The AV Videos: READ THE -OP- AND THREAD BEFORE POSTING!

[Rafike]

I think my biggest piss off about this whole BS video is that they edited it to shit. I'm pretty sure most people would prefer to see a un-edited version showing the chat/time/etc. legibly. This is basically a big wut?

Exactly how I feel.

[Karbuncle]

Have people really tested AV with having everyone in JoL alliance burn 2hours before he pops? Someone said people have popped him with no 2hours up but I don't ever remember reading anything about it. I know you don't like this theory Sirrobin but I think it has some merit.

Theory is same as Similli's, that if people around him have 2hours up, no matter what job, he can use a 2 hour (any). The video could have been super sneaky, and what they were actually trying to show us was that when AV used 2hours, all those people had 2 hours available to them. They showed it by spamming them all right after AV, from a few different angles - backline and frontline jobs (in the alliance). I know the SE guy said 2hours are related to common mobs "like aern" or something. I think maybe he was just hinting at us, without giving it away directly. Hey maybe what he meant was "something like an aern." It's far fetched but they're humanoid and have different jobs, like us.

It could explain how people have locked 2hours in the past after a long period of time. People on AV's hate list eventually just burned their 2hours up. Maybe when we managed to win that one time, the drks were the last ones with their 2hours up, and once we went full out zerg, there was no 2hours left to use. This could be why we thought taking him to a certain % locked him. This is a rare scenerio, which could explain why it just never happened all that often. I still think AV was glitched in some way, and that's why he lost his TP moves too (I think this happened). They did say they fixed monster actions in sea right? Don't remember if directly said AV.

It would be easy to test, even after testing out other stuff first and wiping. After he's lost all aggro just have solo people claim, either with or without 2hours up. I'm pretty sure all the times we ran him from spawn to updraft with lvl 1 jobs he'd use 2hr on claim right away or just melee.

We've already seen one test post video, and nothing was really noticed after spamming like they did in the video. So I don't think this is too far fetched.

This is actually a wonderfully thought out idea. Im curious to see if anyone can test this out! This could be hard to test though with all the Speculaters, they may be unwilling to blast off their two hours just because someone says too. But nonetheless this should be on the top of the list of the Theories we should try...
God i hope we find out AV's Secret in this Topic

[Bigsleezy]

AV @97%! lol

[Leonock]

96%

[Karbuncle]

AV @97%! lol

GoGo LowMelee 2hour burning!

[Cairthenn]

Meteor

[Therin]

For those of you concerned about AV "ready"-ing this 2HRs, the Al'Taieu .DAT contains text entries for each FFXI + RoZ job Two Hour. By this I mean, there are a series of dialog entries that simply say:

Absolute Virtue readies Mighty Strikes.
Absolute Virtue readies Hundred Fists.
Absolute Virtue readies Benediction.
Absolute Virtue readies Manafont.

...
Et al.

From what we can see in the video, there are certain consistencies:

- 7 or more Two Hours are being used each time Absolute Virtue uses one.
- Each time Absolute Virtue uses a Two Hour ability, there is at least one person who responds to it by using the same Two Hour (in most cases, if not all, multiple uses of the same Two Hour).

AV eventually dies in its Red Bracelet form. Before SE "fixed" AV, the Red Bracelets meant death to us, and since they did fix it, the Red Bracelets have never agian reappeared, but they are obviously significant. Perhaps the "correct" method of locking AV's ability use is to force it into Red Bracelet mode? So how do we do this?

Something that'll blow our minds...? Maybe the "secret" is that it's basically a lottery of sorts.
AV cycles through Two Hours until it "Readies" one of them. Hitting the correct Two Hour in response prevents AV from ushering in an apocalypse on your EXP bar.

Add it to the list of things to try I guess.

I really like this idea. Probably isn't the case, but I wish it was.

[Max™]

Meteor

That's my bet too, maybe the Blm's are quick on the manafont trigger and stop it.

[Suiram]

For those of you concerned about AV "ready"-ing this 2HRs, the Al'Taieu .DAT contains text entries for each FFXI + RoZ job Two Hour. By this I mean, there are a series of dialog entries that simply say:

Absolute Virtue readies Mighty Strikes.
Absolute Virtue readies Hundred Fists.
Absolute Virtue readies Benediction.
Absolute Virtue readies Manafont.

...
Et al.

Not quite, only for Mijin and Hundred Fists. The theory being that his mijin isn't real Mijin (wynavs blow up not him), and his HF allows him to continue casting spells unlike other mob's HFs so is probably actually programmed as dialog entry + increased attack speed rather than the normal HF trigger.

[jini]

Apathy AV no pop.


/grin

[Leonock]

All tanks dead. Wipe incoming.

[rex_garuda]

quitting, first to /tell me gets all my gear

[Aemora]

Meteor

That's my bet too, maybe the Blm's are quick on the manafont trigger and stop it.

One thing Blms are well versed in.

Stunning.

Should be pretty frickin' easy to "stun" a 2hr with a 2hr.

[Maguspk]

It's funny how many times people will repeat the same idea over and over.

Someone said it earlier and it's extremely relevant, the speculation after the video is worse than it was before the video. 2 hours = the new ebon panel, lol. Has anybody tried Demosthenes11's suggestion? It is a good one and actually is different than the people who are like "lol did you tryz to 2hr it when it 2hrd????" If his theory is tried, progress could be made.

[Kraig]

Apathy AV no pop.


/grin

So 0/2 for AV pop thus far?

[Aymee]

AV pops a 2hr:

1) Have at least 1 ally member (or person in the area? we can't see who's in the actual fighting group) pop the same 2hr.
2) ???
3) Profit

Why this might help: Whenever you counter an AV 2hr with one of your own, it locks the 2hr from being used by AV the remainder of the fight. His regen could theoretically decrease every time you lock a 2hr, or every time you match one the regen just stops for some length of time. My best guess.
Question: Would you need to match all 15 eventually, or can you just pick off the 2hrs that are pain (bene, chainspell)?
Issue: There has to be some important detail in the first zoom after the TornadoII casting, but I have no clue.
Confused: Where are the wyverns, and who is dealing with them?


New (old?) trends that are now totally hot because they were used:
DRG/NIN
Domarus
Taru panic emotes in casting macros
Token galka
Melee are allowed to TA tanks (versus SA ego feeding exclusively)
Tarus are supposed to be mages and not melee, dammit!


Anyway, SE gets a cookie for proving people on their staff are actually some semi-serious to serious players. This means they -might- actually care. A little.

Now, if they'd just make a lvl1 ally bubbly burnie video...

[Lordwafik]

quitting, first to /tell me gets all my gear

LOL


Dude it's in premature stages.

[Maguspk]

AV pops a 2hr:

1) Have at least 1 ally member (or person in the area? we can't see who's in the actual fighting group) pop the same 2hr.
2) ???
3) Profit

Why this might help: Whenever you counter an AV 2hr with one of your own, it locks the 2hr from being used by AV the remainder of the fight. His regen could theoretically decrease every time you lock a 2hr, or every time you match one the regen just stops for some length of time. My best guess.
Question: Would you need to match all 15 eventually, or can you just pick off the 2hrs that are pain (bene, chainspell)?
Issue: There has to be some important detail in the first zoom after the TornadoII casting, but I have no clue.
Confused: Where are the wyverns, and who is dealing with them?


New (old?) trends that are now totally hot because they were used:
DRG/NIN
Domarus
Taru panic emotes in casting macros
Token galka
Melee are allowed to TA tanks (versus SA ego feeding exclusively)
Tarus are supposed to be mages and not melee, dammit!


Anyway, SE gets a cookie for proving people on their staff are actually some semi-serious to serious players. This means they -might- actually care. A little.

Now, if they'd just make a lvl1 ally bubbly burnie video...

tl;dr
"Hi, I didn't read the thread, here's some reiterated ideas."

[Fou-Lu]

0/1 Ramuh
tryin again in 10

OSHI RHYME

[Bigsleezy]

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/b...213_204007.png didnt lock AV's 2hour lol