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  1. #21
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    Re: Full usukane as the best setup for MNK DoT

    Okote/Haramaki/Pln. Qulansawa for me.

    I don't have Ohat, Bando or Togi. I wonder, though, whether HQ Togi is better than Haramaki for WS. There is a 5 ACC difference between them and I already dropped Ugote for Okote.

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    Re: Full usukane as the best setup for MNK DoT

    Quote Originally Posted by Almalexia
    I don't have Ohat
    Wut

  3. #23
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    Re: Full usukane as the best setup for MNK DoT

    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir
    Quote Originally Posted by Almalexia
    I don't have Ohat
    Wut
    Wafik had Mandau before Ohat >_>

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    Re: Full usukane as the best setup for MNK DoT

    Quote Originally Posted by Almalexia
    Okote/Haramaki/Pln. Qulansawa for me.

    I don't have Ohat, Bando or Togi. I wonder, though, whether HQ Togi is better than Haramaki for WS. There is a 5 ACC difference between them and I already dropped Ugote for Okote.
    Why Pln. Qulansawa?? Wouldn't the usukane head or D.head be better??

  5. #25
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    Re: Full usukane as the best setup for MNK DoT

    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir
    Quote Originally Posted by Almalexia
    I don't have Ohat
    Wut
    I don't have Ohat either =x. There's just something visualli unappealing about wearing a street cone on your head. It looks like you're gonna direct traffic or something.

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    Re: Full usukane as the best setup for MNK DoT

    A lot of the people on here who mention they are 5/5 usukane also mentioned having NIN. My question is for the NIN's out there who use something similar for TP gain:

    5/5usu
    2x Sniper
    Senj-perdue
    Speed blet
    Cerb
    Bomblet
    Edit: 8/8 katana

    I'm wondering what avg ACC you parse on something that you can actually get a true parse on like Trolls (IE: no shadows, warm-up, flashga thf mobs) with meat.

    Also on a completely off topic note, if any have Kikoku, or have a friend etc, (I dont, and no plans, just curious) other wiki says metsu is singlehit/non-elemental, what's it like with SATA? anyone seen it, is it lol?

  7. #27
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    Re: Full usukane as the best setup for MNK DoT

    Quote Originally Posted by Chupunpupun
    Quote Originally Posted by Almalexia
    Okote/Haramaki/Pln. Qulansawa for me.

    I don't have Ohat, Bando or Togi. I wonder, though, whether HQ Togi is better than Haramaki for WS. There is a 5 ACC difference between them and I already dropped Ugote for Okote.
    Why Pln. Qulansawa?? Wouldn't the usukane head or D.head be better??
    Pahluwan has 7ACC/5ATK
    Usukane has 7ACC/3STR
    Shura has 5ACC/5STR (HQ 6ACC/6STR)

    Pahluwan has the highest accuracy as well as the highest attack of the three. The mods on Asuran Fists are 10% STR and 10% VIT, so a STR increase isn't as significant as a raw ATK increase (unless, of course, the amount of STR translated into an equal amount of ATK).

  8. #28
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    Re: Full usukane as the best setup for MNK DoT

    Togi seems like a clear winner over haramaki...

    16 acc / 4 attack on haramaki. Strength is almost useless on Asuran.
    10 acc / 20 att on togi
    11 acc / 22 att on togi +1

    So 6 acc for 16 att on NQ. Seeing as you forgo ophat for pln, you're willing to give up 3 acc for 5 att. This choice provides 10 att more than this ratio which completely offsets the +8 str imo.

  9. #29
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    Re: Full usukane as the best setup for MNK DoT

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirschy
    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir
    Quote Originally Posted by Almalexia
    I don't have Ohat
    Wut
    I don't have Ohat either =x. There's just something visualli unappealing about wearing a street cone on your head. It looks like you're gonna direct traffic or something.
    So true.
    Clearly the best hat for Asuran; clearly too the n#1 fugly. No way in hell i ever get one.

  10. #30
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    Re: Full usukane as the best setup for MNK DoT

    Quote Originally Posted by fuergrissa
    A lot of the people on here who mention they are 5/5 usukane also mentioned having NIN. My question is for the NIN's out there who use something similar for TP gain:

    5/5usu
    2x Sniper
    Senj-perdue
    Speed blet
    Cerb
    Bomblet
    Edit: 8/8 katana

    I'm wondering what avg ACC you parse on something that you can actually get a true parse on like Trolls (IE: no shadows, warm-up, flashga thf mobs) with meat.

    Also on a completely off topic note, if any have Kikoku, or have a friend etc, (I dont, and no plans, just curious) other wiki says metsu is singlehit/non-elemental, what's it like with SATA? anyone seen it, is it lol?
    Metsu is pretty good with SA if I'm not mistaken.
    Without SA it's kinda jumpy for a single hit WS, but with SA it makes it alot more stable.

  11. #31
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    Re: Full usukane as the best setup for MNK DoT

    RNG my first job, I had to get the O-hat. It was like a must for first-to-75 NA RNGs that wanted to join an HNM LS lol...

    But yeah I agree, Shura Togi is a clear winner over Haramaki for WS IMO.

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    Re: Full usukane as the best setup for MNK DoT

    In regards to "lolstr" for asuran, something has been bothering me lately: why is it that mnk WS averages get to be a bit more than their average per hit times 8? And that's not even considering that your average number of hits per WS is gonna be lower than 8 anyway. On top of that, in my personal experience I don't really stack much attack for asuran; I'm unmerited so I tend to use Nkote on ws all the time. BB gets swapped to life, sometimes haidate to pln. pants, brutal to minuet, and of course turban to ohat.

    edit: to partially answer my own question- Boost. but that still doesn't seem to account completely for it all.

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    Re: Full usukane as the best setup for MNK DoT

    I put on a shitload of acc for Asuran Fists.

    I hit +90 acc from gear (with Minuet on) including DEX from gear conversions and acc from merits. It's enough to reliably hit the acc cap on VT mobs, and close to enough for IT (assuming Focus isn't up). It still has a good amount of attack along with it as well, so I'm pretty happy with this set of gear.

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    Re: Full usukane as the best setup for MNK DoT

    Optimal TP: Full Usukane, acc rings, torque/pcc, att earring/brutal, tiphia sting, black belt, att mantle
    Optimal WS: o hat, faith torque, att earring x2, shura togi, bando kote, acc rings x2, att mantle, acc belt, usukane legs/feet

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    Re: Full usukane as the best setup for MNK DoT

    This thread cost me 10M.

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    Re: Full usukane as the best setup for MNK DoT

    Quote Originally Posted by Almalexia
    This thread cost me 10M.
    Togi +1?

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    Re: Full usukane as the best setup for MNK DoT

    Quote Originally Posted by Seditedi
    Quote Originally Posted by fuergrissa
    A lot of the people on here who mention they are 5/5 usukane also mentioned having NIN. My question is for the NIN's out there who use something similar for TP gain:

    5/5usu
    2x Sniper
    Senj-perdue
    Speed blet
    Cerb
    Bomblet
    Edit: 8/8 katana

    I'm wondering what avg ACC you parse on something that you can actually get a true parse on like Trolls (IE: no shadows, warm-up, flashga thf mobs) with meat.

    Also on a completely off topic note, if any have Kikoku, or have a friend etc, (I dont, and no plans, just curious) other wiki says metsu is singlehit/non-elemental, what's it like with SATA? anyone seen it, is it lol?
    Metsu is pretty good with SA if I'm not mistaken.
    Without SA it's kinda jumpy for a single hit WS, but with SA it makes it alot more stable.

    I promise not to derail any further after this, but by "pretty good" what kinda range do you get? on hnm? it even close to sam/thf?

  18. #38
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    Re: Full usukane as the best setup for MNK DoT

    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir
    Quote Originally Posted by Almalexia
    This thread cost me 10M.
    Togi +1?
    Or he payed people 500k each to go help him with hakutaku ;3

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    Re: Full usukane as the best setup for MNK DoT

    Quote Originally Posted by LinktheDeme
    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir
    Quote Originally Posted by Almalexia
    This thread cost me 10M.
    Togi +1?
    Or he payed people 500k each to go help him with hakutaku ;3
    Since when did it take 20 people to kill Hakutaku?

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    Re: Full usukane as the best setup for MNK DoT

    Quote Originally Posted by Valisk
    Quote Originally Posted by LinktheDeme
    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir
    Quote Originally Posted by Almalexia
    This thread cost me 10M.
    Togi +1?
    Or he payed people 500k each to go help him with hakutaku ;3
    Since when did it take 20 people to kill Hakutaku?
    2005

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