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  1. #21
    Bagel
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    Re: Account Returned List

    Quote Originally Posted by yoyo
    well i dunno.
    he could say i gave him the ID and that i lied in my notarized paper.
    All i kinda wanna know is, can SE hold something big against you on that notarized paper
    What are you afraid of? That they'll cancel your account for lying to them? The notarization is nothing more than an authority figure vouching that it was really you who signed it and not an imposter, nothing more.

    By the way, does he have any proof that you gave him the ID willingly (such as if you emailed it to him)? Can he prove that he didn't hack it or find out where you had it written down?

  2. #22
    Quizno
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    Re: Account Returned List

    It doesn't matter, under SE's rules accounts are to be used only by the person who originally opens the account.

    By the letter of the rule you can't transfer the account to someone even if you wanted to.

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    Re: Account Returned List

    Quote Originally Posted by Quizno
    It doesn't matter, under SE's rules accounts are to be used only by the person who originally opens the account.

    By the letter of the rule you can't transfer the account to someone even if you wanted to.
    It appears that you think his concern is that the "friend" will claim the account was transferred to him. This is not the case.

    Yoyo is worried that one of the following will happen if SE finds out the truth:
    A) SE declares a violation of the POL User Agreement and bans the account
    B) SE prosecutes him for submitting a false notarized document

    (A) is a who-cares ending because I'm sure he would rather take a shot at getting the account back and possibly fail than not try at all and definitely fail.
    (B) in theory would be pretty ugly but would it really happen? And could they really prove that you shared the information as opposed to having it stolen?

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    Re: Account Returned List

    Quote Originally Posted by Flight_93
    If you're over 18, yes. And that "something big" happens to be perjury.

    A notarized document confirming your identiy is a sworn statement carrying the penalty of perjury. The notary is a member of the court (technically) and has the authority to do this.
    SE wouldnt even go after the perjury charge unless you were running a major RMT operation in the US, its simply a barrier to keep people out that might manipulate the system. Its just a means for them to save face if you run a scam and a way to keep the amount of 'compromised accounts' down to a minimum that they have to restore.

  5. #25
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    Re: Account Returned List

    yea, he may have an email from me giving him the ID info.
    but as it was say earlier, if SE only care about notarized paper as an identity check and not an action sign document.
    Then it should be ok i hope ><

  6. #26
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    Re: Account Returned List

    Bigmule - Kujata returned around 2/11. Missing only gil and a couple ah'able items and returned with a deleveled beastmaster DAMMITTT!

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    Re: Account Returned List

    Account stolen last week, in the long tedious process now.

  8. #28
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    Re: Account Returned List

    A linkshell member of mine, Chronic of Valefor, has been restored! All rare/ex seems to be intact.

    Like another poster above, he found that his BST was killed many times (25k xp missing). Based on the number of missing beastman seals and kindred seals it appears that RMT used his account on BST to do BCNM/KSNM (and died a lot).

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