The AV Videos: READ THE -OP- AND THREAD BEFORE POSTING!

[BerenTebogo]

I love you ryko, here's some

[Ryko]

Anyway Locke, I see where you're going with it but I don't see why SE would emphasize the shit out of disabling the regen with proper day nukes if we're not supposed to hurt the thing. Maybe disabling the regen changes a mode in it, opens it to being locked or something. I honestly am just throwing out bullshit at this point because I couldn't really care less if AV ever gets killed again, got my title so fuck it. I'm of the mind that the video didn't really change shit but I guess it can't hurt.

[Thorny]

They melee with earth staves on thundersday and it can't possibly be a coincidence so the staves strong to the day must make it give your 2hrs back if you use them when AV does!

[Charismatic]

Can we get a thread lock?

[Araius]

My question is, if you've abandoned all hope and have no other contribution other than to flame people still trying other ideas, why would you still visit an AV thread? You've given up, great, save your xp, I can respect that. Now could you respect the people still willing to attempt to contribute, or would that be asking too much?

Trust me, if I had a Sea LS, I'd be out there with the others. But for now, brainstorming is about the only contribution a lot of us can make. Besides the fact I'm at work and FFXI is obviously out of the question :ashira:

I'm down with the thread lock too, honestly. Maybe the rehashed "shit is unkillable, you fucks are wasting your xp/time" crap could stay out of a different one. I understand being frustrated, but take your shit up with SE (lol) or someone who actually wants to hear it.

[Ryko]

Your sitting there asking that question means you didn't read a word he said.

[BerenTebogo]

I like where you completely missed the point, we want new ideas, we just want new substantiated ideas, or some shit that isn't being repeated for the 20th fucking time.

Sounds like you have the same reading comprehension as these other winners, good job.

[Charismatic]

Just so you know, before the flaming starts Araius.
My asking for a thread lock was in response to Thorny's post, not Sath or Ryko's.

Sath at the very least is interested in seeing AV go down, and is interested in theories, just not seeing the same shit over and over and over.

Ryko already said he doesn't care.


EDIT: Too late, Sath already started.

[Otaku]

Did anyone notice the taru rdm doing /joy motion at AV? Therein lies the answer. Who's the savant now?!

In before LOCK >.>

[Araius]

My asking for a thread lock was in response to Thorny's post, not Sath or Ryko's.

Yeah, I'd be down with that too, lol.

Guess I missed something between pages 33-36, oops Just seemed like Sath was doing the "its hopeless, shut the fuck up, SE is a bunch of morons" thing again. If that's not the case, then cool. Back to the drawing board I go

[Aikar]

Haven't seen it posted, but I noticed that a Thf/Whm cast diaga on the Wynavs shortly after they were summoned and Fleed. Aside from the 2 hours already mentioned being spammed, this part seems to have been overlooked in the thread (that I noticed, it's becoming a long damned thread).

So the video tells us the Wynavs NEED to be kited away from him. Possibly this in combination with other theories listed in the thread are key.

I noticed immediately what others had noticed also, that there were no Aerns anywhere near the fight. I don't, however, think this is part of AV's weakness, as theoreticized. I'm pretty sure SE would have specifically shown a PT outside the alliance dealing with the Aerns if they were a crucial part of their strat.

I guess you missed the part where it SOMEHOW _IS_ officially tied to the weakness.

And everyone needs to fucking watch the video and STOP TRYING TO "LOCK" THE 2HOURS!

Your not fucking going to lock them, as clearly the last second of the video shows AV using a 2hour...

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Now, I think SE is laughing at us and did this on Atomos with the march patch, and this new 2hr weakness is coming with the march patch. Did SE not say they were going to give us a way to enfeeble in the patch?... The 2hr weakness likely isnt in our game yet... (And I fucking read 37 pages of this thread, if its been said it wasn't very stressed so eat my fucking dick ;P)

[Lockecole7]

Anyway Locke, I see where you're going with it but I don't see why SE would emphasize the shit out of disabling the regen with proper day nukes if we're not supposed to hurt the thing. Maybe disabling the regen changes a mode in it, opens it to being locked or something. I honestly am just throwing out bullshit at this point because I couldn't really care less if AV ever gets killed again, got my title so fuck it. I'm of the mind that the video didn't really change shit but I guess it can't hurt.

I don't mean not hurt him, but how else do you keep a community that is TP zerging and Kraken DRK zerging every mob from doing just that to their prized unkillable monster? It's been shown that he will retaliate if you attempt to kill him too quick (or retaliate to the Soul Eater/Blood Weapon JA) with Invincible, so I think it's obvious SE is trying to steer us down a certain path, I just don't think a lot of us are willing to accept it.

Basically they want us to kill it like JPs used to kill Nidhoggs back in the day. 6 HOUR NIDHOGGS!
We just need to get that LS on your server that used to take 6 hours to kill Tiamat and throw them up against your AV. I guarantee they'll kill him slow enough. (You know who you are Siren people!)

[Suiram]

Your not fucking going to lock them, as clearly the last second of the video shows AV using a 2hour...

Perhaps that wasn't a 2H but rather an AOE EARTH MOVE

[Araius]

Did SE not say they were going to give us a way to enfeeble in the patch?...

orly? :bagel:

I hadn't heard of that, but honestly if that's true...I'm willing to hang it up until March...it's not -that- far away

edit: I'd look it up myself, but I'm at work and BG and BGWiki are about the only things FF-related that aren't websense'd (now you know how to get rid of me, if you want a more creative way than banstick)

[Ryko]

Basically they want us to kill it like JPs used to kill Nidhoggs back in the day. 6 HOUR NIDHOGGS!
We just need to get that LS on your server that used to take 6 hours to kill Tiamat and throw them up against your AV. I guarantee they'll kill him slow enough. (You know who you are Siren people!)

Brb need to set up a dart board to pick one.

[yrpaine]

*waits for the ninja edit in the march update that makes AV work like the video does*

cuz SE seems to like ninja edits on AV.

[Otaku]

Just a curiosity:

Why did Square make this mob so differently that it apparently needs to be fought at a much slower pace, when they've trained us to kill most other NMs quickly by implementing the 1hr Hulk patch?

[Ryko]

Just a curiosity:

Why did Square make this mob so differently that it apparently needs to be fought at a much slower pace, when they've trained us to kill most other NMs quickly by implementing the 1hr Hulk patch?

Because there's a huge difference between perpetually botted mobs that I can honestly hold by myself longer/better than some full fucking parties (and were often held for th esole purpose of perpetuating a monopoly through time zones) and a walking talking wipe typhoon that you can pop at your leisure?

[Not Kuno]

Sath wins the prize for keeping the noobs down overnight.

[Rocl]

Your not fucking going to lock them, as clearly the last second of the video shows AV using a 2hour...

Perhaps that wasn't a 2H but rather an AOE EARTH MOVE

BECAUSE THEY USED EARTH STAVES

HOLY SHIT IT ALL MAKES SENSE