hay BG, ninja madness

[evilpaul]

I loved the elemental wheel until about level 50. It was amazing and I wish I could use it every day of my life, plus it totally kept my Ninjutsu capped. Then Colibri came in and I wanted to an hero myself.

This is pretty much it. People used to talk about using the wheel until around 60, I think, but as soon as you start on Colibri it just turns into total crap. Which blows, since you're not hitting them with your katanas much either, because you can't use food. Trying to keep hate off a MNK/WAR with enmity merits and a DRK/WAR...did not happen. I did reasonably well after I got Jin, and great while I could still use the wheel, but there was this big colibri-shaped hole of "hate4all" in the middle.

I used Federation Kyahan instead of Fumas because I didn't care that hard about 3% haste with no other haste equipped. YMMV.

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/9...shmurrekk6.jpg
There's actually alternatives to the Colibri jerkfaces. The wheel still died at about 55 though.

[wintersquall]

update:

had my first lv40 nin pt last night after questing my AF katanas... i forgot how much i hated pickup parties, especially at low lvls >.<

blind invite, i dragged along a whm friend of mine about to ding 39 - pt took almost FORTY min to get to CN. upon arriving, pt lead insisted that we go to secret room >.> also, otw there the DNC and the THF were constantly talking shit about who could solo faster lol... the thief actually brags that he 'never' dies a couple times - that becomes lol later.

so (i'm in it for the lulz at this point) we go down there, pull a soldier and kill it slowly. note this first fight is the ONLY fight out of 7-8 where the thief TAd me at the start of the fight after being told to - i never saw it again. next pull, thief gets aggro and brings back an exoray (lv 51-54 or something) after i told him crawlers onry. we still manage to kill it - barely. i have to scream at the thf not to pull because melees are low on HP and mages are low on MP. next pull, he brings back a hornfly (lv 50-53 i believe). pt wipes.

we get back up, unweaken and rest. DNC (pt lead) says he'll pull from now on. thief sulks.

DNC promptly aggros two crawlers and brings them both back to camp after saying he had RR up >.> BLM sleep fails, BLM dies. WHM dies trying to cure BLM, RR is up so she gets up and pops RR again. THF targets green crawler (i.e. not the one i'm currently fighting), tries to show his mad soloing skillz and lasts 20 seconds before faceplanting. DNC dies at camp from pull, RRs and dies 4 seconds later from poison breath. DRK busts SE+LR or something at start of fight and dies from the weight of his sheer noobiness.

second crawler depops, leaving me and a weakened whm with a 98% full IT crawler.

lemme tell ya right now - i officially love ninja =D

my friend the whm had to bene with me at 6 hp, of course it killed her. pt begins bitching about her RRing and helping me because they'd have to wait for a raise or for someone to HP >.> meanwhile, i'm zoning out and learning first-hand how to play ninja the hard way

i finally killed that bish, after idk how long. got like 3-4 lvls of ninjutsu skillups during that fight alone.

the elemental wheel is AMAZING at 40 - it's gonna cost me boatloads to level this job until it dies out, but i spammed the hell out of it. it makes me sad to think of the time when it will become ineffective. even without a TA from the thief and a comparatively low ninjutsu skill for my level, only thing that could pull hate was the DRK with /ja WS or a strong TA, and not for more than a second or two at any rate.

what i learned:

- despite this game being a good stretch into it's lifecycle, noobs are noobs.
- ninja fucking rocks.


thanks for the tips guys, that crawler wouldn't have gone down without the prep i got here.

[Rocl]

I loved the elemental wheel until about level 50. It was amazing and I wish I could use it every day of my life, plus it totally kept my Ninjutsu capped. Then Colibri came in and I wanted to an hero myself.

This is pretty much it. People used to talk about using the wheel until around 60, I think, but as soon as you start on Colibri it just turns into total crap. Which blows, since you're not hitting them with your katanas much either, because you can't use food. Trying to keep hate off a MNK/WAR with enmity merits and a DRK/WAR...did not happen. I did reasonably well after I got Jin, and great while I could still use the wheel, but there was this big colibri-shaped hole of "hate4all" in the middle.

I used Federation Kyahan instead of Fumas because I didn't care that hard about 3% haste with no other haste equipped. YMMV.

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/9...shmurrekk6.jpg
There's actually alternatives to the Colibri jerkfaces. The wheel still died at about 55 though.

Colibri, not lesser colibri. The big bad ones that reflect shit. I did Marsh Murres too kthx

[Bakthi]

(bird image)
There's actually alternatives to the Colibri jerkfaces. The wheel still died at about 55 though.

Oh yes, I made liberal use of them on DNC, soloed there on BST, and even did a few as NIN. But you're right, the wheel still wasn't that fabulous (though fortunately DD gear and Jin is right around the corner). It's a shame that a lot of the gear that gives large +ninjutsu boosts is way to high to help out with the wheel in exp (though I did macro it all in for debuffs...yes, even Astute Cape).