FL Assault, King goldemar ;;

[Tyrath]

Ok, so my static has had really bad luck with this one. Basically everytime, its his agas that mess us up.

I know smn helps, but my static doesn't have one >_< Is there any advice anyone can give me for how to survive his agas...

Our jobs are:
Drk or Blm
Whm, war, or blu
Pld or Rdm
Pld
Rdm
Drk or Nin



Any advice on how to survive will help >_<

Thank you.

[Hoshiku]

How are you planning to get past his last Thundris Shriek when he starts intimidating everything but ranged attack? Groups I win this with always have a rng or a sam/rng come along to take off that last 20% or so. Also brd is really helpful for this assault. Looking at the jobs you've listed your best bet might be:

Drk
war (really hate to sacrifice that whm)
Rdm
Pld
Rdm
Nin

but it's a long long shot at best. I guess your rdm could always equip a shortbow, pop a sushi, and pray >.>;

[Tajin]

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Been there suffered that. Best advice. Have PLD and some DD feed him TP and lower his HP, rape weapons and hold king. Once weapons are gone you can kite him forever. SMN with Diabolos buffs is awesome here because saves you from the headache of erase, erase, erase.

Edit: Fuck me, missed the part of you not having a SMN.

Guess RDM/WHM, WHM and the other RDM can suffice

[Dammerung]

Your job selection sucks. You have no BRD and he attacks fast as shit.

BLM/WHM
BLU/NIN
RDM/WHM
PLD/NIN
RDM/WHM
DRK/NIN

PLD only on Goldemar at start, give him tp to make the weapons come out. BLU should be ready to get the weapons, BLM and DRK will assist. Get those out of the way quickly, then kill Goldemar. Grav/Kite the daggers, rest shouldn't pose any difficulty. Make sure to keep them away from the mages and Goldemar, as they do have AoE stun.. that fucked up a few of my runs when the other BLU fought them ontop of everyone. Mages shouldn't be hit by anything, PLD should be able to keep sufficient hate. BLU "Saline Coat" is stronger than the MDef down move he does, so make sure to keep that up. PLD has Rampart, so they shouldn't die to anything. Have the DRK move back on MDef and wait for erases.

Setup is shitty, as BRD really is a huge asset to all FL assaults.

[Silpha]

its his agas that mess us up.
Any advice on how to survive will help >_<

Bring Hi-potions ?

How are you planning to get past his last Thundris Shriek when he starts intimidating everything but ranged attack?

Won this with pld mnk rdm brd.

[spooky]

I had lots of trouble with this one too. Iirc it was the last win I needed. In the end it just seemed to come down to luck. We tried loads of stuff and job combos.
But if you can win with 4 as the above poster says then any combo of 6 should work really (within reason).
Just keep trying and you'll win.

[Lexa]

My static has not yet attempted this, but we will later this week, with a setup of:

PLD
MNK
WAR
WHM
RDM or COR
BRD or THF or BLM

Would RDM+BRD be better, or COR+BRD (I know, I know, usually people go gaga for COR+BRD, but thought I'd ask anyway)?

[Isiolia]

You group is rather not-optimal for this. Doesn't mean you can't do it, just that it'll be playing the lottery. Cackle -> -ga or TIV on tank and you'll really be in the hurt locker.

I won this one easily with PLD RDM BRD SMN RNG RNG. Not after a few attempts with 5 though. RNG are ideal DD for him though as they don't get intimidated. SMN, obviously for cackle, as you know. Before snagging a 6th, we had a choice of RNG or SMN. SMN (and BLM) wasn't enough damage, and with RNG our tank got Cackle-> Immediate Thunder IV for over 1500 damage. With Aegis. Dream Shroud: more than just a good idea.

I wouldn't bring a BLM. Nuke damage is shitty on the king himself. Otherwise, eh, setups mentioned could try. Your overall selection is very meh for this one, so there's really no "good" setup among it, IMO.

Would RDM+BRD be better, or COR+BRD (I know, I know, usually people go gaga for COR+BRD, but thought I'd ask anyway)?

I'd do COR for damage. Ranged attacks don't get intimidated, and he starts to intimidate quite a bit later in the fight.

[Slott]

Er just have a dedicated stunner against the -gas? I make a blackmage come and do nothing but stun gas the entire fight, until i'm far away enough to kite (during a weapon spawn)

[Nameless]

Yea, you kinda need a bard with your setup for the purpose of March and perhaps drk can zerg it. I am a drk/sam (if you are not zerging, have the drk go as drk/nin), and during my winning try, we had a plan for me to zerg it as soon as all weapons are dead, cuz if you zerg at the end it is a waste. So at around 50% I started zerging with 100 Chopper and brought it down to around 5% (I was intimidated at the end, but everyone else was also 2hring). Then we just grind out the last 5%. It wiped us at 1% and we had to just zombie DoT it with rdm and whm.

Setup was Pld, mnk, drk, brd, rdm, whm I believe. Pld did a hell of the job tanking. I recommand you go all out at 50% and bring it down asap when it is slow reacting to all the damage. You just might be able to kill it fast enough before it knows it is at 20% and use the intimidate move.

Was like 1/8 or so, hardest one by far. 1/1 on cerby. Did this with a pickup group lol.

[Nameless]

As far as ga, you have to have good healers. I usually eat the ga unless we have crackle on us then the melees will run away til crackle wears and have only the pld eat it. I tried stunning it a few time, but sometimes I get resisted, so you can't really rely on it, plus it has pretty fastcast. Good and multiple mages are needed.

[Octavious]

I recently completed this assault with a somewhat wierd setup myself. I think you could do it in a similar way depending on how skilled your PLD is. You could try DRK/NIN, BLU/NIN, RDM/NIN, PLD/NIN, RDM/WHM, NIN/WAR with your setup. The way we went about it was pretty similar since we had a RDM/NIN tank King Goldemar (IE: Spam Sleep,Bind,Dispel,SleepII,Blind) and the other DDs (DRK,BLU,PLD,NIN for your group) move to a weapon when they came. The RDM/WHM would be your main heal for this setup.

As some people mentioned since you are Melee heavy and they lack Ranged Ability you might have a little bit of a rough time but it shouldn't be too bad. The RDM/NIN can kite/tank the King around the main circle room and the RDM/WHM can stand in the hall to call out when and which weapon is coming when called. Usually cast bind/gravity on the weapon, something to get its attention. The Melee would be saving TP on King Goldemar then immediatly rush over and WS the weapon dead. This works pretty well for most of the Weapons since they only have ~3,500 HP. The shield does take a bit longer since it has higher defense.

Once he summons the Rod, it's almost impossible to keep King Goldemar from running over to it. He blatently ignored our RDM/NIN who had been keeping hate quite well, and ran over to the rod's location. It's a high priority you take that Rod out as fast as possibly, because it can cast some devistating blows with Cure spells. At least I think your best bet given the setup might work out like this if one of the two RDMs in your setup is a decent tank.

As far as my setup went, I had SAM/NIN, SAM/NIN, RNG/NIN, RDM/NIN, RDM/WHM, NIN/WAR. The SAMs TP'd up using Shigeto and would run in to Gekko the Weapons or King Goldemar depending on which is pertinant. The RDM/NIN tanked the King the entire fight and the NIN went to tank the incoming weapons. The King is easily kited so if you have issues it's not too big of a deal to just keep running however we straight tanked it most of the time. Definitly Ranged Damage is usually the best bet, but I still think you can win it with something like the above setup, might want to bring some Hi-Potions if you can take the Inventory hit. The worst thing I had to deal with in that Assault was...Hellsnap? I think...It's the AoE thunder damage stun move that hit us for 200~300 damage along with a 30-45sec Stun. I forget the exact name...but that move gave us the most hassle.

[Wizerd]

Quick Cursna, fast Erase x3 from 3 different people, on your PLD/NIN first, then the other two melees (don't use more than 2 melee), and a good healer (WHM preferred), and this assault is easy as pie.

In the end it all comes down to player skill. A Cackle > -aga III won't kill your PLD because the Erases should be landing before the spell. Your melees run away if they get cackled, don't have hate, and he's due to cast again soon.

Don't bother holding back on your damage. The lower you get him without him summoning all the weapons, the better, if you can straight tank. If I recall, he doesn't start intimidating until after the last weapon has been summoned. We usually got him to ~35-50% before we killed all the weapons, when we killed him several times before. One time, and I can't remember exactly what caused it, he didn't intimidate us at all. Not at low HP, not at high. I think it had something to do with getting it past a certain point before he summoned the last weapon.

Edit: Also, the best thing I can suggest for your group is to have 1 person sit out, replace them with a BRD you might know or a pick up (hopefully they're good), and just do the assault twice; change players for the second assault, have someone else sit out. BRD is key in any of these assaults, they are quite hard without one, and this one probably the hardest.

Edit2: Hellsnap's stun is something like 10 seconds, max, it's not even close to 30 seconds. I can't remember being stunned very long, it was just annoying.

[Octavious]

Yea, I looked on the wiki and the stun isn't as long as I remembered. As wizerd said it's just really annoying, lol I'm thinking thats why i remembered it as a long stun. Yea, Wizerd's right it's only like 10seconds.

[Shaard]

My static has not yet attempted this, but we will later this week, with a setup of:

PLD
MNK
WAR
WHM
RDM or COR
BRD or THF or BLM

Would RDM+BRD be better, or COR+BRD (I know, I know, usually people go gaga for COR+BRD, but thought I'd ask anyway)?

That's almost how my static did it, except we had another monk instead of a WAR. We used the RDM/WHM+WHM+BRD combo.

[Tyrath]

Er just have a dedicated stunner against the -gas? I make a blackmage come and do nothing but stun gas the entire fight, until i'm far away enough to kite (during a weapon spawn)

You can't stun him ;\


Thanks for all the advice guys. We're gonna keep at it and hope we can pull something off x.x

[Tajin]

You can stun him, just need a fuckton Dark skill. But BLM is just good as extra Erase / Cures / Kill weapons really.

And Bio2.

[Tyrath]

You can stun him, just need a fuckton Dark skill. But BLM is just good as extra Erase / Cures / Kill weapons really.

And Bio2.

Hmm, how much Dark skill do you think would be needed to stun him reliably?