The AV Videos: READ THE -OP- AND THREAD BEFORE POSTING!

[Popsiclestick]

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/b...213_204007.png didnt lock AV's 2hour lol

My mule killed 2 wyverns n.n;

[Aymee]

"Hi, I didn't read the thread, here's some reiterated ideas."

Wow, I'm sorry that some of us don't have time to read 800 posts and have not been hitting F5 all day. Especially when 99% of the posts are worthless spam (such as your post, and this). God forbid a summary be made every 28 pages.

[ByeByeTasai]

Someone needs to fraps some of these attempts so we can get the full effect of whats going on and how you guys are progressing in the fight.

[Kayberry]

Someone needs to fraps some of these attempts so we can get the full effect of whats going on and how you guys are progressing in the fight.

Like I posted earlier, I'm going to Fraps the next successful AV pop on Ramuh, so we have a realistic version that doesn't cut when there's a meteor wipe or a charm wipe.

[Cairthenn]

Someone needs to fraps some of these attempts so we can get the full effect of whats going on and how you guys are progressing in the fight.

Now there's a brilliant idea.

[meeeeeep]

"Hi, I didn't read the thread, here's some reiterated ideas."

Wow, I'm sorry that some of us don't have time to read 800 posts and have not been hitting F5 all day. Especially when 99% of the posts are worthless spam (such as your post, and this). God forbid a summary be made every 28 pages.

Don't you thonk after 800 posts someone would've already thought "Oh maybe wen AV 2 hours we should counter with the same 2 hour"? Honestly, don't you?

[Kayos]

"Hi, I didn't read the thread, here's some reiterated ideas."

Wow, I'm sorry that some of us don't have time to read 800 posts and have not been hitting F5 all day. Especially when 99% of the posts are worthless spam (such as your post, and this). God forbid a summary be made every 28 pages.

Then why try to pass along theories withought bothering to read if they have been beaten to death?

[Sev]

Av had to kill me one last time i made a run for the sea lions den, he tornado II'd me right before warp xD

[Lilswitche]

Umm.. so..

I seriously don't get why everyone is trying to "lock" his 2hrs when, even in the English video it shows AV popping a 2hr right as he dies. To me, it would seem that SE was trying to say there's a way that we could maybe get 2hrs back to help with the fight. (No I'm not going to say pop ur 2hr when he does -.-)

[Therin]

Umm.. so..

I seriously don't get why everyone is trying to "lock" his 2hrs when, even in the English video it shows AV popping a 2hr right as he dies. To me, it would seem that SE was trying to say there's a way that we could maybe get 2hrs back to help with the fight. (No I'm not going to say pop ur 2hr when he does -.-)

There has to be a way to lock his two-hours, otherwise he simply can't be defeated. Sure, he used a two-hour in the video - but I'm sure if they let us see the chat log we'd be able to tell that it was something barely dangerous at all. Fact of the matter is, if you can't block Benediction and Manafont, you can't kill AV - it doesn't matter how many people, or how many Krakens, or how many relics you have.

[Jelto]

Sam 2h seems to be the one that caused the wipe each time. It does over 600 dmg three times in a row.

[Max™]

In the fights so far, noone has gotten a 2hr restored, the idea is at the extreme end of unlikely and giggle inducing.

The Vids shown had the 2hrs being matched, and certain 2hrs not going off, this might be the hint, it might be coincidence, but we didn't see Bene, Mana, Minij fired off in the SE fights.

If that is the hint, and using the matching 2hrs tames him some and prevents the others, or something like that, then it would likely be beatable with just a little luck in him not opening with Meteor spam.

If you think having access to 2hrs everytime AV does will help survive 2k dmg Meteor spam, or get over a 90k Bene, you should read up on AV fights more.

[Ramses]

Ok just read all 28 pages and my head hurts. Anybody else wondering why they were constantly casting enfeebs in the video that AV is immune to? I guess if it was just the rdms it could be to get a little hate, but I would think cure IV would accomplish that better and serve two purposes. The parts of the video that are significant are the zooms. They zoom in to tell us something. We know why they zoomed in for baraero and matching element to day. We don't know why they zoomed in for 2 hour use. So let's stop the wild theories. It's obvious we need to use 2 hours, we just need to know why.

[Lexa]

Ok just read all 28 pages and my head hurts. Anybody else wondering why they were constantly casting enfeebs in the video that AV is immune to? I guess if it was just the rdms it could be to get a little hate, but I would think cure IV would accomplish that better and serve two purposes. The parts of the video that are significant are the zooms. They zoom in to tell us something. We know why they zoomed in for baraero and matching element to day. We don't know why they zoomed in for 2 hour use. So let's stop the wild theories. It's obvious we need to use 2 hours, we just need to know why.

Enfeebs actually create a surprising amount of hate, and can be spammed for less MP than Cure IV.

[sunb1ind]

I don't know how all of their tanks stayed alive for longer than the 30-some odd seconds they showed in intervals....RDM tanks seem like a joke too even with the obvious alliance-wiping 2hrs locked.

This video is such bullshit and their hints are too. If a LS managed to successfully lock his 2hrs, then it will probably be by mistake or not even know why the fuck it worked

[Raineer]

Ok just read all 28 pages and my head hurts. Anybody else wondering why they were constantly casting enfeebs in the video that AV is immune to? I guess if it was just the rdms it could be to get a little hate, but I would think cure IV would accomplish that better and serve two purposes. The parts of the video that are significant are the zooms. They zoom in to tell us something. We know why they zoomed in for baraero and matching element to day. We don't know why they zoomed in for 2 hour use. So let's stop the wild theories. It's obvious we need to use 2 hours, we just need to know why.

Compare the MP cost of Cure IV and the MP cost (and associated hate) of something like Dispel and you'll have your answer.

[Aymee]

I seriously don't get why everyone is trying to "lock" his 2hrs when, even in the English video it shows AV popping a 2hr right as he dies. To me, it would seem that SE was trying to say there's a way that we could maybe get 2hrs back to help with the fight.

It's possible that he just didn't pop some of them over the course of the fight. Considering the randomness and the fact they hacked apart different videos, each fight was likely pretty different and some might have been missed. That, or matching 2hr just nulls it and wipes regen (and doesn't lock), in which case the fight might have been made short enough for the random odds to go up.
The obvious clue is the chat log stuff--the fact they showed the kill is just a minor detail in comparison. As for the 'people fighting' thread, it seems at this point that they haven't been able to kill any of his 2hrs yet, but they admit they haven't matched 2hrs either (something about not wanting a THF in the main ally... not surprising, lol).

Uh yea, so has anyone actually managed to match 2hr-for-2hr yet? It would require keeping questionable jobs around (lolDRG!) but hell that might lock smns

Enfeebs actually create a surprising amount of hate, and can be spammed for less MP than Cure IV.

It's interesting SE put in RDM tanks (or at least trying to), but I'm not sure whether I'm more surprised by that or what they geared the PLDs in if it's "supposed" to be RDMs tanking.

Then why try to pass along theories withought bothering to read if they have been beaten to death?

If you can honestly tell me that any person walking up to the thread from scratch should read 800+ posts before looking for any collected ideas, I'll gladly delete my post. Personally, my eyes started to hurt at about page 10.

[Tygiuu]

Ok just read all 28 pages and my head hurts. Anybody else wondering why they were constantly casting enfeebs in the video that AV is immune to? I guess if it was just the rdms it could be to get a little hate, but I would think cure IV would accomplish that better and serve two purposes. The parts of the video that are significant are the zooms. They zoom in to tell us something. We know why they zoomed in for baraero and matching element to day. We don't know why they zoomed in for 2 hour use. So let's stop the wild theories. It's obvious we need to use 2 hours, we just need to know why.

Well I guess it could be that casting those spells to the corresponding day have the effect to null his regen and maybe lower his resist as to let you cast debuffs. Though I'm not sure if that has been tried, but even if it was debuffed, I'd say that would make the fight a lot more doable.

Or it could just be for hate generation.

As for the 2HRs, I'm still baffled at what they're trying to show it does. But also, I noticed in the last part of the video sequence (Where AV is defeated) he casts no spells. Perhaps at some point he's unable to cast spells anymore, but I'm just saying what I noticed.

[Lexa]

Enfeebs actually create a surprising amount of hate, and can be spammed for less MP than Cure IV.

It's interesting SE put in RDM tanks (or at least trying to), but I'm not sure whether I'm more surprised by that or what they geared the PLDs in if it's "supposed" to be RDMs tanking.

Yeah, 'cause you know, tanks of different jobs can't share hate and work together. Plus, RDM tanks are extremely uncommon.

Also, who cares what they geared the PLDs in? If they were perfectly geared, everyone would bitch about unreasonable equipment demands for the fight. I'd rather see that it's possible to beat with earth staf/mbody PLDs, than get the impression I'd need full Askar/Aegis/Dring/whatever item to beat it.

[siknoz]

To save yourself time and headaches, when you start reading a post and it says "What I think..." stop right there and skip to the next post. Saves alot of time and headaches.

Any update on Apathy? >.>;