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  1. #501
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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuya
    So i just read most of the thread and ugh, i don't understand why there are 17 pages.
    because of stupid replies like this

  2. #502
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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    I asked a question lol.

    Does anyone know what Tincture does yet?
    I never claimed it was the secret, yet the question remains unanswered. A simple "no" will suffice and I will move on.

  3. #503
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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    We won't, no, but I'm saying it's not the key to defeating it. Sure, any inew items and things will help - that is obvious, but they should by no means be necessary.

    edit: No, I don't think anyone knows what Tincture does yet. But look up what the word really means, i doubt it is anything amazing.

  4. #504
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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    Quote Originally Posted by Golum
    *Lightning Day*
    -Iws casting Blizzard 4 (@ 0:05...)
    I don't see a problem. Iws is obviously the token guy who nukes JoL with the element 10 people just said not to nuke with/CFHs on an add and thus the main NM when 10 people just said "DONT CFH!!11"/who asks "What/where/when/how" when 10 people already said the answer 2 seconds before. I thought every group had one person like that at some point or other :D

  5. #505
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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    Quote Originally Posted by Toralin
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuya
    So i just read most of the thread and ugh, i don't understand why there are 17 pages.
    because of stupid replies like this
    I don't know what to say if my reply is considered stupid as opposed to "lolmeleerdm" or "WHAT COLOUR IS MY 2HR".

  6. #506
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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    Here's what I can gather so far after watching just the NA video and wading through 14+ pages of mental anguish & masturbation..

    1) The video is not in any specific time order because it is multiple fights spliced together. The idea that you need to fight this mob for 2+ hours to be successful just doesn't make sense from what SE has said previously.

    2) There is a major clue in each and every segment of the video:

    - Killing a wtfload of Ru'Phuabos is the clue in the first segment. It's not completely clear that they must be killed by the same alliance fighting JoL or not, so for now let's assume that they don't. SE has already stated that killing the phuabos is tied to AV's regen

    - Second segment's already been figured out. AV is weak to the element that matches the current Vana day.

    - The third segment is in three parts and is clearly the most important. Each time AV uses a 2hr ability, it's immediately followed by members of the alliance throwing out 2HRs in response. In the first part though, AV uses Soul Voice, but one of the BRDs pops his late and right after AV then casts a Virelai. Does this mean you can lock its 2HRs by having your alliance members blow off all matching 2HRs? Might it be a matter of using even or odd numbers of 2HRs? Does this mean you can lock AV from casting Meteor? Could it be all of these possibilities?

    - The Fourth segment shows AV with bracelets, probably signifying that it is locked down, followed by it being defeated. This one seems like it's just to show AV being defeated.

    All of these ideas need testing of course.. it'll take some planning and hard work from all of us to figure this out for certain.

  7. #507
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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    Quote Originally Posted by stinkypoo
    Quote Originally Posted by Golum
    *Lightning Day*
    -Iws casting Blizzard 4 (@ 0:05...)
    I don't see a problem. Iws is obviously the token guy who nukes JoL with the element 10 people just said not to nuke with/CFHs on an add and thus the main NM when 10 people just said "DONT CFH!!11"/who asks "What/where/when/how" when 10 people already said the answer 2 seconds before. I thought every group had one person like that at some point or other :D
    ya, we have one in our ls lol, his name is...nm
    <3

  8. #508
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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    Quote Originally Posted by Motenten
    Q: So, simply put, how do you keep Absolute Virtue from using his two hours?
    A: His two hours are directly tied to the number of monsters remaining.

    Q: Do you mean the other Jailers? Do they need to be popped and killed during the Absolute Virtue Fight?
    A: No *laughs* common monsters, ‘aren for example

    Q: What about spell effects like Meteor and Comet?
    A: You can’t do a thing about that, if your skilled you might be able to avoid* it, but it will be extremely hard.
    Looking at how often AV used 2hrs in the video, and how many he used in a row, it seems more linked to how many 2hrs AV can use in a row, instead of which ones AV can use. Making it survivable to (now with video tip) slowly lock AV. At least that's how i read it.

  9. #509
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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    Holy shit. Churros are so awesome.
    http://images.jupiterimages.com/comm...0/23236077.jpg

  10. #510
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    Re: The long awaited AV video


  11. #511
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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    Anyone else think they released this the day before Valentines day just so they could piss off all the women in the world? "What are we doing on thursday sweetie?" ---> "I dont have time to go out, we are gonna play with AV for 10 hours!" SE > Everyone's Social Lives.

  12. #512
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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    Quote Originally Posted by Olo401
    Here's what I can gather so far after watching just the NA video and wading through 14+ pages of mental anguish & masturbation..

    1) The video is not in any specific time order because it is multiple fights spliced together. The idea that you need to fight this mob for 2+ hours to be successful just doesn't make sense from what SE has said previously.

    2) There is a major clue in each and every segment of the video:

    - Killing a wtfload of Ru'Phuabos is the clue in the first segment. It's not completely clear that they must be killed by the same alliance fighting JoL or not, so for now let's assume that they don't. SE has already stated that killing the phuabos is tied to AV's regen

    - Second segment's already been figured out. AV is weak to the element that matches the current Vana day.

    - The third segment is in three parts and is clearly the most important. Each time AV uses a 2hr ability, it's immediately followed by members of the alliance throwing out 2HRs in response. In the first part though, AV uses Soul Voice, but one of the BRDs pops his late and right after AV then casts a Virelai. Does this mean you can lock its 2HRs by having your alliance members blow off all matching 2HRs? Might it be a matter of using even or odd numbers of 2HRs? Does this mean you can lock AV from casting Meteor? Could it be all of these possibilities?

    - The Fourth segment shows AV with bracelets, probably signifying that it is locked down, followed by it being defeated. This one seems like it's just to show AV being defeated.

    All of these ideas need testing of course.. it'll take some planning and hard work from all of us to figure this out for certain.
    I think you're a little off.

    Q: So, simply put, how do you keep Absolute Virtue from using his two hours?
    A: His two hours are directly tied to the number of monsters remaining.

    Q: Do you mean the other Jailers? Do they need to be popped and killed during the Absolute Virtue Fight?
    A: No *laughs* common monsters, ‘aren for example

    Q: What about spell effects like Meteor and Comet?
    A: You can’t do a thing about that, if your skilled you might be able to avoid* it, but it will be extremely hard.
    Killing the mobs (not just phuabos!) around him is indeed the hint in the first segment. Not because of regen, but because they are tied to his 2 hours (somehow).

    Nuking with the corresponding day's element is not because he is weak to it, but because it reduces his regen ability.

  13. #513
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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    I'd love to be a GM today.

  14. #514
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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    really entertaining sitting in jeuno with Virtuous Saint title on right now lol

    Xxcloudssjsephirothxx examines you.
    Xxcloudssjsephirothxx : wut

  15. #515
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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    Quote Originally Posted by Leonock
    Demo LS. Gathering on Kujata.
    hi2u kumbai

  16. #516
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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    Hey I know 2 of those people!

  17. #517
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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    Yeah, me too, njf ;P

  18. #518
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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/4...3164658ud5.png

    JoL up. Here's to hoping for some AV.

  19. #519
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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    better not waste your 2hrs on it

  20. #520
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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    Quote Originally Posted by chapstick
    better not waste your 2hrs on it
    Not in their LS but yeah

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