Ares's Cuirass

[tyven]

I tp in Askar and WS in Ares bodies for Great Axe, ACC is no problem really.

It's absolutely dreadful doing hasso full time in salvage, which is pretty much the only place I use WAR, so much damage + 6hit, it's nice.

A quick question that is related to this: For 6 hit on War/Sam is all you need Askar body, Rajas & Brutal? Or is there more?

thats more than enough, i have a 6 hit with only +7 STP. askar body, rajas, and brutal is 11 so you are good to go. this is with a 504 delay greataxe btw. (byakko's, rampager, perdu, rune chopper, fortitude, martial are all 504)

[Ferien]

Don't underestimate the Choppa. Even with just Sanction refresh, it's pretty mean.

As for STP, 7 (Rajas or Askar, Brutal, and Chiv Chain) is enough, and if you're exclusively using Raging Rush, you can swap out the Chiv Chain for Fort Torque or PCC, since the extra hits give you enough TP to go over 100.

[Drunkenmonk]

would that apply for 501 delay perdu/guillotine too? dont feel like dropping my sattva only to find out i need to use a fucking chiv chain.

[tyven]

would that apply for 501 delay perdu/guillotine too? dont feel like dropping my sattva only to find out i need to use a fucking chiv chain.

according to my calculations (which are probably wrong) a 501 delay scythe with +7STP and sam sub will only get you to 99% tp on 6 swings, however this should only be a problem before your first ws (easily solved by using meditate before opening the fight), because the extra tp from guillotine will push you over 100 by the sixth swing.

Edit: having touble wording this properly but basically, after your first guillotine a 501 delay scythe and +7stp is enough for a six hit build /sam.

[Retrieving/C.D/Searain]

I surely didn't give the answer or anything in that thinly veiled sarcasm either. Guy had acc practically bleeding out of his ears (which doesn't account for possible food at all) and he's surprised he landed hits on a VT mob, what did you expect me to say?

Well, last time i looked this was an advice forum, so i thought I'd ask the question, yes i may have "acc bleeding out of my ears" but even now and then i don't land all my hits in rampage even w/ hauby+1 on.

So surely there was no harm to ask if others did use Ares's for TP/WS was there? Also with the total post count you have, i wouldn't have expected an answer coming from someone like you tbh.

But thankyou to everyone else that had something useful to say.

You posed an outrageously unintelligent question whose answer and erroneus premises should've been more than apparent for someone who owns both a Ridill and an A-cuirass, furthermore you apparently did your best to stick with the clique which depicts EU players as hopelessly afflicted by inherent obtuseness, don't be surprised if people (righteously) started mocking you lol.

Besides, you won't get the answer you were looking for regardless the sarcasm or rather, lack thereof, especially for a RidillWAR I'm afraid Ebody still yields substantially better overall performances than Ares despite the eyeballed TP return mentioned above so get back to staring at darters and good luck.

[Tomiko]

Also with the total post count you have, i wouldn't have expected an answer coming from someone like you tbh.

lol

Personally, I think you should invest in a Scorpion Harness. :rocl:


Legit Answer: TP in Haub+1. For 1h WS, unless you're comfortable with your WS Acc, I'd go with the Haub+1. If you feel you have enough Acc, use Ares.

/shit's situational

[Max™]

Ebody > Anything for Raging Rush, Str/Dex/Acc/Att
Are's > Anything for Steel Cyclone, Str/Vit/Att

Rampager is better than Byakko's in my experience, depending on the situation it can be quite a bit better for RR spamming. I imagine it has to be close to Perdu as Byakko's > Perdu isn't really as huge of a jump as you might think.

Ebody > Anything for Axe/Sword or Axe/Axe, seeing a Ridill/Joyeuse with an Are's Body and not for towngear makes me a sad panda unless you just don't have Ebody > Nbody > Haub +1.

[ninjafox]

Max, are you saying Byakko's is better than Perdu's? I haven't done any testing and I can't since I'm away from the game for 2 weeks, but I recentlly came into Perdu's voulge and thought it would have been the better of the 2 based on the stats.

[Baha]

Think he means the transition from Byakko's to Perdu. So Perdu better than Byakko's, but not by as much as you'd thing, and Rampager somewhere close to Perdu.

[Seditedi]

I'd want that 10 DEX for a crit WS like Rampage/Raging Rush.
Use Ebody or Haub+1 if you got it for those WS.

[ninjafox]

Think he means the transition from Byakko's to Perdu. So Perdu better than Byakko's, but not by as much as you'd thing, and Rampager somewhere close to Perdu.

Ah thanks for clearing that up.

[Antz]

Also with the total post count you have, i wouldn't have expected an answer coming from someone like you tbh.

lol

Personally, I think you should invest in a Scorpion Harness. :rocl:


Legit Answer: TP in Haub+1. For 1h WS, unless you're comfortable with your WS Acc, I'd go with the Haub+1. If you feel you have enough Acc, use Ares.

/shit's situational

Forum rules

This forum is for asking questions or discussing certain aspects of the game.

As it stats this is a forum to ask these types of questions, and since i only just got mine, I thought someone with better knowledge could advise or give advice in this matter.

I havn't played the game too long myself, thought someone with alot more experience than myself could answer.

As for Scorpion Harness, I've Hq'd too many, sick of the sight of them, hence i don't even own one myself. :rocl:

Edit: Spelling.

[Max™]

Think he means the transition from Byakko's to Perdu. So Perdu better than Byakko's, but not by as much as you'd thing, and Rampager somewhere close to Perdu.

Dmg 94 Att +5 (lolwind dmg)
Dmg 96 (91) Acc +5 Att +10 (it is +10 isn't it? I keep hearing that, yet sometimes I hear 15 or something.

Same wRank, Perdu loses out if you overswing and go a hit past 100% or higher, Byakko's loses out on max epeen shots (which are really best if you do on Firesday with Mighty Axe, D:98 Go!) but really the difference in damage with a 2h weapon isn't as big as you'd think.

I couldn't believe a 1950 Steel Cyclone to Kirin with Fortitude Axe, which I deliberately started a TP burn with to AVOID doing a 2k Steel Cyclone > Piss of the big angry bastard > Die fast.

Dmg 64 pwned several of my Dmg 88 Mbhuj ones, and lots of my Dmg 94 Byakko's ones.

I still favor the Rampager, as again, I have it unlocked and never had an assault group besides pickups.

Doing Dyna-Beauc with another War/Sam with nearly identical gear to mine, cept I WS in Heca feet/Barone (no haidate) and he WSes in AF feet/Haidate, he's hume too, and I was generally a bit ahead of him on same mob RR damage, varying with our buffs/when food wore.

[XxSlusherxx]

Neosutra

O.hat is a nice option because you probly already have it. But as a suggestion, and because it's easy to obtain (sans cost) I've always liked Unicorn head for WS. Unicorn suffers from a wonky latent, but I do like the combo of str and acc for rampage and raging rush.

[BerenTebogo]

Last night I merited for one of the first times in months, my Gaxe isn't fully merited yet because as I've stated, I give 2 shits about WAR.

2 BRD
March Min Min March

My gimp WS setup

Byakko
Pole
Bomblet
Nhead
Chiv chain
Triumph
Brutal
Ares
Pallas'
Rajas
Ulthams
Cerb
Warwolf
Byakkos
Nfeet

I missed hits on less than 8% of WS over the course of the night, you don't need ACC with Gaxe as WAR, and if you do, you should quit WAR, I'm gimp as shit and it's easy as hell.

[Tomiko]

As it stats this is a forum to ask these types of questions, and since i only just got mine, I thought someone with better knowledge could advise or give advice in this matter.

Not sure why you quoted me for that considering I gave you a legit answer (in addition to a smartass answer).

Personally, I'm suprised you'd be asking this question assuming your sig is correct and you have Sam, War, Pld & Nin (?) at 75. It's basic DD fundamentals I would hope. A ton of Attack doesn't mean anything if your acc is so bad that you're missing. You just need to find a balance of the 2 that gives you good results and go with that. Hence the "shit's situational".

And Ryko's (or anyone else's for that matter) post count has nothing to do with the quality of a reply you'll get. Which is why I lol'd that part of your post.

I havn't played the game too long myself, thought someone with alot more experience than myself could answer.

As for Scorpion Harness, I've Hq'd too many, sick of the sight of them, hence i don't even own one myself. :rocl:

Bought the account maybe? Although I guess it depends on what your definition of "too long" is.

[Antz]

As it stats this is a forum to ask these types of questions, and since i only just got mine, I thought someone with better knowledge could advise or give advice in this matter.

Not sure why you quoted me for that considering I gave you a legit answer (in addition to a smartass answer).

Personally, I'm suprised you'd be asking this question assuming your sig is correct and you have Sam, War, Pld & Nin (?) at 75. It's basic DD fundamentals I would hope. A ton of Attack doesn't mean anything if your acc is so bad that you're missing. You just need to find a balance of the 2 that gives you good results and go with that. Hence the "shit's situational".

And Ryko's (or anyone else's for that matter) post count has nothing to do with the quality of a reply you'll get. Which is why I lol'd that part of your post.

I havn't played the game too long myself, thought someone with alot more experience than myself could answer.

As for Scorpion Harness, I've Hq'd too many, sick of the sight of them, hence i don't even own one myself. :rocl:

Bought the account maybe? Although I guess it depends on what your definition of "too long" is.

Played for about hmm.. 2yrs maybe, never bought it, i am the only owner of this account. That is correct, WAR, NIN, SAM and PLD 75. Maybe just shows i play this damn game too much.

[Dioma]

How about on DRK, with full time Acc Rings since I don't want to sacrifice all the acc for guillo, would I be safe with Ares body TPing + WSing? I also have Abyssal earring and soon to be capped scythe merits.

[orson]

How about on DRK, with full time Acc Rings since I don't want to sacrifice all the acc for guillo, would I be safe with Ares body TPing + WSing? I also have Abyssal earring and soon to be capped scythe merits.

It's all a balancing act but being that 2-handed weapons naturally now have a much higher dex to acc ratio you'd probably be fine especially if you have merited scythe.