FBI wants palm prints, eye scans to protect U.S.

[Norelco]

I foresee the number of crimes including the dismemberment of hands and eyes increasing dramatically.

[pohibaba]

So, I assume you guys are ok with a National ID card, too?

[Amastacia]

Thanks, but no thanks on putting me in an FBI database.

I'm a law-abiding American citizen and I like my right to privacy.

Biometric data on criminals I'm cool with. Biometric data on your average Joe, I'm not so cool with.

Boo fucking hoo if it makes the occasional person harder to track, they're paid the big bucks to be good at finding people who don't want to be found, no reason to steal the privacy of innocents to make their jobs easier.

[Alleya]

I never really had a problem with that, dunno why people freak out. >_> I wouldnt like the idea of having camera in my house, but biodata? That's doesnt really hurt my privacy.

It's like they said in the article. Mistakes happen, thousands of them.

I for one don't want to be shipped off to a secret CIA facility in europe and then on to Syria to be tortured because a computer glitch matched me with a terrorist, and then be denied reparations or even an apology when they eventually figure out the guy they've been waterboarding for 6 months is the wrong one.

[Osede]

If they use it the same way they have been, then /shrug.

If I have to get a retinal scan every time I want to get on a plane in 10 years, I'll be annoyed.

Don't they do this already? For "Express" passengers, you give a palm/fingerprint and let a machine scan your eyes, pop in your ticket and off you go. Saw this somewhere.

yes, since 2003. During 2003 it is the most terrible period because of a failure implementation where casing 20ppl to wait for 3-4hrs in a room to waiting the officers to enter their infomation into database one by one, which also took like 20mins per entry.... after they discover this just waste their time and scare of the travellers, so they just simplified the procedure. Which take the picture and finger print from everyone, instead of taking every details information. But for those who unlucky that get the INS special registration, they still need to get into the INS room to wait for a 2hrs long registration

and yes, I'm one the lucky person who get into INS registration QQ Been always had to buy a connection fly ticket that is at least 4hrs later, instead of 2hrs. But there is an excited and scary moment when you see some one who got arrested because they holding some illegal/fake passport or visa >.>

Never heard of that, and I fly 4-5 times a year.

you either fly between domestic only or been lie

[Unklemonkey]

I never really had a problem with that, dunno why people freak out. >_> I wouldnt like the idea of having camera in my house, but biodata? That's doesnt really hurt my privacy.

It's like they said in the article. Mistakes happen, thousands of them.

I for one don't want to be shipped off to a secret CIA facility in europe and then on to Syria to be tortured because a computer glitch matched me with a terrorist, and then be denied reparations or even an apology when they eventually figure out the guy they've been waterboarding for 6 months is the wrong one.

This post is awesome, and will eventually happen someday if this is put into place.

[archibaldcrane]

Never heard of that, and I fly 4-5 times a year.

you either fly between domestic only or been lie

Yes, domestic flights in America.

[Osede]

then, thats the reason >.>


i wish i should have not went back home country for vacation during 2003 summer, so I won't get that special registrationi

[BerenTebogo]

I never really had a problem with that, dunno why people freak out. >_> I wouldnt like the idea of having camera in my house, but biodata? That's doesnt really hurt my privacy.

It's like they said in the article. Mistakes happen, thousands of them.

I for one don't want to be shipped off to a secret CIA facility in europe and then on to Syria to be tortured because a computer glitch matched me with a terrorist, and then be denied reparations or even an apology when they eventually figure out the guy they've been waterboarding for 6 months is the wrong one.

Seriously.

I mean, yeah, this isn't serious but in the grand scheme of things none of these actions are independent of one-another, the past decade has been a downward slope towards a place, I for one, don't want to be in.

Is this the straw breaking my back? No. Do I have anything to hide to warrant not wanting this for myself or my family? No. Does that mean that every time something like this is announced I don't want more and more to have my own personal Bat-Cave hidden away from society? Well, I'll let you guess the answer to this one.

Until the next motion geared towards universally suppressing privacy, I'll be spelunking.

[archibaldcrane]

then, thats the reason >.>


i wish i should have not went back home country for vacation during 2003 summer, so I won't get that special registrationi

I'm assuming you aren't an American. I honestly don't have a problem with America collecting this type of information from non-citizens, but from citizens I think it needs to be carefully applied.

[Tyche]

I never really had a problem with that, dunno why people freak out. >_> I wouldnt like the idea of having camera in my house, but biodata? That's doesnt really hurt my privacy.

It's like they said in the article. Mistakes happen, thousands of them.

I for one don't want to be shipped off to a secret CIA facility in europe and then on to Syria to be tortured because a computer glitch matched me with a terrorist, and then be denied reparations or even an apology when they eventually figure out the guy they've been waterboarding for 6 months is the wrong one.

Seriously.

I mean, yeah, this isn't serious but in the grand scheme of things none of these actions are independent of one-another, the past decade has been a downward slope towards a place, I for one, don't want to be in.

Is this the straw breaking my back? No. Do I have anything to hide to warrant not wanting this for myself or my family? No. Does that mean that every time something like this is announced I don't want more and more to have my own personal Bat-Cave hidden away from society? Well, I'll let you guess the answer to this one.

Until the next motion geared towards universally suppressing privacy, I'll be spelunking.

You realize this already happens, and implementing this would be an attempt to cut down on falsely accusing someone by having more creteria to compare against...

[Saga]

I never really had a problem with that, dunno why people freak out. >_> I wouldnt like the idea of having camera in my house, but biodata? That's doesnt really hurt my privacy.

It's like they said in the article. Mistakes happen, thousands of them.

I for one don't want to be shipped off to a secret CIA facility in europe and then on to Syria to be tortured because a computer glitch matched me with a terrorist, and then be denied reparations or even an apology when they eventually figure out the guy they've been waterboarding for 6 months is the wrong one.

Seriously.

I mean, yeah, this isn't serious but in the grand scheme of things none of these actions are independent of one-another, the past decade has been a downward slope towards a place, I for one, don't want to be in.

Is this the straw breaking my back? No. Do I have anything to hide to warrant not wanting this for myself or my family? No. Does that mean that every time something like this is announced I don't want more and more to have my own personal Bat-Cave hidden away from society? Well, I'll let you guess the answer to this one.

Until the next motion geared towards universally suppressing privacy, I'll be spelunking.

You realize this already happens, and implementing this would be an attempt to cut down on falsely accusing someone by having more creteria to compare against...

Exactly. Alleya's example is a gross exaggeration of whatever negative outcome might come of this program. People are just as falsely convicted now, mistakes happen just as often now; this new FBI program is just going to be another barrier to help prevent mistakes from happening. You aren't giving up anything ffs, this is just another variation on Social Security databases, all of that. I'm sure SSN's are looked up in investigations much like these new fingerprint and palm ID systems are going to be in the future. Is your privacy invaded by having a social security number? Either way your personal information is in a government database. It's been like that for years, deal with it.

[Alleya]

For every criteria, there's more chance for errors. I don't think anyone has ever accused security personnel of being exceptionally thorough. The reason things like that already happen is because they aren't. Why give them more ammunition at the cost of my own privacy?

[Saga]

For every criteria, there's more chance for errors. I don't think anyone has ever accused security personnel of being exceptionally thorough. The reason things like that already happen is because they aren't. Why give them more ammunition at the cost of my own privacy?

What are you sacrificing by having your palm ID and fingerprints in a computer system? With so many prints in their database, they're likely going to get several partial matches. With those matches are then going to come background checks, criminal records pulled up, all the shit they do now. They aren't going to go and arrest you and 20 other people based on a partial match given your hopefully clean record and Joe Blow's extensive list of criminal activity.

[sunb1ind]

So, I assume you guys are ok with a National ID card, too?

Lol and it will happen very soon thanks to the mindsets like some of whom that has posted on here. Its fun being sheep

[Kuya]

HELP, I LIKE GRASS

[thestalkmore]

So, I assume you guys are ok with a National ID card, too?

Lol and it will happen very soon thanks to the mindsets like some of whom that has posted on here. Its fun being sheep

SOMEONE SHEAR ME PLEASE.

GTFO with your 38 posts. More than that, GTFO with your pathetic grammar. If you're seriously going to attack the credibility and intellectual tenets of another person, you should should try to do so without looking like a maladroit idiot.

Have fun with your anarchy Captain Prepubescent McFadrider.

[BRP]

My palms and eyes are PRIVATE. You can't see them FBI.

[Saga]

So, I assume you guys are ok with a National ID card, too?

Lol and it will happen very soon thanks to the mindsets like some of whom that has posted on here. Its fun being sheep

you're right, I'd much rather completely over-dramatize the situation at hand and scream "CIVIL RIGHTS WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" every time the government so much as mentions expanding on fingerprint identification systems.

[Kuya]

Have fun with your anarchy Captain Prepubescent McFadrider.

My palms and eyes are PRIVATE. You can't see them FBI.

I feel right, you guys, i feel right.