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  1. #161
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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    is it normal for it to say AV readies chainspell and then AV uses chainspell?

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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    Yeah, though the obscurity of how it may work could be key there too.

    When you see AV fire Call Wyvern, do you get the urge to Call Wyvern too? He pops Bene, so you do too? The only way I could see this randomly occuring would be if he popped Chainspell and got Chainspell Stunned, but doesn't he hella resist stun, making that unlikely too.

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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    Hmm, no one mentioned that at all and I didn't realize it until now.. is/has AV ever been stunnable (I seem to remember it wasn't the last time we messed with it, but not 100% sure)? Would that prove to be any help..?

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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    It's not.

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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryko
    Quote Originally Posted by Khajit
    The domaruuuu sam didn't even use Sata right. Doesn't he know you're supposed to sneak attack crap from BEHIND it?
    The next few days are gonna be interesting at least. I never thought i'd see a day when somone might go " we need a thf to take down AV get off of your brd!"
    You'd want a thief for the drops anyway.
    "Hit it once for the TH debuff and go on another job unless it resets"

  6. #166
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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    I vaguely recall hearing someone trying to CSStun his Meteor/Aeroga spam and just getting a shit ton of hate/being raped inside out and backwards for it.

    Was a long time ago though since I really heard much more than "we threw bodies at it til we got sick of it and let him depop."

  7. #167
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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    The AV in their video uses all 2hrs normally, but it readies Chain spell.. wtf?

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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    Quote Originally Posted by Khajit
    The domaruuuu sam didn't even use Sata right. Doesn't he know you're supposed to sneak attack crap from BEHIND it?
    The next few days are gonna be interesting at least. I never thought i'd see a day when somone might go " we need a thf to take down AV get off of your brd!"
    He only used TA.

    The loldrk used SATA Catastrophe though facing AV head on.

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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryko
    I'm going with the emphasis thing, I think in maybe the hundreds of times people have gotten their fucking cornholes inverted by AV someone would have mentioned that their 2 hour came back randomly during the mayhem.
    Quote Originally Posted by Max™
    I vaguely recall hearing someone trying to CS/Stun his Meteor/Aeroga spam and just getting a shit ton of hate/being raped inside out and backwards for it.

    Was a long time ago though since I really heard much more than "we threw bodies at it til we got sick of it and let him depop."
    After watching the AV thread for a couple months now, I don't recall anyone trying to mass 2 hour at the exact same time as him. Any mention of 2 houring is usually preceeded by "After he X, and X, and X 2 houred".

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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    I checked the German Video.

    They show Soulvoice, Astral Flow, Meiko Seyushi, all countered with 2 HRs. But fom MS it isn't shown if it goes of from AV or not. Astral Flow was definitly blocked (even thou its almost instant).

    Also they nuke with the elemental spells tier 1 2 3 and 4 according to the day.

    I also guess, you have to encounter the 2 HR with the corresponding 2HR from the job. Only hard things might be Benediciton and Mijin Gakure. Interesting would be, if 2 HRs occure in a certain order, so you can plan your damage until after Benediciton (which I guess you cannot counter).

    All Videos have identical scenes where no chat log is shown (just noticed in German version the death scene is mirrored).

    Atm, I think we only have 2 ways to reset 2 HRs. One is the feather from the mountain climbing quest, the other one is a COR. Due to the fact, there was no COR when AV was released I don't think COR is needed. Maybe AV has something like 2 HR reset for people in alliance if an 2HR is successfully blocked (needs testing) or SE just cheated, lol.

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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    Quote Originally Posted by bsphil
    Quote Originally Posted by Khajit
    The domaruuuu sam didn't even use Sata right. Doesn't he know you're supposed to sneak attack crap from BEHIND it?
    The next few days are gonna be interesting at least. I never thought i'd see a day when somone might go " we need a thf to take down AV get off of your brd!"
    He only used TA.

    The loldrk used SATA Catastrophe though facing AV head on.
    3:59 in the vid mr domaru sam uses sneak attack,

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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    Quote Originally Posted by Khajit
    Quote Originally Posted by bsphil
    Quote Originally Posted by Khajit
    The domaruuuu sam didn't even use Sata right. Doesn't he know you're supposed to sneak attack crap from BEHIND it?
    The next few days are gonna be interesting at least. I never thought i'd see a day when somone might go " we need a thf to take down AV get off of your brd!"
    He only used TA.

    The loldrk used SATA Catastrophe though facing AV head on.
    3:59 in the vid mr domaru sam uses sneak attack,

    uses sa and ta...i assume they're in same macro what dif does it make lol

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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    Quote Originally Posted by Silpha
    I CANT SEE THE VID Q_Q

    /burncomputer

    gogo someone youtube it D:
    Your wish is my command

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VImVbswEMTs

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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    What this video fails to show is the people at the Ebon Panels.

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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    Quote Originally Posted by Khajit
    Quote Originally Posted by bsphil
    Quote Originally Posted by Khajit
    The domaruuuu sam didn't even use Sata right. Doesn't he know you're supposed to sneak attack crap from BEHIND it?
    The next few days are gonna be interesting at least. I never thought i'd see a day when somone might go " we need a thf to take down AV get off of your brd!"
    He only used TA.

    The loldrk used SATA Catastrophe though facing AV head on.
    3:59 in the vid mr domaru sam uses sneak attack,
    both did anyway. Lazyness brings such fail yeah.



    Quote Originally Posted by Apelila
    After watching the AV thread for a couple months now, I don't recall anyone trying to mass 2 hour at the exact same time as him. Any mention of 2 houring is usually preceeded by "After he X, and X, and X 2 houred".
    3 days ago we spoke with friends about this not yet released video around a beer and i was saying to them: "As everything else before, it will be something utterly retarded that still peoples didnt really push that theory far enough".
    If it's really as simple as:
    -keep finger on 2hour macro
    -see dust cloud
    -???
    -profit
    i'ma laugh outta my ass :D

    edit: thx for those making the video watchable by me; <3 you long time~

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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    The Sam kills it with a Yokodama Gekko, SA > TA > From the side behind the Elvaan F Rdm > that Aern stun move > Gekko > Death.

    Whether the SA worked on test server is another question.

    Real question is, Dorp?

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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    Quote Originally Posted by Velocy
    I checked the German Video.

    They show Soulvoice, Astral Flow, Meiko Seyushi, all countered with 2 HRs. But fom MS it isn't shown if it goes of from AV or not. Astral Flow was definitly blocked (even thou its almost instant).
    You can't tell if Astral Flow was blocked or not since the wyverns weren't around. AV's (and JoL's) Astral Flow gives the pets 300% TP, but in the video they are either kited off or dead. Meikyo Suishi as I said above does in fact go off. You see him readying Medusa Javelin right away, before the chat log of the 2H is displayed (since the chat message apparently doesn't display until the dust animation completes). Then a few seconds later as it fades to black, if you slow the video down and look carefully the last line that scrolls up is him readying Medusa Javelin again, you have to look carefully because only the top half of the chatlog message displays before it cuts to the next scene.

    Edit: I feel like someone analyzing the Zapruder film on a PBS special about the JFK assassination or something lol

  18. #178
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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    Quote Originally Posted by Max™
    Real question is, Dorp?
    Probably a light crystal, and 76 xp.

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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    I am very sceptical that this is a real one attempt fight. The timeline jumping all over the place from Iceday > Thundersday > Iceday could indicate at least a 6-7hr fight. Also the fact that half of the time they /clock off to not show the day really bugs me and makes me suspicious they are trying to hide the fact that some of this fight took part on other game days. Damage being filtered, /names off at some sections and the fact the watcher never targets AV's health bar makes me 100% sure they are trying to hide something. Chances are this is bits and pieces from multiple attempts and they did and they are just showing highlights from them to give a clue of what they did.

    I don't think AV resets your 2hrs. I think this was a stupidly long fight and 2hrs reset naturally. 4min video and only 90secs of AV tells us virtually nothing other than MAYBE using your 2hr helps lock AV.

    Edit: lol something I thought off which would be hilarious is that maybe it was CFH since it was never targetted the whole fight to see it's health and they had an ass load of BLMs out of camera view nuking it. They had damage filtered and only had alliance people actions filters on. Plus you never saw the drop pool :D

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    Re: The long awaited AV video

    Quote Originally Posted by Alibeemac
    I am very sceptical that this is a real one attempt fight. The timeline jumping all over the place from Iceday > Thundersday > Iceday could indicate at least a 6-7hr fight. Also the fact that half of the time they /clock off to not show the day really bugs me and makes me suspicious they are trying to hide the fact that some of this fight took part on other game days. Damage being filtered, /names off at some sections and the fact the watcher never targets AV's health bar makes me 100% sure they are trying to hide something. Chances are this is bits and pieces from multiple attempts and they did and they are just showing highlights from them to give a clue of what they did.

    I don't think AV resets your 2hrs. I think this was a stupidly long fight and 2hrs reset naturally. 4min video and only 90secs of AV tells us virtually nothing other than MAYBE using your 2hr helps lock AV.
    At least we have something to work with now and people can't say go check the Ebon panels anymore.

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