Promy ENM 50 solo?

[Havok]

I tried this today as blu/war also...and I also forgot to use defender lol

I managed to kill the aqua MR pretty easily, used anima on the pop, but i was pretty low hp by this time. Tried to engage the red MR, got bounced around like a fucking pinball, and died. Was able to RR actually, rested up, ran in and used the other anima on the popped mob to intimidate it (which didn't last very long at all btw..) Got the red MR down to about 40%, but I seriously wasn't able to do much with 3 empty seeds hitting me all spaced out at different times. Died again right after getting drawn in, so I couldn't get up again.

I think I can do it next time now that I have more practice. If I can't get it down within a couple more tries I'll just get someone to duo with /shrug. An extra set of animas would indeed be nice.

[Soarian]

I've done this twice now on MNK/WAR, once with a THF helping and the other time with the THF and a WHM.

We wiped the first time we tried but it was really only a trial run. We didn't bring any kind of meds or food and just went to see how it was. Turns out that we got the Red one down to about 30% even without healing and me not using Hundred Fists.

Next time I brought a wing, mithkabob, and a Pear Au Lait and we won easily. He was there basically just to keep the spawned NM off me, and he said it couldn't even touch him as he kited it around. We didn't get the ring but we are gonna make this a weekly event in hopes of getting a few, plus its a very easy 3k exp to boot.

[Thitaubian Seraph]

Are there any strategies for a whm or blm to solo this? (doubt whm a bit).
If so, where?

[Tajin]

WHM cant solo this.


BLM hmm maybe if your Manafont is awesome, but at low HP the main MR starts (well, all the remaing MR actually) spamming the Empty Seed, so you might get interrupted due to draw-in/knockback.

[mackerel]

Can't BLM nuke from outside Empty Seed range?

[EternityEnd]

You would get drawn in.

[fantasticdan]

Blm can probably solo this similar to RDM using DoT and RR method.

[Dakra]

Tried as WAR/NIN with greataxe last night, and got the main MR down to about 50% before wiping thanks to Empty Seed. Greataxe just doesn't swing fast enough to make MS really all that effective at zerging down the last MR, but without access to Rampage at 50 there's really no other alternative Had some targeting problems in the beginning after the Aqua MR died too, thanks to Empty Seed + Draw In. I'll try again soon, maybe with double axe and see how things go.

[Sekkite]

Duo'd it as MNK with a WHM. Got a little sketchy cause I took too long to tell the difference between the blue and the aqua balls and I forgot to berserk before raging fisting the aqua one. Was able to get it off in the end though. Probably would of wiped if the WHM wasn't there to soak up the first few hits on the Empty NM before reposing it(I used a psychoanima on it pre-emptively cause the WHM was being bounced around though).

Got junk for drops though.

[Cream Soda]

Ok here is the video of me doing mine. Its an old one so I'm going to add a bit of commentary and ways to improve what was done in the video.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=dnhAmSAmQqU

1. Not shown in video: Before buffing, use all your items (Food, high breath mantle, reraise if u want). You can see the icons at the top

2. (not sure about other jobs but as mnk): Buff BEFORE engaging. Berserk will last the entire battle. Using JAs during the fight only adds to delay.

3. 39-40 secs: While fighting blue MR, I'd recommend facing back towards a pillar so when u do get empty seeded you don't go too far (unelss drawn in afterward).

4. 42 secs into the video. Aqua MR is at 1% and I just got empty seeded/drawn in. This is the perfect time to use a potion or 2 and get full before Contemplator pops.

5. 46 secs: Have done this plenty of times and it always works better with auto-target off, controls trying to change to MR is just funky w/o it.

6. For Contemplator pop, I highly recommend this macro. /item "Psychoanima" <stnpc> this will allow you to have MR targeted (your target) and still be able to use the anima on the Contemplator. If its been a bit since you've been empty seeded, I'd wait a sec or 2 before using the anima. Getting knocked back while trying to use the item will give you a nice chunk of delay before you can attempt to use it again.

7. Have a back up anima (Terro). If you don't finish the job before the Psychoanima wears off, this can put you in a sticky situation. Also have a macro for it.


Protips: Keep all meds macro'd; best for quick use.

That vid was my 2nd attempt, but using some of the tips I've pointed out I've been able to win with much higher HP using much less potions. On 2 occasions, I even beat it w/o using any potions nor chakra. I'll make an updated video next time I attempt this (should be today)

[Ferien]

Tried it on SAM this evening...Managed to forget things like Carbonara, Berserk, using my Potions, timing Meditate properly, you know, the little things. Important note though: use Enpi. Jinpu seemed to be only doing half damage (possibly due to the elemental nature of the WS?).

TBH I'm not sure how tachi jinpu works, but the boss (red) MR will only be vulnerable to the types of damage corresponding to the smaller MRs. So say you kill the aqua MR, which makes it vulnerable to melee, the boss MR should still take 0 damage from normal elemental WS. Is jinpu is 1 melee hit 1 wind hit? That would explain doing 1/2 damage, and I can't think of any other elemental multihit ws...

Forgot about this thread until I saw it mentioned in one of the others...Pretty sure Jinpu was determined to be 1 melee 1 wind, based on what it does to Puks. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if no one has said anything by the time I get home I'll go out and smack one to see.

[Trichocyst]

I also tried this on SAM recently and also forgot some key steps. Whoops. But it was a good learning experience.

[Gorstag]

I have a couple of questions about this ENM.

#1: Is the pop location of the Memory Receptacles random?

#2: How long is the psychoanima supposed to last?

I've tried this ENM two times, first time I failed because of bad luck/no experience.
Second time I tried it went easy untill I realized I didn't have my 2 hour since I did salvage earlier.

However, both the times, especially the first time, the length of the psychoanima seemed pretty short.
First time I counted 5, yes 5 intimidation before it was attacking again.
Second time it lasted longer, but I still wouldn't have gotten far into my 2hour if I had it. Went far better than first time, only mistake I did was that I forgot my 2hour
recast(duh) and I forgot to use berserk/focus/dodge before I engaged the blue Memory Receptacle.
So all I had time for after I killed the blue Receptacle was to use psychoanima, run to red receptacle, use 3 buffs, WS and realize my 2hour
wasn't ready, before I was getting attacked by the Contemplator again.


I've watched the videos posted of other people soloing this ENM and as far as I've seen, the Contemplator seems to be intimidated for the whole duration from pop to main Receptacle is down.

[fantasticdan]

The duration of the intimidation anima seems really random. Also, on a couple of runs where I've wiped once after using the animas, and gotten back up, waited for weakness to wear, buffed up, etc, the contemplator would be intimidated 100% of the time as soon as I re-engage, which really doesn't make any sense, since I'd alway seen the anima wear off before I died. Weird bug.

[Talint]

Just tried soloing it today as WAR/NIN for the first time.

Got a really bad break at the start when I went to weaponskill the aqua memory receptacle and got drawn-in. Lost all my TP from the icarus wing, so I had to fight the aqua memory receptacle normally.

Got the main down to 50 percent before the anima wore and died.

[Gorstag]

Wow, this ENM really hates me. Did my third try today and got my ass kicked all over the floor again.

Thought I had it all figured out for today. All was fine till I was done with blue receptacle and I auto-targeted the main receptacle (I think). Because of empty seed I didn't get the anima off, so I took 3 hits from the contemplator before it worked. And when I got back to the red receptacle, I was for some reason attacking the contemplator. I don't really know what happened, but something must've fucked up with the targetting after I used the anima. So I had to disengage and engage the red receptacle which probably lost me some time, but arghh..
So after popping chakra, hundred first and chugging a pair of potions, the contemplator is already attacking me again and I'm gulping down all the potions I have and my single elixir, but its already a lost battle since hundred first has already worn off /sigh.

The thing that still bothers me is the duration of the anima. That thing must've been changed because it seriously doesn't last
any longer than idunno, maybe 20 sec. Originally thought 30, but then I was like wtf and I went and took the time. The contemplator was intimidated for 6 attack rounds at least, thats all I know for now. Probably gonna see if I can remember to time it next time I try (if I can bother after all these failures).

/rant
anyway..

Is there any point to go for an evasion build? I don't have any problems with acc at least, and my dmg is good enough I think. First receptacle goes easily down after a few hits and a ws. Currently I'm going for max hp and with food and mantle I have 1355 hp as hume mnk. Was thinking of maybe changing out legs, feet and maybe head for evasion stuff, since if you evade a couple of empty seeds, that could possibly save me or something and there's not really any good hp+ equipment in those slots.

[LinktheDeme]

Uh, does Hystero anima do anything? The main one still used wses but I was really paying attention if the small ones stopped using em.

[Cream Soda]

I auto-targeted the main receptacle (I think). Because of empty seed I didn't get the anima off, so I took 3 hits from the contemplator before it worked. And when I got back to the red receptacle, I was for some reason attacking the contemplator. I don't really know what happened, but something must've fucked up with the targetting after I used the anima..

I told ya'll >.> turn auto target off. That shit will fuck you over.

[Cream Soda]

Ok here is the video of me doing mine. Its an old one so I'm going to add a bit of commentary and ways to improve what was done in the video.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=dnhAmSAmQqU

1. Not shown in video: Before buffing, use all your items (Food, high breath mantle, reraise if u want). You can see the icons at the top

2. (not sure about other jobs but as mnk): Buff BEFORE engaging. Berserk will last the entire battle. Using JAs during the fight only adds to delay.

3. 39-40 secs: While fighting blue MR, I'd recommend facing back towards a pillar so when u do get empty seeded you don't go too far (unelss drawn in afterward).

4. 42 secs into the video. Aqua MR is at 1% and I just got empty seeded/drawn in. This is the perfect time to use a potion or 2 and get full before Contemplator pops.

5. 46 secs: Have done this plenty of times and it always works better with auto-target off, controls trying to change to MR is just funky w/o it.

6. For Contemplator pop, I highly recommend this macro. /item "Psychoanima" <stnpc> this will allow you to have MR targeted (your target) and still be able to use the anima on the Contemplator. If its been a bit since you've been empty seeded, I'd wait a sec or 2 before using the anima. Getting knocked back while trying to use the item will give you a nice chunk of delay before you can attempt to use it again.

7. Have a back up anima (Terro). If you don't finish the job before the Psychoanima wears off, this can put you in a sticky situation. Also have a macro for it.


Protips: Keep all meds macro'd; best for quick use.

That vid was my 2nd attempt, but using some of the tips I've pointed out I've been able to win with much higher HP using much less potions. On 2 occasions, I even beat it w/o using any potions nor chakra. I'll make an updated video next time I attempt this (should be today)

[Ferien]

I almost got screwed on that tonight as well. Killed aqua, had red targeted but was meleeing Contemplator. I've been duoing it with a WHM though, so it's much easier to deal with, especially since Repose will land for its full duration.