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  1. #41
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    Re: Apoc Owners

    Quote Originally Posted by cyphx
    OMG Arthars im with you on the askar head piece thing. I have an ace's helm but i like/want (Has not dropped yet) Askar i even made thread awhile back asking which would be better Askar or Ace's but like 80% said Ace's. Oh and btw thx so much to all of you that has given good info and feedback in this thread i really appreciate the info.
    diff between the 2 head is the 4 dex vs 7 acc
    4 dex MAY help crit a bit and gives 3 acc, and 2H(+relic) wouldnt have problem landing hits in normal TP hits

    + the looks of askar head, i'll go for askar 24/7

    if i have both, at least i know my mannequin is gotta be happy

  2. #42
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    Re: Apoc Owners

    Would -3 MND being a secondary modifier of Guillotine hurt the use of Ares's Flanchard much?
    (I don't really know how much MND plays into Guillo).

  3. #43
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    Re: Apoc Owners

    Considering it's a 25% MND modifier, I'd take 1 less base damage on the first hit for the STR/DEX+6 and DA+2% =p. I like using Ares legs for Guillotine/Rampage.

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    Re: Apoc Owners

    My view on mnd is on guillotine is how long the silence lasts.

    Hence mnd = shit.

    If I had them, I would agree on using ares legs on guillotine for stuff like merit parties for the extra 2% double attack. I'd probably still use my onyx for hnm stuff just for the attack.

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    Re: Apoc Owners

    Quote Originally Posted by Lukias
    My view on mnd is on guillotine is how long the silence lasts.

    Hence mnd = shit.
    It's been tested and confirmed that MND affects damage. TP affects the duration of Silence as stated by the in game description. In any event, the -3 MND is negligible.

  6. #46
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    Re: Apoc Owners

    Quote Originally Posted by Arthars
    Quote Originally Posted by cyphx
    OMG Arthars im with you on the askar head piece thing. I have an ace's helm but i like/want (Has not dropped yet) Askar i even made thread awhile back asking which would be better Askar or Ace's but like 80% said Ace's. Oh and btw thx so much to all of you that has given good info and feedback in this thread i really appreciate the info.
    diff between the 2 head is the 4 dex vs 7 acc
    4 dex MAY help crit a bit and gives 3 acc, and 2H(+relic) wouldnt have problem landing hits in normal TP hits

    + the looks of askar head, i'll go for askar 24/7

    if i have both, at least i know my mannequin is gotta be happy
    open ur mog so i can swap places with your mannequin lol

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    Re: Apoc Owners

    An armadaberk/apo owner talking about Onyx being "super rare"?

    ERROR
    ERROR
    DOES NOT COMPUTE
    From the lack of common sense posts you two have been posting, I would imagine this is what a point system does to you?
    I sure am glad an Armaberk/Apo and an Ares'/Apo DRK are starting threads like these.















    :nikkei: :nikkei: :nikkei: Yup :nikkei:

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    Re: Apoc Owners

    Quote Originally Posted by Lukias
    My view on mnd is on guillotine is how long the silence lasts.

    Hence mnd = shit.
    Quote Originally Posted by Seidell
    It's been tested and confirmed that MND affects damage. TP affects the duration of Silence as stated by the in game description. In any event, the -3 MND is negligible.
    Oh I know mnd effects dmg, but its so negligible might as well be the silence! Like Flame ring vs. Triumph ring, the -2mnd doesn't really matter.

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