Strategy on Animated Staff

[Kainstryder]

I wonder if in general a player dying just interests it or something. I remember accidentally aggroing Aegis once and kited him around waiting for him to warp and I eventually died to him and he said something to the effect of "Hmm, what strategy is this?" and became interested. Who knows, just go with what works.

[Shadowrunner]

I wonder if in general a player dying just interests it or something. I remember accidentally aggroing Aegis once and kited him around waiting for him to warp and I eventually died to him and he said something to the effect of "Hmm, what strategy is this?" and became interested. Who knows, just go with what works.

I accidentally agro'd the Horn once, it seemed like it took a long time to warp out. Then again, I died so fast I don't really know or remember if I got any increase in interest. I know that it talked for quite a while though lol.

[Rocl]

so Sendoh, would you kill Animated Staff for me?

if you pay for that Xarc.

Good thing I have that option. Attestation could be costly though

[Wizerd]

I wonder if in general a player dying just interests it or something. I remember accidentally aggroing Aegis once and kited him around waiting for him to warp and I eventually died to him and he said something to the effect of "Hmm, what strategy is this?" and became interested. Who knows, just go with what works.

This made me laugh more than it should have...

[pohibaba]

You're never done upgrading a job until you have HQ everything, every piece possible that'll enhance a spell, whatever. Upgrading a relic, let alone a Claustrum, while ignoring your other gear first is not only ridiculously stupid, but a massive waste of time that could've been spent better equipping yourself and benefiting your LS. Claustrum will do NOTHING for your BLM that morrigan, genie weskit, etc will do. Don't be stupid. By all means, if your BLM is actually finished, why not just level another job and get a relic? Why Claustrum? Why? Seriously, why?

So, your argument is that a DRK shouldn't upgrade Apocolypse until he has full armada? That a monk shouldn't upgrade Spharai until he has full Usukane and Black Belt? That a PLD shouldn't upgrade Aegis until he has full Valor and a D-ring? Your argument is ridiculous. Some people just don't have access to certain gear, and you think that should keep them from getting other gear that they might want? Bashing this guy because he may not have full Morrigans and full Zenith with a Novio is just fucking stupid.

[Kainstryder]

You're never done upgrading a job until you have HQ everything, every piece possible that'll enhance a spell, whatever. Upgrading a relic, let alone a Claustrum, while ignoring your other gear first is not only ridiculously stupid, but a massive waste of time that could've been spent better equipping yourself and benefiting your LS. Claustrum will do NOTHING for your BLM that morrigan, genie weskit, etc will do. Don't be stupid. By all means, if your BLM is actually finished, why not just level another job and get a relic? Why Claustrum? Why? Seriously, why?

So, your argument is that a DRK shouldn't upgrade Apocolypse until he has full armada? That a monk shouldn't upgrade Spharai until he has full Usukane and Black Belt? That a PLD shouldn't upgrade Aegis until he has full Valor and a D-ring? Your argument is ridiculous. Some people just don't have access to certain gear, and you think that should keep them from getting other gear that they might want? Bashing this guy because he may not have full Morrigans and full Zenith with a Novio is just fucking stupid.

Was bashing him on the fact that they were done with BLM and others were arguing they must have gear needing to be upgraded rather than doing a Claustrum. And for the sake of the argument, if you're upgrading a Claustrum, you'd better fucking have a Novio or dumping 100+ mil into that staff instead of just buying a Novio or buying abjurations, that is fucking stupid and my point.

And yes and no to your question. Do you seriously want to see a MNK with Spharai but a brown belt, or a DRK with thick gear? I'm not saying get full HQ everything before you glance at relic, but if your gear is lacking and you're upgrading a relic, please focus on your other slots before obtaining it.

Edit: I'd better make this clear before someone thinks I'm stating otherwise: No, I'm not suggesting have +1 everything and to make sure you have 0 room for improvement before doing relic, but, you should at least look like you know what you're doing or you've made an effort and aren't sporting Ruby Rings and an NQ amemet. If you can fund a relic and everything, obviously you can make some gear upgrades as well. Also, if this were any other relic, I wouldn't be harsh, but again, if you're doing Claustrum and your BLM is basically finished, you'd better have Novio, etc or this is a massive waste.

[Day]

I think it's pretty dumb that you even care so much. Let the dude upgrade his relic if wants and he has friends willing to help, I'm pretty sure it's not hurting you in any way, shape, or form. Who are you to say whats stupid and whats not. Just because an item may not have the best stats doesn't mean its meaningless to the person obtaining it.

It's obvious this guy loves his BLM. What the hell is wrong with you guys?

[Kainstryder]

I'm not looking to stop the guy from doing Claustrum, just making sure they're not going to do something they'd regret later. I agree with what you said and I'm more so just hoping they're not sporting a Rainbow Cape and Cunning Earring or something.

[Raineer]

I think it's pretty dumb that you even care so much. Let the dude upgrade his relic if wants and he has friends willing to help, I'm pretty sure it's not hurting you in any way, shape, or form. Who are you to say whats stupid and whats not. Just because an item may not have the best stats doesn't mean its meaningless to the person obtaining it.

It's obvious this guy loves his BLM. What the hell is wrong with you guys?

I agree with this.

Know what? I want Excalibur (or Mandau) for my RDM, because it would make soloing/farming very fun for me. I know it's a gay-carebear-^^/////// answer but it would be my perrogative. Excal/Mandau would do absolutely zero for my contribution to HNM/Dynamis/Endgame, but I still want it.

All I need to worry about is paying for my own currency, and trying to sponsor/convince people to kill the NM's for me.

Like 80% of the bazaars I've /checked in the last week have currency in them, oh noes what a waste if SOME of it goes to a non-Aegis.

[Seditedi]

edit: There is nothing left for me to upgrade on BLM means just that. It means you are done with gear for BLM lol It's not extrapolating any hidden meaning from it or putting words in your mouth, you said it.

As for why, let's just say I am a career BLM and there is nothing much left for me as a BLM to upgrade.

you're awesome if not for the part of being a dimwitted dumbass that can't read (and i'm in no way supporting the upgrade of a Claustrum).

paraphrasing people to make them say something they didn't piss me the hell off.

I'm just seriously asking what his BLM looks like. It better be close to 5/5 morrigan's if it is not before he thinks he is basically almost done with BLM upgrades.

[Lhayla]

I wonder if in general a player dying just interests it or something. I remember accidentally aggroing Aegis once and kited him around waiting for him to warp and I eventually died to him and he said something to the effect of "Hmm, what strategy is this?" and became interested. Who knows, just go with what works.

Kiting in general keeps the weapon interested. You keep it walking and it keeps spamming "Hmm, what strategy is this?" or something like that. Tested it on bow and gun. However, kinda sucks to think of doing this fight on kite mode. If Mijin wouldn't work, then it would be worth a shot, however, Mijin does work, and that means, even with less then 30 people, even with no 2hours or the best equipped players, you can do it.

[layoneil]

I'm just seriously asking what his BLM looks like. It better be close to 5/5 morrigan's if it is not before he thinks he is basically almost done with BLM upgrades.

Morrigans and Claustrum are not mutually exclusive. the ability to make gil has no bearing on the ability to join a functional Salvage group.

[Isiolia]

I'm just seriously asking what his BLM looks like. It better be close to 5/5 morrigan's if it is not before he thinks he is basically almost done with BLM upgrades.

Tymora leads one of the more established Salvage groups on our server. One of the first to have a Morrigan's body. So it'd at least be in progress far as that goes.

[Naver]

lol at all the BLMs hating and assuming only to make asses of themselves. Good luck Tymora on your animated weapon hunting.

[Seditedi]

It's more than just BLMs hating.
Level a new job and at least get a worthwhile relic like Mjollnir (lol).

[Spekkio]

It's more than just BLMs hating.
Level a new job and at least get a worthwhile relic like Mjollnir (lol).

meh. i've helped work on a total of 5 relics since starting this game and considering the list, they're pretty much on par with this.
1.) grad's sphari (meh weapon or so i'm told)
2.) diddlyd's mijolner (he never finished it b/c he was about 0/50 on attestation or something obscene like that. had the currency to just about finish to 5 though)
3.) jiuwanie's excalibur (he's a rdm, not a pld. he eventually lvled pld, but that's hardly the point. still, dinging into an excalibur must be pretty funny...)
4.) neriya's horn (finally something sensible)
5.) my own horn (again, not a 3rd rate weapon like the first 3.)

as far as i'm concerned, if he wants to bankroll something that useless, that's his choice. i'm sure people have spent good money on worse things, and if people want to help him get it, knowing full well how crappy it is, more power to them. that said, lolclaustrum.

[Wizerd]

It's more than just BLMs hating.
Level a new job and at least get a worthwhile relic like Mjollnir (lol).

meh. i've helped work on a total of 5 relics since starting this game and considering the list, they're pretty much on par with this.
1.) grad's sphari (meh weapon or so i'm told)
2.) diddlyd's mijolner (he never finished it b/c he was about 0/50 on attestation or something obscene like that. had the currency to just about finish to 5 though)
3.) jiuwanie's excalibur (he's a rdm, not a pld. he eventually lvled pld, but that's hardly the point. still, dinging into an excalibur must be pretty funny...)
4.) neriya's horn (finally something sensible)
5.) my own horn (again, not a 3rd rate weapon like the first 3.)

as far as i'm concerned, if he wants to bankroll something that useless, that's his choice. i'm sure people have spent good money on worse things, and if people want to help him get it, knowing full well how crappy it is, more power to them. that said, lolclaustrum.

Exactly.

My LS has done Excalibur -> Spharai -> Kikoku so far, which are all kinda meh compared to the top ones, and the Spharai MNK sucks in terms of the rest of his gear/playskill (not in LS anymore). We've also helped a couple people with fragments for Mandau (yay a good weapon), and we're just finishing off an Amanomurakumo (yay another good one).

When that's finished, my wife's Gjallarhorn is next and probably my Mandau (the probably is in terms of which relic, not whether I'll upgrade one). So the first few were kind of meh, and the last few are great. Everyone was happy to help just the same.

[Hayguyz]

and the Spharai MNK sucks in terms of the rest of his gear/playskill (not in LS anymore).

Heavyrock had a pretty well equipped monk. Just the first few months after finishing his Spharai he was pretty gimped.

To the OP, good luck with Animated Staff. Having it open with Breakga > Sleepga is always fun.

[Wizerd]

and the Spharai MNK sucks in terms of the rest of his gear/playskill (not in LS anymore).

Heavyrock had a pretty well equipped monk. Just the first few months after finishing his Spharai he was pretty gimped.

To the OP, good luck with Animated Staff. Having it open with Breakga > Sleepga is always fun.

Well, I don't see him much anymore. After those first few months after getting it, he kind of abandoned TSS and joined Apathy's runs instead (or he took a break/quit, I don't know), and he apparently still has a coin debt he hasn't paid. But that's drama for another time!

[Hayguyz]

He abandoned TSS runs because Senseless wouldn't let him sponsor after getting a loan from i think Hirosue? to finish his last stage. Don't particularly care either way, just thought i'd reply.