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[Eddard]

I'm just gonna throw this out there and see what you think..... continuing with this melee not weaponskilling AV. what if AV's 2hrs were somehow based around his tp gain rather over damage/hp spikes? would explain why the melee only went in at certain times rather than staying on AV the entire fight.

AV would get enough tp alone just from casting spells on him, thus maybe that is why you dont see weaponskills/melee'ing on him?

edit: and thus the comment by SE "you're not pacing yourselves correctly" w/e the saying was originally.

i dunno just a thought. flame me if you must

[Tempestwolf]

After talking w/ my ls about the ja thing, maybe you can use self targetting ones like sentinel, flee etc.. but things like sheild bash / provoke would be out of the question.

imma stick w/ thinking weaponskills (lack of) is key.

Maybe the clips were just short and people didn't have TP or timers were down?

Yeah, i wouldn't have brought this up except when the sam 2 houred after AV did, he didn't hit a ws at all.. for a good 5s or so.. he just 2 houred, and did nothing.. thats what got my attention

Hmm maybe if you 2hr and do something with said two hour he retorts in kind?

I.E. Manafont to lock, and then nuke and he decides Meteor is a nice spell.

[psnsonixx]

not sure and i don't want to speculate any further without proof.. I think i've stumbled on something.. my ls will try friday.. hopefully another ls can try before then.. but unfortunately if I skip going to my womans house for AV.. well.... we all know how that ends going to bed.. 3:30am and im done obsessing over this video. good luck!

[Eander]

I heard something about a linkshell on Phoenix beating it...don't flame this post I just want to confirm if this is true or not.

Oh please be talking about the Feather prank that people pulled years ago.

[Demonsparta]

I heard something about a linkshell on Phoenix beating it...don't flame this post I just want to confirm if this is true or not.

Oh please be talking about the Feather prank that people pulled years ago.

I have no idea, some people were saying that someone named Faux got N.Sash. No idea if it's true but I figured if it was it would probably be posted by now, so I'm guessing it's a false claim.

[Eander]

I heard something about a linkshell on Phoenix beating it...don't flame this post I just want to confirm if this is true or not.

Oh please be talking about the Feather prank that people pulled years ago.

I have no idea, some people were saying that someone named Faux got N.Sash. No idea if it's true but I figured if it was it would probably be posted by now, so I'm guessing it's a false claim.

I could be completely wrong, but I'm pretty sure Faux server shifted back when the capability was first added. But, if there's any truth to it, it'll show up on http://www.zaibatsuls.com/ I'm sure.

[Izzy]

kevin has a n.sash

No.

[Max™]

Rofl@Pervert

This AV vid has brought out the bastard in you Wafik, and I like it.

[Otaku]

Haven't seen it posted, but I noticed that a Thf/Whm cast diaga on the Wynavs shortly after they were summoned and Fleed. Aside from the 2 hours already mentioned being spammed, this part seems to have been overlooked in the thread (that I noticed, it's becoming a long damned thread).

So the video tells us the Wynavs NEED to be kited away from him. Possibly this in combination with other theories listed in the thread are key.

I noticed immediately what others had noticed also, that there were no Aerns anywhere near the fight. I don't, however, think this is part of AV's weakness, as theoreticized. I'm pretty sure SE would have specifically shown a PT outside the alliance dealing with the Aerns if they were a crucial part of their strat.

[BerenTebogo]

Haven't seen it posted, but I noticed that a Thf/Whm cast diaga on the Wynavs shortly after they were summoned and Fleed. Aside from the 2 hours already mentioned being spammed, this part seems to have been overlooked in the thread (that I noticed, it's becoming a long damned thread).

So the video tells us the Wynavs NEED to be kited away from him. Possibly this in combination with other theories listed in the thread are key.

I noticed immediately what others had noticed also, that there were no Aerns anywhere near the fight. I don't, however, think this is part of AV's weakness, as theoreticized. I'm pretty sure SE would have specifically shown a PT outside the alliance dealing with the Aerns if they were a crucial part of their strat.

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[Otaku]

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A valid and productive response.

[BerenTebogo]

Haven't seen it posted, but

Haven't seen it posted, but

Haven't seen it posted, but

If somehow you didn't see what you posted already in this thread, I wouldn't go driving today, you're likely to not see the bridge I hope you drive off of.

[Chreman]

10/10 on the text zoom

Any way we could condense the good ideas in this thread in some kind of table and check off that which has been tried and that which hasn't with video proof?

[Rya]

Someone mentioned in an earlier post that whilst holding AV they popped Invincible and AV proceeded to use Manafont. I do remember engaging AV with a Monk in party, the monk used 100fists and shorty after AV used charm, does AV generaly counter a 2 hour with one of its own ?

Can anyone provide any insight on this based upon previous experiece or would someone be willing to test it (If it isnt tested by the time i next see AV i will, but im honestly not expecting to see it soon)

This may not be relevant to locking anything but imo it would be an interesting piece of information.

[Reality]

If somehow you didn't see what you posted already in this thread, I wouldn't go driving today, you're likely to not see the bridge I hope you drive off of.

jesus fucking christ dude.

[BerenTebogo]

It's been 24 hours since this top was posted, and for at least 20 I think I've been watching people post without reading jack shit in the thread.

Give me a gun, lol.

[Otaku]

Perhaps an edit of the original post that lists compiled information / somewhat viable theories would help avoid redundancy? There's a reason people miss things on threads.. it's because they're skimming and they have their idiot filters set too high.

*Edit*
Also, you know it's going to happen. The redundant posting. Going out of your way to be an ass about it on every possible occasion MUST be the answer, it's worked so well thus far.

[Reality]

what's the current popular theory to test now, keep wynavs kited and alive while trying to lock 2 hours?

[Chreman]

How about a new topic altogether? This entire thread is made up of 5% original ideas and 95% echo

[BerenTebogo]

I know, of all people, coming from me this is going to seem like just a flame, but this is in fact the best summary of the thread to date, period.

EVERYTHING, AND I MEAN EVERYTHING YOU CAN THINK OF HAS BEEN DISCUSSED, AND THEN TRIED, BY AT LEAST 5 SEPARATE LINKSHELLS ACROSS AT LEAST 5 SERVERS.

SE HAS FUCKED UP, ONCE AGAIN, NOTHING IS NEW, NOR ORIGINAL, UNLESS YOU ARE CURRENTLY LOOKING AV DEAD IN THE FACE AND HE ISN'T USING 2 HOURS, KINDLY REFRAIN FROM POSTING.

THANK YOU FOR STOPPING BY, THERE WILL BE AT THE DOOR.

- The collective BG community