Strategy on Animated Staff

[wop]

Not getting into the drama here, I have to continue to disagree with LW saying Mijin is "proven", as I know one shell in particular on Pheonix that spent about 3 months attempting Gkatana and failed to kill it before it warped every time even when having a very large Mijin order (and very apparent that Mijin did jack shit but make you feel better).

The reason they won on this staff this time is a sizable damage (like 45 people in zone for staff? lol).

Animated weapons = massive damage fast.

Fuck retarded Mijin theories.

Since we are talking of strat here (lolaurik unprovoked attack due to jealousy), the reason they managed to win staff is because there was 45 people IN ZONE LOL. If they can lose with 45 ppl using icarus wings and 2 hours, they might as well quit game.
Ive killed multiple Animated weapons before, and there are only 2 outcome:-

1) You kill it fast enough before it warps or toss a baggilion ppl on it
2) OMG you suck so bad because you dont have enough fire power

LolMijin

[Lordwafik]

(lolaurik unprovoked attack due to jealousy)

You know you're losing when you play the jealousy card.


PS : Mijin works for everyone but you it seems Neo

[wop]

PS : Mijin works for everyone but you it seems Neo

I can kill Animated weapons without lolMijins with less than half the number, thank you very much for your advice.

lol@ birds of the feather flock together.

[Lordwafik]

PS : Mijin works for everyone but you it seems Neo

I can kill Animated weapons without lolMijins with less than half the number, thank you very much for your advice.

What? We killed animated weapons with like the 22 that came to Xarca, and we used timed mijin anytime it attempted to warp. Worked just fine! Funnily enough on a different occasion, the one time we didn't have a mijin go off (our nin lagged out) , the weapon warped too ( @ 30% que que). Back then we didnt even have the gear and we do now, so we killed much slower and mijins helped prolong the battles. No KC or DRKs at all really, pretty much TP burn with MNKs Sams(prepatch) NINs.

lol@ birds of the feather flock together.

Least I got birds to flock with 8)

[tymora]

I remember Zeto now
I do cast ga3 in Dynamis occasionally when there are 2 mobs with the expectation of drawing hate. Except that Zeto did faithfully what he was told and got hate on all those sleeping mobs.

The main alliance would be crushing 1 of those mobs I ga so it would ignore me. The other one usually comes straight for me where I can sleep it.

Needless to say, I think those woken mobs went after him instead of me. But I don't remember him dying often if at all from my ga3 though I would imagine it would be a shock. No wiped LS from my ga3 to date either. I get KO-ed a few times but that is pretty much in good fun.

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Mijin did interrupt the staff twice on warp for us.

[aurik]

thank you very much for your advice

I got more advice if you want!

[Rakshaka]

Yo, Rak here. I'm the HC leader that got booted from wopaco. Just for reference, I was in wopaco when it was founded.

Here's all the info I've gathered so far:
Maximtrueblade (another HC leader) says he told wopa that HC was doing xarcabard on the 24th. Maxim said he asked wopa if HC could have the zone. Maxim said wopa said no.

Wopa said Maxim never talked to him about possibly having the zone.

Wopa said on ls that he was planning on "cockblocking" Tymora by going into xarc before HC.

Wopa kicked another person from the shell because I was on their character. This person had previously asked me to move his character to xarc, qufim, or bubu if HC was doing any of those zones. (Sorry again btw, should have just logged off of your char)

Anyone, let me know if I'm missing any other parts of this.
Here's the pic of "superwopa" at the last Timmy:
idk what you want to do with this; maybe make it into an avatar or something. I'm sure someone will find something useful and fun to do with it.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y24...flyingwopa.png

[tymora]

Ive killed multiple Animated weapons before, and there are only 2 outcome:-

1) You kill it fast enough before it warps or toss a baggilion ppl on it
2) OMG you suck so bad because you dont have enough fire power

Try staff and his lovely break-ga.

Thankfully it didn't use it this time V(^v^)V.

-----------And to sum up the Thread/Drama to keep true to the opening post---------------
This is taken from the post (and changed slightly) I made on HC's forums on Claustrum Strategy. For those lolClaustrum upgraders to come~

Melee Instructions:
1. PLDs use Spirits Within only, space out the Spirits like a Stun sequence (20 sec interval).
a. No one is to use Flat Blade or other stun WS...etc since they do nothing on Staff at least.
2. 3 Ninjas have Mijin sequence to interrupt Warp - Have a good chance of interrupting.
3. 3 DD Melee with high damage WS store TP to interrupt Warp - Have a good chance of interrupting with a high damage WS.
a. 2 DD melee and 1 Ninja will go at each Warp attempt.
b. 1 DD melee will store TP for Warp only. The other 2 DD melee alternate between storing and using.
4. The others will proceed with regular TP spam on Staff - Strongest WS only.

(Feel free to use LS Chat for the sequences)

Mage Instructions:
RDMs make a CS sequence for T3 (not T2, T1) spells.
BLMs continue as usual, nuke like crazy. No stuns, no rebuffs, just attack when we start. Manafont when you can.
WHMs continue to stay out of range to avoid Breakga.
BRDs SV before entry, if nothing better to do, use Wing and pop Spirits Within too.

Others:
1 THF use ranged to pull at start RIGHT AFTER BLMs start time-nuke (single target AM2), after everyone pulls out weapons and locked on to staff.
Poison Potions for everyone and I. Wing for melee and DD food.
EVERYONE needs to filter chat such that only LS Chat, party chat and what the Animated Staff says and your damage shows. Especially for the 3 NIN and 3 DD melee who needs to interrupt warp.

[Neosutra]

Wafik:

The only evidence we have is random interupts that may or may not have been caused by Mijin, or the 20 or so melees WSing it. Regardless of individual belief, the addition of so many other factors removes Mijin theory very far from the realm of "proven" and very close into the range of conjecture. The added fact that I know several experiences of Mijin going off during/before warp sequence and having no effect does not help the case.

Until someone provides a SS of a Mijin (and only Mijin) interupting, it is an unproven technique that has built up momentum via superstition.

Continue to use it if you want, but trading a solid Melee DD for a random Mijin will only undermine your efforts. I am not getting into the rest of the drama here, but cannot agree with your attempt to classify such a loose theory as "proven".

[Skeetaru]

Man, how did i miss this gem of a thread for so long? Im just getting caught up in all the fun!

[Suiram]

Anyone, let me know if I'm missing any other parts of this.

You're missing the part where wopa didn't even have Xarc access until he leeched it off HC a year and a half ago. And by "leech" I of course mean how he joined the LS, ironically as a guest of Tymora's and over the express objections of a quite a few of us, attending every win he could and then not a month after he'd obtained it, declared that our times were not suitable for his time zone and he'd be running his own (Xarcabard, of course) runs once a week, which is where he got all that pretty AF2 he loves to take out for the screenshots here as other people have noticed.

Now, of course, this is the part where he chimes in and claims that it was approved by the leadership and he was charged full points, blah blah blah. But I'll save him that by pointing out that of course, points don't matter when they don't affect your ability to lot anything you want, which they didn't so long as he could go get them on his own once a week.... until the day a came a few months ago that he was disallowed from lotting a shield attestation because after two years he still had negative points--at which point he cried like a child and left the LS.

Now, of course, this is the part where he chimes in and says I must be posting this because I'm some kind of jealous "hater", so I guess I should just cop to that, in the interest of avoiding drama. Although I'm still not entirely clear on what exactly it is we're all supposed to be jealous of...

[Wizerd]

Although I'm still not entirely clear on what exactly it is we're all supposed to be jealous of...

Well, I for one am jealous of the Claustrum~ I think it's awesome that Tymora upgraded a unique piece. :D


As for Mijin Gakure and Animated Weapon warps... If you've ever tried kiting an Animated weapon or making it warp with just a few people, you'd know that more damage faster makes it warp faster. If you fight it with 5-6 melees hitting it, and someone else kiting the satellites, you'll have a decently long battle, up to 2 minutes maybe. The moment you add another 10 melees to the fight and some magic, it'll warp within 20 seconds of being engaged. Having a couple "solid DDs" come on NIN for Mijin only helps the situation, because it'll lengthen the time you have to kill it, if only by a few seconds, as well as having the extra time for Mijins.

This has let our LS kill Animated with 26-32 people numerous times after Dynamis Lord without using 2HR abilities, just raw melee damage hitting it like they do. Angon and Feint really are wonderful. Sure, you can kill them with 18-24 people, with 2hrs, but why waste 2hrs on something like that and have it be the only big thing you can do in that run?

Speaking of Animated weapons, I gotta buy a bunch of poison potions for the Horn tomorrow~.

PS: What do you use to tank if you don't have NINs at the run? PLDs don't do damage and aren't efficient. <_<

[wop]

Can you talk about something new rather than repeating the same old story every post you stalk me Suiram? Apparently not, as he never fails to bring his little story over in every threads.

Finally some pandy drama,albeit weak, but <3 Drama.
Oh well.

[Lordwafik]

Great insight to the story Suiram! Rate up~!

[aurik]

stalk

Intrigued, I looked for other posts by Suiram about Wopadobop. I couldn't find much. But I did find this gem!

http://galkastyle.blogspot.com/2007/08/ ... omedy.html

[Suiram]

hahahaha The two blms there were me and niv actually lol Maybe I should start stalking him with this instead?

[Lordwafik]

Kind of silly to ban friends from doing stuff with eachother , lol, talk about threatened

[wop]

Keep hearing their cronies side of the story.
Oh noozz BG bullies are teaming up against moi!!!! :rocl:

@ Aurik : FYI, Mazzic, Suiram, Niv, these 3 clowns together are the ones that SKIP dynamis to do ENM's instead because "I already have AF's from that zone". lolcronies. Not like I take them with any seriousness.

[Lordwafik]

Ahahahahahah he's victimized himself.

[Suiram]

@ Aurik : FYI, Mazzic, Suiram, Niv, these 3 clowns together are the ones that SKIP dynamis to do ENM's instead because "I already have AF's from that zone". lolcronies. Not like I take them with any seriousness.

I like how you tried to sneak in this cheap shot an hour after you posted like nobody would notice lol And the fact that you tried to quote "I already have AF's from that zone" as if any of us actually thought like that. Here's a news flash: Just because you may be in everything you do for your own personal gain, that doesn't mean everyone else thinks that way. Anyone in HC knows that I've never skipped anything for any reason having to do with what the drops in the zone are (except the run for your horn attestation which I skipped out of principle, and I think most people here at this point can understand why lol). I don't much care for Dynamis anymore, and I've long since paid off any debt I accrued for the 7 drops I've ever lotted in the three years I've been there. But I do enjoy a few zones still, and go to the ones I don't have AF from like Valkurm and Tav just as often (and lately, less often) than the ones I've not had anything to lot in years like Qufim. Mazzic and Nivlakian are in the same boat--shit Niv doesn't even like to do Dynamis at all, period.

I also think that anyone from HC would be rolling on the floor right now at you personally insinuating someone else going to zones only for their own AF, but I suppose if I start getting into why that'd just be stalking you, now wouldn't it? 8)

But anyway, if we're just cronies making up stories, why not tell us what really happened, if you didn't throw a fit because Tymora wouldn't kick us after inviting when KABOOM was short on people, and then making empty threats of bringing down KABOOM with your promises of non-participation that ultimately fell flat? I never got to hear the full story either.