Ares's Cuirass

[Antz]

So i was wondering, if any non Ebody WARs have tried using this to TP in or to WS in? I tried today just Rampaging in it while i had buffs in, had Madrigal and only 5 Axe merits(have multiple 75s so only 5) and was getting 16% TP return most the time. Thoughts please, anyone else tried it yet? Thanx in advance :D

[Ryko]

wow you had madrigal on a job with an exclusive +25 acc job ability that can be up 3/4 of the time and you say your accuracy wasn't bad?

Are you sure?

[Antz]

wow you had madrigal on a job with an exclusive +25 acc job ability that can be up 3/4 of the time and you say your accuracy wasn't bad?

Are you sure?

Well, 4got to mention we had 2 BRDs ;x 2x Min and 1x Marc and 1 Mad ;x

[Ryko]

I dunno, I find your claims highly suspect.

[Antz]

I dunno, I find your claims highly suspect.

And why would you say that?

[Berdysh]

I've never had problems with ACC in my Ares's Cuirass using GAxe, and I actually find it preferable for WAR/SAM play. I don't think there's any argument that it would perform as well as an e-body or probably even a Haub/Haub +1 for an Axe/Axe or Ridill WAR, though. I remember stubbornly using it back when I Axe/Axe'd on WAR and my ACC would hover between 80-86% depending on the camp (I never take Madrigal, even in double Bard situations), so I imagine a Haubergeon +1 would have helped my damage quite a bit more.

[Antz]

I've never had problems with ACC in my Ares's Cuirass using GAxe, and I actually find it preferable for WAR/SAM play. I don't think there's any argument that it would perform as well as an e-body or probably even a Haub/Haub +1 for an Axe/Axe or Ridill WAR, though. I remember stubbornly using it back when I Axe/Axe'd on WAR and my ACC would hover between 80-86% depending on the camp (I never take Madrigal, even in double Bard situations), so I imagine a Haubergeon +1 would have helped my damage quite a bit more.

I use Man/Ridill, seemed ok to me, just used Hauby+1 when i fought high eva mobs(we was at mamools in nyzul). Just wondered what others thought

[skurlover]

I've never had problems with ACC in my Ares's Cuirass using GAxe, and I actually find it preferable for WAR/SAM play. I don't think there's any argument that it would perform as well as an e-body or probably even a Haub/Haub +1 for an Axe/Axe or Ridill WAR, though. I remember stubbornly using it back when I Axe/Axe'd on WAR and my ACC would hover between 80-86% depending on the camp (I never take Madrigal, even in double Bard situations), so I imagine a Haubergeon +1 would have helped my damage quite a bit more.

I use Man/Ridill, seemed ok to me, just used Hauby+1 when i fought high eva mobs(we was at mamools in nyzul). Just wondered what others thought

It's amazing to me that you can't catch Ryko's sarcasm.

[Sprint]

I use ares gauntlets to make up for the lack of acc in body slot for rampage; they still have 4 str so its not too far off nhands.

[Septimus]

wow you had madrigal on a job with an exclusive +25 acc job ability that can be up 3/4 of the time and you say your accuracy wasn't bad?

Are you sure?

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[Ryko]

I surely didn't give the answer or anything in that thinly veiled sarcasm either. Guy had acc practically bleeding out of his ears (which doesn't account for possible food at all) and he's surprised he landed hits on a VT mob, what did you expect me to say?

[Neosutra]

I had a question along these lines, I may be taking war up next and every damned war I inv to meripo has a differnt setup and weapon.

I was going to shoot for Gaxe build war/sam (keeping axe up there ofcourse), and here is what I have so far:

Weapon: Have no fucking clue, Byakkos? Rune? Fort? Martial?

Head: Askar (for TP and WS, or swap for Ohat for WS, I dont have N.head).
Neck: PCC/Gorgets/Fort torque.
Body: Ares/Haub
Hands: Askar/Heca/Alk
Back: Cerb
Waste: Swift/warewolf
Legs: Haidate
Feet: amir/unicron/heca
Rings: acc for TP. str/acc depending on WS.
Earrigns: ethereal/brutal for GAxe, Suppa/Brual for axes.
Ranged: bomblet.

I think that setup will do me well, but my combat merits are tied up in mnk/nin/pld and I really dont know what weapon to use here, and if I would be a sub par war w/o the combat merits. Also, every god damned war/sam I see if party is a goober of an mp sponge. Are they just sucking at it and refusing to use seigon? Or are they just timing hate wrong? I want to maximize damge output w/o being a leech.

[Intense]

I surely didn't give the answer or anything in that thinly veiled sarcasm either. Guy had acc practically bleeding out of his ears (which doesn't account for possible food at all) and he's surprised he landed hits on a VT mob, what did you expect me to say?

Probably nothing at all.

[Ryko]

Stupid sexy flanders.

[Septimus]

I surely didn't give the answer or anything in that thinly veiled sarcasm either. Guy had acc practically bleeding out of his ears (which doesn't account for possible food at all) and he's surprised he landed hits on a VT mob, what did you expect me to say?

Here's what I would have said.

So i was wondering, if any non Ebody WARs have tried using this to TP in or to WS in? I tried today just Rampaging in it while i had buffs in, had Madrigal and only 5 Axe merits(have multiple 75s so only 5) and was getting 16% TP return most the time. Thoughts please, anyone else tried it yet? Thanx in advance :D

*Moves on to the next topic.*

[BerenTebogo]

I tp in Askar and WS in Ares bodies for Great Axe, ACC is no problem really.

It's absolutely dreadful doing hasso full time in salvage, which is pretty much the only place I use WAR, so much damage + 6hit, it's nice.

[Berdysh]

Whether WAR/SAM's a good idea depends on the party, though they can also be sucking at it - a lot of people suck with Seigan. I really only party with friends, and it's typically a WAR/SAM, SAM/WAR, MNK/WAR, WHM, BRD, BRD style setup. Stuff dies too fast for MP to ever be a concern, and if a mob's being particularly annoying the WAR and SAM can just pop Seigan which works just fine in merits (and you'll still do more damage /SAM with Seigan up fulltime than /NIN, anyway). I don't know about pickups - I'd probably /NIN, not worth the headache.

And yeah, like the above poster said, WAR/SAM is pretty nutso in in Salvage.

When you're /SAM, with your build, Rune Chopper's going to be the best if you have a Refresh, then Perdu/Byakko's. I used to use Fortitude Axe a lot when /NIN, but it doesn't parse nearly as well /SAM in situations where you're keeping Hasso up.

[Antz]

I surely didn't give the answer or anything in that thinly veiled sarcasm either. Guy had acc practically bleeding out of his ears (which doesn't account for possible food at all) and he's surprised he landed hits on a VT mob, what did you expect me to say?

Well, last time i looked this was an advice forum, so i thought I'd ask the question, yes i may have "acc bleeding out of my ears" but even now and then i don't land all my hits in rampage even w/ hauby+1 on.

So surely there was no harm to ask if others did use Ares's for TP/WS was there? Also with the total post count you have, i wouldn't have expected an answer coming from someone like you tbh.

But thankyou to everyone else that had something useful to say.

[Baha]

I had a question along these lines, I may be taking war up next and every damned war I inv to meripo has a differnt setup and weapon.

I think that setup will do me well, but my combat merits are tied up in mnk/nin/pld and I really dont know what weapon to use here, and if I would be a sub par war w/o the combat merits. Also, every god damned war/sam I see if party is a goober of an mp sponge. Are they just sucking at it and refusing to use seigon? Or are they just timing hate wrong? I want to maximize damge output w/o being a leech.

Weapon/grip : Perdu ideally, Byakko and martial ok substitutes, Pole strap (some people like rampager/claymore for raging rush, should work out ok too possibly) Not sure how Fortitude compares.
ear: assault/brutal probably best, but ethereal/brutal isn't too gimp, works for WS too, suppa/brutal for dw tp obviously.

WAR with gaxe seems impossible to fuck up, looks like you can just slap on haste gear, one or two snipers, a swift belt, bomblet and a chivchain, go eat meat, and parse 85%+ accuracy on any merit mob.

Really need to cap my gaxe so I can verify that. >_>

[idunno]

I tp in Askar and WS in Ares bodies for Great Axe, ACC is no problem really.

It's absolutely dreadful doing hasso full time in salvage, which is pretty much the only place I use WAR, so much damage + 6hit, it's nice.

A quick question that is related to this: For 6 hit on War/Sam is all you need Askar body, Rajas & Brutal? Or is there more?