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  1. #681
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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    Quote Originally Posted by Demosthenes11
    Quote Originally Posted by Similli
    About the two-hours:

    Possibly AV when popped/spawned has access to 1 two hour. After it uses that about 10 seconds (random guess on the time interval) later it either a. checks the attacking allainces players available two hours, or b. checks the immediate surrounding area for the players with two hours that are available. If some players two hour is available then AV is allowed to use another two hour. If no two hours are available (hence why everyone spams them once he uses one), then AV does not have access to any two hours.

    If it works like this there is obviously a question as to whether when he check for available two hours, is he only granted the specific two hours that are available (players haven't used) or does he just get to use any two hour again (it resets his two hour timer if someone has an un-used two hour)?

    I thought the problem with AV is even after getting rid of his two hours he can still nuke the fuck outta you with Aeroga, etc.?
    no, it has NOTHING to do with 2hours available jfc *vein pops in head*
    It uses fucking call wyvern. HOW MANY TIMES DO YOU BRING A DRG TO JoL
    Christ, thats not what I said, what I said is it pops with the ability to use a two hour. I didn't say that was based of the jobs surrounding it. What I said was that after it uses its first two hour it possibly checks the surrounding area and if some players two hours are available it, then it refreshes its own timer and uses another. Possibly I thought it could be based simply on the surrounding players jobs but thats porbably not plausible or we would have seen less of certain two hours.

    My point was that everyone burns their two hours so if ffxi checks the surrounding players 2-hour timers and they're all down then AV can't two hour of ANY job again.

  2. #682
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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    Good luck to all the groups working to turn this mutha out tonight.. If I hear of anything on Ramuh I'll pop in with some notes.

  3. #683
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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    3 tanks charmed.

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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    Did you guys kill the Aerns in JoL spawn? (While fighting JoL)

    Also no need to go Thunder > II > III > IV

  5. #685
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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    Quote Originally Posted by Similli
    Possibly I thought it could be based simply on the surrounding players jobs but thats porbably not plausible or we would have seen less of certain two hours.
    That could explain why, when those 5 DRK used BW, he did something to counter the effect like when I tried to hold with 2 PLD/nin, we were fine and he wasnt casting any spell, the moment I started getting hit and used Invicibile, he casted TornadoII immidiatly on me.

    He's afraid and if he scan any 2hrs up, he cast/do everything he can to defeat his opponents. As long as he trigger a 2hr and you use yours, he stop doing what he was doing and calm down.

    Theory here?

  6. #686
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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    Quote Originally Posted by Similli
    Quote Originally Posted by Demosthenes11
    Quote Originally Posted by Similli
    About the two-hours:

    Possibly AV when popped/spawned has access to 1 two hour. After it uses that about 10 seconds (random guess on the time interval) later it either a. checks the attacking allainces players available two hours, or b. checks the immediate surrounding area for the players with two hours that are available. If some players two hour is available then AV is allowed to use another two hour. If no two hours are available (hence why everyone spams them once he uses one), then AV does not have access to any two hours.

    If it works like this there is obviously a question as to whether when he check for available two hours, is he only granted the specific two hours that are available (players haven't used) or does he just get to use any two hour again (it resets his two hour timer if someone has an un-used two hour)?

    I thought the problem with AV is even after getting rid of his two hours he can still nuke the fuck outta you with Aeroga, etc.?
    no, it has NOTHING to do with 2hours available jfc *vein pops in head*
    It uses fucking call wyvern. HOW MANY TIMES DO YOU BRING A DRG TO JoL
    Christ, thats not what I said, what I said is it pops with the ability to use a two hour. I didn't say that was based of the jobs surrounding it. What I said was that after it uses its first two hour it possibly checks the surrounding area and if some players two hours are available it, then it refreshes its own timer and uses another. Possibly I thought it could be based simply on the surrounding players jobs but thats porbably not plausible or we would have seen less of certain two hours.

    My point was that everyone burns their two hours so if ffxi checks the surrounding players 2-hour timers and they're all down then AV can't two hour of ANY job again.
    Look, I'll give it to ya straight, before they tear you apart. This has been tried before. People have engaged him with no 2 hours up. SE's video showed multiple 2 hours going off, and yet he still 2 houred. There were camera people around that obviously didn't use 2 hours (WHM and BLM among them) and yet there was no manafont or benediction. In short, no matter what the status of the 2 hours of jobs around, AV has still 2 houred, even if they were all down.

    I haven't fought AV at all, and even I know this from reading all the AV threads. Now let the pros go back to their discussion and we can just follow along and learn something, k?

  7. #687
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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    Quote Originally Posted by tyven
    ohshi its gonna be a long night. how many kraken drks apathy have on deck?
    3 right now. 3 Aegis PLD as well. Army of BLM for {yawn}JoL fight. I assume people will change jobs if AV pops. We shall see.

  8. #688
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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    From what I can tell Apathy has about 6KC drks, some of them being the main tanks for the shell, so i guess a change is in order.

    Although when I started reading this thread (20min ago) they were @ 96%......its now @ 10%... If that gives you any idea on speed

    ~Kid

    edit: Kill and no pop ;; JoL #2 gogoogo

  9. #689
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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    maybe when he uses his 2hour, everyone uses yours within like 2secs, you get your 2hour back and block his for a short time?

    That might explain how they are using multiple 2hours.

  10. #690
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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    Locked Call Wyvern, haven't had them up for 15min or so

  11. #691
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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    by using call wvyern yourself, or some other random 2hr?

  12. #692
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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    Quote Originally Posted by shirak
    maybe when he uses his 2hour, everyone uses yours within like 2secs, you get your 2hour back and block his for a short time?

    That might explain how they are using multiple 2hours.
    Or did you miss the part where it's actually several different AV fights.

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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    Quote Originally Posted by Veyron
    Locked Call Wyvern, haven't had them up for 15min or so
    sooooo....

    it's working... ITS WORKING!!!!
    http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...Anakin_pod.jpg

    ?

  14. #694
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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    used soul voice after his soul voice, he used it again.

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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    No pop on Apathy's JoL

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    Re: The long awaited AV video


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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    Using Call Wyvern after AV does, still 0 Wynavs

    I lied lol, 2 seconds later.. Wynavs back!

  18. #698
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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    Just used Call wyvern.

  19. #699
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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    did call wyvern the moment it did it, and it just used it again

  20. #700
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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    Quote Originally Posted by Araius
    Quote Originally Posted by Gwynplaine
    Quote Originally Posted by Clynt
    well, we were gonna try the 2 hr when it 2 hr's thing; however, didn't have the right jobs in alliance, and started prematurely. i'm not even 100% sure what we're supposed to do, everyone 2 hr the second it 2 hrs? certain jobs 2 hr? just the job of the 2 hr? anyway, gonna raise up and see what we can do lol.. but i didn't read this whole thread and the video wasn't very clear on what to do

    edit: like i said, didn't have a blm in alliance for when it did manafont, etc. for whatever reason, i was gonna chainspell when it did but it didn't, gonna redo parties and see what we can do <_< lol
    You just spawned it and didn't make any plan what to do?
    Even though this doesn't even come close to the emotions I am feeling right now:

    http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y27...d-facepalm.jpg
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