword/blue magic/str merits, 4hp 4mp.

I think I've soloed it around 11 or 12 times on blu, lost 3 of those. One of which was due to targeting the blue MR instead of aqua by accident, like judai, lol. Other 2 due to dying in unsafe spots.

[Vhess]

btw, I tried MNK/WAR 2x and MNK/DNc once, /dnc is gimp for this,

Maybe try /blu for cocoon?

I think I'm just going to duo this with Madd, he's been dying to do this one anyway. If he comes RNG I can have him gank the aqua ball in like 5 seconds and then I can start on the red one at full health and mp.

edit: thanks for the tips, fantasticdan. It looks like you have better cap gear than I do. The Uppcut thing was actually a mistake; I had it equipped just for stat boosts and didn't realize I had an Uppercut macro, which I then accidentally hit (no idea why I had a macro for this). I was trying to head butt whenever possible, I just ended up out of range most of the time.

I appreciate the help, though. I'll see if I can get it next week.

[Suiram]

If you HFed the Red one but not the Aqua one, the reason you were getting decent drains on Aqua and not on Red might be due to the fact that Drain Samba effect seems to be inversely proportional to attack speed, and not due to the whole melee/ranged/magic thing this BC has going on.

[Judai]

If you HFed the Red one but not the Aqua one, the reason you were getting decent drains on Aqua and not on Red might be due to the fact that Drain Samba effect seems to be inversely proportional to attack speed, and not due to the whole melee/ranged/magic thing this BC has going on.

You know, I completely forgot about that. I always did think that Drain Samba had to do with delay/attack speed also. Still, /DNC isn't worth it for the BC, just fyi, lol. My RF dropped off like 200dmg without zerk and I needed an extra attack round to finish the first one, which ended up getting me ES'd more.

Not sure /blu would help me, really I think if I had been /WAR for the time I was /DNC I would have won since I was flawless in my execution, just my dmg drop off was too much and the drain didn't help as much as I wanted.

Also Vhess, not sure RNG+Melee is good idea, I think you need to kill Green MR to make Red one vulnerable to RNG attacks. Don't quote me on that but iirc it's Magic, Physical and Ranged MRs. So you would have to kill two if you did RNG+BLU. Unless you just want him to kill the Aqua and you solo the Red or something. \o/ Which is prolly what you meant anyways, I'll go over there and stfu! lol.

[Vhess]

Unless you just want him to kill the Aqua and you solo the Red or something. \o/ Which is prolly what you meant anyways

Yeah, this is what I meant. Having him along would also give me an extra set of animas, which would buy me more time to solo it.

As an emergency backup, I think I would have him range the Green one down to like 10% and just leave it there so that if we got close to finishing the red one, he could kill the green one and then bast the red one with a ws before the spawned mob got in our grill. Honestly, though, I don't think that would be necessary. If I can start on red at full, without having to worry about the spawn, I think I can wreck it pretty good.